which Chromium

RE: which Chromium

Chromium piclonate.

Not Chromium Trichloride, as it is inorganic & less than 1% is absorbed by the body.

50-200 micro-grams daily. Start at 50 & build up over a couple of weeks, whilst keeping a very close eye on blood glucose levels.

Ideal done with support of GP or at least let them know. Also, if it helps you, they may look into it & pass this info on to others.

Chrome has also shown to have significant positive effects on cholesterol levels.

Suggest you do a bit more research, the book I just checked in is over 10 years old - The Doctor's Vitamin & Mineral Encyclopedia - Sheldon Saul Hendler, MD, PhD.

It's very well researched & very good, but dated. There maybe a newer edition.

I'm sure there are other supplements with positive evidence re. diabetes, but don't have time to look right now.

Good luck - let us know how you get on - Andrew.

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Andrew,

You are a STAR,

I was just being asked about this by a client who is coming tomorrow. Bless you, what a fund of knowledge you are.

Love Gillyxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Thanks very much for your answer. I'll try and will et you know how i'm getting on.
Bokken

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Hi Bokken

I'm taking this too, and last check I had my cholesterol and liver tests they had improved.
and as I had stopped taking statins (damaged the liver) the consultant didnt know why, but said whatever it was, to carry on!!

I have chromium polynicotinate (is it the same as Andrew wrote). I bought it from
(mail order based in Guernsey) and it costs £7.45 for 180 or £13.45 for 360. Dont know if cheaper elsewhere but their stuff is very good usually and they have a very informative magazine/brochure. It was after reading about it in there that I decided to give it a try.

Andrew, what are possible side effects, if you know please? Or interactions.

Jan x

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Trivalent chromium, the dietry form of this essential trace element, has very low tixicity.

I have chromium polynicotinate (is it the same as Andrew wrote).

Assuming that you've spelt it as it is on the container, then I am not familliar with this type. That said, if sold as a supplement, then the above will apply.

As it is an essential mineral, then there are no 'side effects' that one might associate with a drug, as it has no pharmalogical effect, as it works on a nutritional level. i.e. if lacking or a problem with absorbtion, then it is simply giving the body what it needs.

Side effects are now called 'adverse reactions' to take account of the fact that it is not always the drug that is the cause of the effect, but that some react to it, such as in the form of an intolerance or allergy.

Whilst this can, of course, be the case - it also displaces the blame from the drug itself. Clever, hey?

Another mineral that may be useful for glucose tolerance is vanadium.

The only place I've seen this for sale is Holland & Barrat in the form of vanadyl sulphate (10 milligrams, x1 per day) .

Things to note:

*Elevated levels of vanadium have been associated with manic depression, so don't take more than dose recommended on pack or by nutristionist or naturopath. Also, don't take any if suffering from depression.

*Large doses of Vitamin C can deplete vanadium levels.

If anyone can find more upto date info on vanadium, then please let us know.

Many thanks - Andrew. 🙂

PS We'll probably need to move this thread to Diet & Nutrition some time soon!

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Thanks for that will look into it some more.

I did a search on Chromium Polynicotinate (niacin ) and some recent research favours that as the picotinate (they are different types) has now been found to have some problems.

The link is .

Re moving the link. I expect I'm just lazy (or my computer too old and slow), but I just dont get to check out all the sub forums as it takes so long. Can the mods please take this into account and not create even more sub forums, it would be very helpful to some of us if some could be re- combined. so we dont miss some very interesting threads?

Jan X

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Dear Jan,

Just to recheck spelling - this is the form commonly available in health food shops in th UK.

Chromium piclonate.

Niacin - is a B vitamin - I think. Do send me a PM if necessary & I'll get my books out.

Re. the sub forums - HP is getting so busy that we have needed to divide things up a bit for the system to work. We're doing our best to achieve a good balance.

