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That must have been so comforting for you flower.

Once you were able to cope with your loss, it is much easier for him to make you aware of his continued presence around you. It is our grief that erects a barrier.

I don't say that you ever get over the loss of a partner, but time makes it easier to accept that you had to be left behind - for whatever reason.... and you are able to continue with your life, as you should do. He will always be a part of that life, even if you should meet someone else along the way....he may even engineer such a meeting - as happened to me, and when your time comes to rejoin him, then you will take up where you left off here.

In your quiet moments he will be able to show just how close he is to you; you may feel a breeze wafting around you, or find something moved within the home.Hear a whisper, or have a thought come into your head that you know did not originate with you.

The spirit world is all around us, in the same space that we inhabit, but existing on a much finer vibration than we need with our heavy earthly bodies. When conditions allow, the veil thins a little and that is when the communication is made.

XX

Edited to say:
That on passing into those realms, we revert to the prime of our life. Babies and children grow to theirs and older people go back to that time when they were in their prime.
When they return through a medium, they show themselves as the time they passed -for recognition purposes only.

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That is so comforting,Freda. There is nothing more final than death. From an early age I was brought up to believe in life after death and thank goodness,I was. I feel sorry for people who don't believe in Spiritualism. Luckily my hubby was brought up the same way, as his mother was a medium. He always promised me he would find a way to contact me which he has on several occasions.
Thank you.

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hi s.h.owl
like you i lost my husband very sudden,without warning,its 18 months now..im doing very well..i feel him around me .messing with my hair...it was a hard time getting thru it..now i accept it hes not coming back..i think things are there and turn my head quick to see..then nothing...
i know hes always around us..

kath[sm=FIFangel.gif]

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That on passing into those realms, we revert to the prime of our life. Babies and children grow to theirs and older people go back to that time when they were in their prime.

IMHO that is not the case as we have no physical body in the spirit world at all.

When they return through a medium, they show themselves as the time they passed -for recognition purposes only.

That I can accept.

Once you were able to cope with your loss, it is much easier for him to make you aware of his continued presence around you. It is our grief that erects a barrier. I don't say that you ever get over the loss of a partner, but time makes it easier to accept that you had to be left behind - for whatever reason.... and you are able to continue with your life, as you should do. He will always be a part of that life, even if you should meet someone else along the way....he may even engineer such a meeting - as happened to me

Well put no problems with that part at all.

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Hi Angelroses,nice to hear from you. Yes,it is very hard when they first pass,feel as if part of you have gone with them. Like you,I am settling down now and anxious to get on with life.
I visited Australia recently and visited the Memorial shrine in Melbourne (hubby was in the Oz army). As I was walking around,I was conscious of a figure in army uniform walking by my side.
It was nice to know that he decided to come with me!

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IMHO that is not the case as we have no physical body in the spirit world at all.

So, how do you explain when you see spirit with your physical eyes....you see the complete body ? Of course they don't have a 'physical' body as such but the spirit one still exists. A bit like how it was portrayed in the film - Ghost - I would imagine.

How I view it is this:
Their world is on a parallel to ours - and as the spirit/soul is supposed to be identical to the physical body, this is what exists in the spirit world. This is how at a materialisation seance, they are able to show themselves as they used to be...by bringing their own lights with them.

XX

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How I view it is this:
Their world is on a parallel to ours - and as the spirit/soul is supposed to be identical to the physical body, this is what exists in the spirit world. This is how at a materialisation seance, they are able to show themselves as they used to be...by bringing their own lights with them.

IMO the spirit is pure energy and it is this that is reincarnated intoa new life. Whilst I understand and have seen that they canmaterialisethemselves in human form, ittakes a vast amount of energy to do this. The reason for there not being many materialisations today IMO is because of the peripheral energies that abound today. That is one reason why Colin would use the ark, thus closing against those energies.
It is interesting that you mention their own lights, as when I am working I see that light over the person who I am going to, (as do many mediums). It is only when I make that link that I see the spirit take on a physical form. Also it is interesting to note that many psychic artists now draw energy signatures of spiritual beings.

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ORIGINAL: Healistic

That on passing into those realms, we revert to the prime of our life. Babies and children grow to theirs and older people go back to that time when they were in their prime.

IMHO that is not the case as we have no physical body in the spirit world at all.

