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dvid
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I used to sleep with a fan on, in my room for around 4 years...and i always keep my window open at night...when i wake up my room is always freezing... ive stopped that now, but now i have pain in my lower back...its not an actual back problem i think its internal. I have IBS although i dont think its linked... i think it may be my kidney... my sister has a similar problem, she always feels cold...lower back problem...she was once diagnosed with a kidney infection...she has recently had blood tests taken because she has rapidly lost weight...(last time i visited the doctor he told me i was underweight).. diabetes runs in the family and im sure im going to get it at some point in my life...i always wake up in the morning feeling like crap. my back aches lower and upper...im cold..my dad said something about i was in for big trouble if i had a chill in my kidney [&:]so im confused..before i go visit the doctor or confide in the family i was wondering if anyone here thinks they know whats wrong with me (if anything) and whether they can offer advice...also tell me whether you think my (fan..and window opening) habits have caused this...thanks for your help

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Hello,
I think this is a kidney related pain , especially if it begins on the side and goes to the lower back.
It would help if you drank lots of fluids (non alcoholic)
Also , a urine test and a Serum creatinine and Blood urea would tell us if the damage to your kidneys is significant.

Regards,
Dr.Saurabh Joshi

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research apartame, "the sweet poison" linked with LBP amongst others, cant remeber the link to the article. if you drink "diet" coke etc, special k, actimel,
i will try to copy and paste below,,
regards
Gaz
SWEET POISON

A MUST READ

Maybe a little dramatic, but definitely worth a read!

In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick. She had stomach spasms and she was having a hard time getting around. Walking was a major chore. It took everything she had just to get out of bed; she was in so much pain.

By March 2002, she had undergone several tissue and muscle biopsies and was on 24 various prescription medications. The doctors could not determine what was wrong with her. She was in so much pain, and so sick.she just knew she was dying. She put her house, bank accounts, lifeinsurance, etc., in her oldest daughter's name, and made sure that her younger children were to be taken care of.

She also wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to Florida (basically in a wheelchair) for March 22nd.

On March 19 I called her to ask how her most recent tests went, and she said they didn't find anything on the test, but they believe she had MS.
I recalled an article a friend of mine e-mailed to me and I asked my sister if she drank diet soda? She told me that she did. As a matter of fact, she was getting ready to crack one open that moment.

I told her not to open it, and to stop drinking the diet soda!
I e-mailed her the article my friend, a lawyer, had sent.
My sister called me within 32 hours after our phone conversation and told me she had stopped drinking the diet soda AND she could walk! The muscle spasms went away. She said she didn't feel 100% but she sure felt a lot better. She told me she was going to her doctor with this article and would call me when she got home.

Well, she called me, and said her doctor was amazed! He is going to call all of his MS patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweeteners of any kind.
In a nutshell, she was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the diet soda...and literally dying a slow and miserable death.

When she got to Florida March 22, all she had to take was one pill, and that was a pill for the Aspartame poisoning! She is well on her way to a complete recovery.
And she is walking! No wheelchair! This article saved her life.
If it says 'SUGAR FREE' on the label; DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!
I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on 'ASPARTAME,' marketed as 'NutraSweet,' 'Equal,' and 'Spoonful.'

In the keynote address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United States in 2001 there is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus. It was difficult to determine exactly what toxin was causing this to be rampant.
I stood up and said that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.
I will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of this sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants. The methanol toxicity mimics, among other conditions, multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus. Many people were being diagnosed in error. Although multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, Methanol toxicity is!

Systemic lupus has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially with Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers. The victim usually does not know that the Aspartame is the culprit. He or she continues its use; irritating the lupus to such a degree that it may become a life-threatening condition.
We have seen patients with systemic lupus become asymptotic, once taken off diet sodas.

In cases of those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, most of the symptoms disappear. We've seen many cases where vision loss returned and hearing loss improved markedly.

This also applies to cases of tinnitus and fibromyalgia.
During a lecture, I said, 'If you are using ASPARTAME (NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting, pains, numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness, headaches, tinnitus, joint pain, unexplainable depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech, blurred vision, or memory loss you probably have ASPARTAME poisoning!'
People were jumping up during the lecture saying, 'I have some of these symptoms. Is it reversible?'

Yes! Yes! Yes! STOP drinking diet sodas and be alert for Aspartame on food labels! Many products are fortified with it! This is a serious problem.
Dr. Espart (one of my speakers) remarked that so many people seem to be symptomatic for MS and during his recent visit to a hospice, a nurse stated that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all been diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence!

Diet soda is NOT a diet product! It is a chemically altered, multiple SODIUM (salt) and ASPARTAME containing product that actually makes you crave carbohydrates. It is far more likely to make you GAIN weight!

These products also contain formaldehyde, which stores in the fat cells, particularly in the hips and thighs. Formaldehyde is an absolute toxin andis used primarily to preserve 'tissue specimens.' Many products we use every day contain this chemical but we SHOULD NOT store it IN our body!

Dr. H. J. Roberts stated in his lectures that once free of the 'diet products' and with no significant increase in exercise; his patients lost an average of 19 pounds over a trial period.

Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics.
We found that some physicians, who believed that they had a patient with retinopathy, in fact, had symptoms caused by Aspartame.
The Aspartame drives the bloodsugar out of control. Thus diabetics may suffer acute memory loss due to the fact that aspartic acid and phenylalanine are NEUROTOXIC when taken without the other amino acids necessary for a good balance.

Treating diabetes is all about BALANCE. Especially with diabetics, the Aspartame passes the blood/brain barrierand it then deteriorates the neurons of the brain; causing various levels of brain damage, seizures, depression, manic depression, panic attacks, uncontrollable anger and rage.

Consumption of Aspartame causes these same symptoms in non-diabetics as well.
Documentation and observation also reveal that thousands of children diagnosed with ADD and ADHD have had complete turnarounds in their behavior when these chemicals have been removed from their diet. So called 'behavior modification prescription drugs' (Ritalin and others) are no longer needed. Truth be told, they were never NEEDED in the first place! Most of these children were being 'poisoned' on a daily basis with the very foods that were 'better for them than sugar.'

It is also suspected that the Aspartame in thousands of pallets of diet Coke and diet Pepsi consumed by men and women fighting in the Gulf War, may be partially to blame for the well-known Gulf War Syndrome.

Dr. Roberts warns that it can cause birth defects, i.e. mental retardation, if taken at the time of conception and during early pregnancy.
Children are especially at risk for neurological disorders and should NEVER be given artificial sweeteners. There are many different case histories to relate of children suffering grand mal seizures and other neurological disturbances talking about a plague of neurological diseases directly caused by the use of this deadly poison.'

Herein lies the problem:
There were Congressional Hearings when Aspartame was included 100 different products and strong objection was made concerning its use. Since this initial hearing, there have been two subsequent hearings, and still nothing has been done. The drug and chemical lobbies have very deep pockets.

Sadly, MONSANTO'S patent on Aspartame has EXPIRED!
There are now over 5,000 products on the market that contain this deadly chemical and there will be thousands more introduced. Everybody wants a 'piece of the Aspartame pie.' I assure you that MONSANTO, the creator of Aspartame, knows how deadly it is.

And isn't it ironic that MONSANTO funds, among others, the American Diabetes Association, the American Dietetic Association and the Conference of the American College of Physicians?

This has been recently exposed in the New York Times.
These [organizations] cannot criticize any additives or convey their link to MONSANTO because they take money from the food industry and are required to endorse their products.

Senator Howard Metzenbaum wrote and presented a bill that would require label warnings on products containing Aspartame, especially regarding pregnant women, children and infants. The bill would also institute independent studies on the known dangers and the problems existing in the general population regarding seizures, changes in brain chemistry, neurological changes and behavioral symptoms.
The bill was killed.

It is known that the powerful drug and chemical lobbies are responsible for this, letting loose the hounds of disease and death on an unsuspecting and uninformed public. Well, you're Informed now! YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW!

Please print this out and/or e-mail to your family and friends.

They have a right to know too

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I used to sleep with a fan on, in my room for around 4 years...and i always keep my window open at night...when i wake up my room is always freezing... ive stopped that now, but now i have pain in my lower back...its not an actual back problem i think its internal. I have IBS although i dont think its linked... i think it may be my kidney... my sister has a similar problem, she always feels cold...lower back problem...she was once diagnosed with a kidney infection...she has recently had blood tests taken because she has rapidly lost weight...(last time i visited the doctor he told me i was underweight).. diabetes runs in the family and im sure im going to get it at some point in my life...i always wake up in the morning feeling like crap. my back aches lower and upper...im cold..my dad said something about i was in for big trouble if i had a chill in my kidney [&:]so im confused..before i go visit the doctor or confide in the family i was wondering if anyone here thinks they know whats wrong with me (if anything) and whether they can offer advice...also tell me whether you think my (fan..and window opening) habits have caused this...thanks for your help

Reading your post I would say that you are a great self hypnotist.... you lay in a lot of post hypnotic suggestions (i.e.... diabetes runs in the family and im sure im going to get it at some point in my life)

Go to the Doctors and get a diagnosis then come back here and ask for something that 'compliments' none of these therapies should be used as a replacement for a proper medical diagnosis.

If any complimentary therapist recommends differently then they are not acting ethically IMHO....

2 years ago my friends wife had a pain in her back and she didn't go to the Doctor but used a hot water bottle etc... and she died of blood poisoning I know this is an extreme case but it illustrated my point... Go to the Doctors....

Best Wishes,

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dvid
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i havent checked this post in a while and it was thanks to someone sending me a private message that i managed read what you all had to say. Since i made that post i have moved out and since becoming independent my life style has changed, im now more healthy in terms of eating and excercise. The back problems aren't so much of a problem but occasionally i get back pain , not enough to complain about though. Thanks to everyone though who took an interest and tried to help 😉

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Hi there

There's a book called Back Pain by a guy called John E Sarno. He looks at the emotional connection to pain. Both back pain and stress have an impact on both back pain and IBS and so it might be worth looking at ways to de-stress and relax to see whether stress and pain are relative in your case. Exercise is a great stress reliever, even just 10 minutes a day. You could also complete a food and symptoms diary which will help you pin point symptoms and possibly highlight possible causes and trends re the way you feel. It all helps you take control, and that's always a good thing.

Sarah

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