So with regard to your original posting - the places to look would be:

* Diet & Nutrition,
* Natural Remedies &
* Ailments - Metabolic Disorders.

We're still working on it & it's not ideal, but that's life, I guess. 😀

Cheers - Andrew.

PS

Your PC may just be slowing down because of accumulated excess data. Go into System Tools & select Disk Defragmentator, select C drive & leave it to run. May take a few hours but will re-organise how the data is stored on you 'C' (hard) drive. You may need to disable your screen saver for it to do it's job uninterrupted. 😉

If it's still slow - it may be that your 'dial up' number to your internet service provider (ISP) is too busy. Tell tell signs are - trouble getting connected & getting disconnected when online. Most ISP's have alternative dial up numbers, so have a rummage around their site. 😉

Failing that - I recommend ISDL - proper broadband. The company I use are called & are very reasonable & excellent service. I find that the big companies have very poor user support. 😉

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Yo are a star, Andrew, thanks for the computer advice, will give it a try. We cant have broadband as although our computer was 'state of the art' 7 years ago it cant support it!!

I copied the bit from the website I looked at as it is a bit confusing with the spellings. here goes.

Quote

Another form of bioavailable chromium is chromium polynicotinate, or niacin-bound chromium. Chromium polynicotinate seems to have some definite advantages over chromium picolinate, including even better bioavailability.

One study indicated that large amounts of chromium picolinate cause chromosome damage, whereas chromium polynicotinate did not. At first, this study was widely criticized because the chromium picolinate levels were far higher than one would get with normal supplementation. Subsequently, however, many other scientific studies have called into question the safety of chromium picolinate.

It now appears that niacin-bound chromium is a much safer form of chromium for supplementation. Some studies have also shown that niacin is necessary for chromium supplements to be of benefit.

Chromium aspartate, an unpatented and much less expensive form of chromium, appears also be very well absorbed; but it does not have the benefit of the level of scientific testing that the patented forms have. This makes it difficult for the consumer to know which form of chromium to take. Even supplement manufacturers are confused and some supplements contain a mixture of two or more of the above-mentioned forms.

Even though chromium aspartate may work as well as the other two forms, the only advantage of chromium aspartate is in its lower cost to the supplement manufacturer, who must buy it in large quantities. The cost of the chromium to the end user is not a significant factor because the amounts used in a daily supplement are so tiny.

As it pertains to life extension, it is likely that chromium is just a part of the larger subject of insulin resistance. Anything that can reduce the problem of insulin resistance, and bring blood sugar levels down to a moderately-low and stable level, will reduce the problems of aging.

End quote.

As previously said its polynicotinate, I'm taking, so sounds good to me.

Are Piclonate and Picolinate the same!. The names are so similar but small variations seem to happen.

Will bow out now and rest brain.

Jan X

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Thanks - I didn't know all that recent stuff.

The last two mentioned - probably our own spellings - okay, probably mine. [:o]

With regard to actually treating someone with DBM - would see chrome as a short term solution & NAET treatment as a longterm solution. 😉

Desensitising to all the different types of sugar with NAET would probably go a long way to actually addressing the underlying problems. It's a bit late to get soap box out, but there's more blurb on Allergies forum & on NAET link below.

And. [sm=sleep.gif]

Hi Bokken

I'm taking this too, and last check I had my cholesterol and liver tests they had improved.
and as I had stopped taking statins (damaged the liver) the consultant didnt know why, but said whatever it was, to carry on!!

I have chromium polynicotinate (is it the same as Andrew wrote). I bought it from
[url]Buy vitamins and supplements online from the UK's No1 direct supplier | Healthspan[/url] (mail order based in Guernsey) and it costs £7.45 for 180 or £13.45 for 360. Dont know if cheaper elsewhere but their stuff is very good usually and they have a very informative magazine/brochure. It was after reading about it in there that I decided to give it a try.

Andrew, what are possible side effects, if you know please? Or interactions.

Jan x

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