Gotta disagree with this Healistic. EVENTUALLY we'll have no 'body' - in the sense that we have one now -but at the next level (Astral or whatever youwant to name it)we still manifest in a very similar way ie we live in a body which is recognisable as such but without the constraints of the physical ie no illness, old-age effects etc This comes from many Spiritualist teachings - if you come from a different direction then these details may be missing.

Babies are created only in the physical. Those which pass on 'early', that is before maturing into adulthood, will continue to grow to maturity. Babies are not produced in other than physical spheres (either our own or similar ones) This is an aspect rarely mentioned. Interesting point to ponder perhaps???

Just a thought.......

mac

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ORIGINAL: silverhoodedowl

I lost my husband just over a year ago and have had many signs that he is close. The smell of pipe smoke,the smell of the roses and also a very vivid dream of him recently. I feel my hair being touched.
I visited a medium and was told he is now looking like he did when he was young,even to having his hair back and it's original colour!

Brilliant - I love the hair bit 'cos it's what I've promised myself when I pass over!!!! No kidding.

I'm so glad that your husband is able to draw so close to you. There are many - spiritually aware or not - who have no notion that this can, and does, occur. Enjoy!!

mac

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but at the next level (Astral or whatever youwant to name it)we still manifest in a very similar way ie we live in a body which is recognisable as such but without the constraints of the physical ie no illness, old-age effects etc This comes from many Spiritualist teachings - if you come from a different direction then these details may be missing.

Hi I will have to disagree on this I have been a spiritualist medium since 1962 and IMHO nothing of what you say is correct.
Mind you that is my opinion based on what I have learned and channelled over the years and still am.

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ORIGINAL: Healistic

but at the next level (Astral or whatever youwant to name it)we still manifest in a very similar way ie we live in a body which is recognisable as such but without the constraints of the physical ie no illness, old-age effects etc This comes from many Spiritualist teachings - if you come from a different direction then these details may be missing.

Hi I will have to disagree on this I have been a spiritualist medium since 1962 and IMHO nothing of what you say is correct.
Mind you that is my opinion based on what I have learned and channelled over the years and still am.

Interesting but none of what I have said is my personal opinion.

I am using the general teachings (not verbatim) of Silver Birch (and other communicators) whose teachings - I would have thought - underpin Spiritualist philosophy. Have I misunderstood them all these years?

What are your sources which make you disagree?

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Those which pass on 'early', that is before maturing into adulthood, will continue to grow to maturity.

Hi Mac,

That is what happened to my son who was born premature, and only lived for 36 hours.
The first time he came back he came as a baby, Mother's Day nine years later.
Then later on I had a psychic portrait done at Stansted with Coral Polge, and she said that he was showing himself to her as he would have been at about 17.
I had five children in all with him, and it had always bothered me that I had never seen him growing up like the others. Two years after the Stansted portrait, another medium called Hayden Clarke demonstrated at our Church, and I had another one done for me.

In the first one, he looked like my eldest daughter's youngest son...and in the second one like the eldest son. It was ages before I realised that he was actually showing me stages of him 'growing up'. ( Being aware of my thoughts on the matter.);)

The one Coral did of my Gran, she looked to be in her early 30's.

XX

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ORIGINAL: freda

Those which pass on 'early', that is before maturing into adulthood, will continue to grow to maturity.

Hi Mac,

That is what happened to my son who was born premature, and only lived for 36 hours.
The first time he came back he came as a baby, Mother's Day nine years later.
Then later on I had a psychic portrait done at Stansted with Coral Polge, and she said that he was showing himself to her as he would have been at about 17.
I had five children in all with him, and it had always bothered me that I had never seen him growing up like the others. Two years after the Stansted portrait, another medium called Hayden Clarke demonstrated at our Church, and I had another one done for me.

In the first one, he looked like my eldest daughter's youngest son...and in the second one like the eldest son. It was ages before I realised that he was actually showing me stages of him 'growing up'. ( Being aware of my thoughts on the matter.);)

The one Coral did of my Gran, she looked to be in her early 30's.

XX

Ayup Freda

We're both from the same camp so hold very similar persuasions but mine (like yours I guess?) are not from any personally held position. My understanding comes about from what I have learned - and what makes sense to me - from all the spirit-side teachers and from all the ordinary communicators who tell the same story. I remain to be convinced that they have it all wrong...

Perhaps where the situation is more complicated is when a child/baby is unable to live in this world (by choice or whatever) but the spirit entity is one which is highly evolved yet has had no experience of physical life and hence has had no physical body. This is the situation, I have been told, which applies in the situation of my own son.

Keith

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Have I misunderstood them all these years?

IMHO YES

Silver birch said "I guided him to his first meeting. I helped to bring him to his first circle. And there, in the power provided, I made my first contact - so crude, so trivial, but from my point of view so important - and I uttered my first expression in the world of matter through another’s organism".

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ORIGINAL: Healistic

Have I misunderstood them all these years?

IMHO YES

Silver birch said "I guided him to his first meeting. I helped to bring him to his first circle. And there, in the power provided, I made my first contact - so crude, so trivial, but from my point of view so important - and I uttered my first expression in the world of matter through another's organism".

I assume the above quotation is taken from Siver Birch's account of 'his' first contact with medium Maurice Barbanell but I don't understand how it is a response to my question (also quoted)...

I would welcome an explanation and also a reply to the other points I raised in the earlier posting.

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So many interesting opinions! The medium I go to for private readings sees my hubby as a bright light,also last time I visited him,he saw him as a beautiful golden orb. But he has also described hubby as he looked before he passed. He has given several descriptions as Ken looked through various stages in his life. I was also told he was with me during his passing ( he died in hospital just before I got there) and exactly what I did when I arrived at the hosp.

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I assume the above quotation is taken from Siver Birch's account of 'his' first contact with medium Maurice Barbanell but I don't understand how it is a response to my question (also quoted)...

Silver birch left the spirit world of engergy to return to the material earth plane.

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So many interesting opinions! The medium I go to for private readings sees my hubby as a bright light,also last time I visited him,he saw him as a beautiful golden orb. But he has also described hubby as he looked before he passed. He has given several descriptions as Ken looked through various stages in his life. I was also told he was with me during his passing ( he died in hospital just before I got there) and exactly what I did when I arrived at the hosp

Yes I seespirit as golden orbs before they manifest themselves, as do many mediums.
Aspiritual being can show itself to the Medium in any form it wishes and at any stage in it's life span, this is common when wishing to highlight a point and to prove the "continual existence of the human soul" (Not body)

Also I have known spirit to project themselves as they were in a previous life when the recipient could understand that.

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ORIGINAL: Healistic

I assume the above quotation is taken from Siver Birch's account of 'his' first contact with medium Maurice Barbanell but I don't understand how it is a response to my question (also quoted)...

"Silver birch left the spirit world of engergy to return to the material earth plane."

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I must be failing to express myself adequately. I still don't understand how the sentence above relates to the question I asked earlier. How can I put it more clearly? Please help me here.

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What are your sources which make you disagree?

My own experiences as a physical and trance medium, many years of closed circle work and also reading and listening to many other communicators and ascended masters at work. Also through soul rescue circles and astral travelling Etc Etc.

These are what I have received personally and If you know any mediums they will tell you that they trust in their own guides.

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Babies are created only in the physical. Those which pass on 'early', that is before maturing into adulthood, will continue to grow to maturity. Babies are not produced in other than physical spheres (either our own or similar ones) This is an aspect rarely mentioned. Interesting point to ponder perhaps???

Apart from the underlined, ok with that. Remember that spirit can show itself as whatever it likes. If the wish is within the recipients mind. Of course if the child was unborn it could have reincarnated so the underlined above would not apply.

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Oh boy! I wish I had some of the experience you all have. So interesting and so informative.

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I uttered my first expression in the world of matter through another’s organism".

I take this to mean that he used the medium's vocal cords or maybe through direct voice, in which case he would have also taken over the medium's body to be able to do this. But does this also imply that he had never habited the earth plane. I am a little confused here - mind you these days I have to admit that it does not take much to confuse this 'old biddy'.;)

So as a medium since 1962, you would have started your work at the tender age of 19 then?
I myself have been a Spiritualist since 1976....at the age of 42. I have been involved in Church matters and development circles in the last 31 years. Read quite a lot of books, but speak generally through my own experiences and an inner knowledge which as someone else said, sits right with me.

I have also had fourteen years as the power house of a physical circle, so I am fully aware of how much energy is needed to enable spirit to manifest as they would have done when on the earth plane.
I consider myself very fortunate to have experienced so much of my own physical phenomena around the home from time to time. Some of it even of a humerous nature - when my teeth went missing - though it was not so funny at the time when I was due to go to work.;)

XX

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Apart from the underlined, ok with that. Remember that spirit can show itself as whatever it likes. If the wish is within the recipients mind. Of course if the child was unborn it could have reincarnated so the underlined above would not apply.

I don't agree with the underlined I am afraid, because it does not always have anything to do with the recipients mind. Cases have been shown, that spirit have appeared after their passing, to people who had no awareness of the death of the person concerned.

XX

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ORIGINAL: Healistic

Babies are created only in the physical. Those which pass on 'early', that is before maturing into adulthood, will continue to grow to maturity. Babies are not produced in other than physical spheres (either our own or similar ones) This is an aspect rarely mentioned. Interesting point to ponder perhaps???

Apart from the underlined, ok with that. Remember that spirit can show itself as whatever it likes. If the wish is within the recipients mind. Of course if the child was unborn it could have reincarnated so the underlined above would not apply.

OK I can go with our differences re life in the dimension immediately following the physical.

If the child WAS born into the physical, or if the i.e. (incarnating entity) chose not to be reincarnated following stillbirth, neo-natal death etc then what would be the state of that i.e. after their return to whence they came? Would the i.e. return to its earlier state of spiritual 'maturity'? I guess a spiritually evolved i.e. would have that capacity....can't disagree with that scenario.

Does your statement that "spirit can show itself as whatever it likes" imply that an apparently growing child - as perceived by sensitives - is actually simply a manifestation by the i.e. to allow an understanding of the relatedness of that i.e. to its physical parent(s)?

In this latter case, what is the relationship of parent(s) to the lost child? Are they still felt as mother and father if the relationship was unable to develop after birth?

Interesting points developing.

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ORIGINAL: Healistic

What are your sources which make you disagree?

My own experiences as a physical and trance medium, many years of closed circle work and also reading and listening to many other communicators and ascended masters at work. Also through soul rescue circles and astral travelling Etc Etc.

These are what I have received personally and If you know any mediums they will tell you that they trust in their own guides.

OK I understand your explanation although it appears to fly in the face of what I have learned myself. Without a personal relationship with the source of this info I remain cautious of accepting without corroboration. SB said something like "Accept only that which appeals to reason" ?

I have not, however, dismissed these issues out of hand....

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I have a personal problem in finding difficulty accepting views which seem greatly at odds with what has been widely taught for decades. I guess you could argue with any claim about how-wide 'widely-taught' actually is.

I'm not saying that they are incorrect but without authentication or corroboration they may be simply those of a communicator whose own personal outlooks are being communicated - genuinely held but perhaps not totally accurate.

SB, in reply to a question about reincarnation (having to paraphrase here), said that he knew of individuals on 'his side' who strongly asserted that they had had no experience of reincarnation - it did not happen. Yet SB said that he had lived in the physical on several occasions and, understandably, had no reservations about it - it had happened with him and did with others.

I guess that strongly-held beliefs from 'this side' can transfer to 'the other side' and influence the views of discarnate communicators, perhaps for very long periods of earth time.

Hence my reservations.

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I don't agree with the underlined I am afraid, because it does not always have anything to do with the recipients mind. Cases have been shown, that spirit have appeared after their passing, to people who had no awareness of the death of the person concerned.

I agree with youfreda. My quote was in answer to a specific question and circumstance.

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OK I understand your explanation although it appears to fly in the face of what I have learned myself. Without a personal relationship with the source of this info I remain cautious of accepting without corroboration. SB said something like "Accept only that which appeals to reason" ?

Hi Mac.

Well I have to agree with you totally on that one. I have found that ever since my first experience of going into trance at a church meeting when I was 19 I have been learning. My views have changed over the years and I have always tried to follow "Accept only that which appeals to reason". I always tell my student mediums my favourite saying which is "Show me someone who says they know it all and I will show you a liar".

For me the beauty of spiritualism is it's many facets and beliefs that abound from an acceptance of Jesus and the bible to the complete opposite. From an acceptance of alien life to non acceptance. For me one of my continual questions has always been "If all the philosophy channelling comes from the same source, how come all mediums do not channel the same philosophy?" I am still out on that one, have a few ideas but not really sure.

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This is so interesting,I'm learning such a lot here. One more thing! I was told by a medium friend that on the day of Ken's funeral that he would appear on a photo,which he did. He appeared as he looked before he passed.