I do many of these things, such as sound healing, crystal healing, supplements, chakra work - but I'd never considered it be energy manipulation but I guess that's what it is. The only thing for me is because I'm hyper sensitive, I can't work with too many things at the same time and have to make sure that they complement each other; so for instance I couldn't use sound healing, crystals and essential oils for the same thing as that for me would be system overload.
Ray
I understand the problems relating to sensitivity .. At a point in time I was overloaded myself with certain energies effecting my nervous system.
Sometimes the dam needs to break in order for a flow to resume,
I think that a combination of energy work at times that compliments one's state of sensitivity can be the best course of action.
Manipulation of energy is a word I use that is rather more the dam breaker than a subtle change of energy.
It could be said that dropping everything and doing nothing ....Is just another technique .
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it is another technique if you say so...and who can stop you from saying that?
'Thirsty' ones go on a life long quest to quench their thirst and yet it is only ever quenched when all seeking, wandering stops...when all techniques drop off, all yearning falls off...one attains to doing nothing. It can never become a technique. It is the very demise of all effort
it is another technique if you say so...and who can stop you from saying that?
'Thirsty' ones go on a life long quest to quench their thirst and yet it is only ever quenched when all seeking, wandering stops...when all techniques drop off, all yearning falls off...one attains to doing nothing. It can never become a technique. It is the very demise of all effort
Doing something compared to doing nothing are both experiences had.
It's not really my thoughts on it that make it be as it is ..
You either do something or nothing.
Both intentions / actions / non actions just allow / create a different result .
The search only stops when one realises there is no more searching to be had .. until that point one has to reach that point.
Everything has it's time and place ..
Suggesting that someone for example should not look or do something regarding finding or realising themselves will fall on deaf ears when one is lost unto themselves ..
You seem to promote doing nothing but this has not always been the case.
You are at a place to promote nothing and yet the great masters suggest effort is required when needed, self enquiry is good enough for Ramana and niz .. and many a great sage ..
Doing nothing for some will ...erm do nothing for you ..
Some require do do rather than not ..It really depends on where one is at ..
it is another technique if you say so...and who can stop you from saying that?
'Thirsty' ones go on a life long quest to quench their thirst and yet it is only ever quenched when all seeking, wandering stops...when all techniques drop off, all yearning falls off...one attains to doing nothing. It can never become a technique. It is the very demise of all effort
I disagree that the seeking has to stop in order for a quest to be fulfilled. Where is your evidence for this? Many find what they are looking for by going on a quest. Staying indoors (as it were) has its limitations.
Doing something compared to doing nothing are both experiences had.
It's not really my thoughts on it that make it be as it is ..
You either do something or nothing.
Both intentions / actions / non actions just allow / create a different result .
The search only stops when one realises there is no more searching to be had .. until that point one has to reach that point.
Everything has it's time and place ..
Suggesting that someone for example should not look or do something regarding finding or realising themselves will fall on deaf ears when one is lost unto themselves ..
You seem to promote doing nothing but this has not always been the case.
You are at a place to promote nothing and yet the great masters suggest effort is required when needed, self enquiry is good enough for Ramana and niz .. and many a great sage ..
Doing nothing for some will ...erm do nothing for you ..
Some require do do rather than not ..It really depends on where one is at ..
I appreciate Nice_1 your love of philosophy. I am not philosophizing in a general sense as you seem to point out in your reply to my post.
Not promoting nothingness or fullness for that matter. .not talking about general concepts but merely responding to the energy of Ray of Light
"Everything has its place and time" as you say..... I wrote what I wrote because this is the time to say this....not to say what is relevant to you or some people out there or in some general sense, not as a philosophy....but bowing to the command of energy in which the question arose.
Sometimes philosophy is ok, yet mostly life can do without concepts.
Personally, I am not great fan of philosophy, only in direct response to life.
The op already has an inner direction that is urging him to do not much, but to stay put in his being...my response being merely and directly to that energy.
....You say, "some require to do rather than not". Where do others come in this? When it is such a direct question that his inner feeling is telling him that everything is within him. He is clearly telling where he is at....then why bring all kinds of spiritual scenarios, and requirements thereof into it?
I don't see any need of it, but hey, if you do, good for you
Sometimes we need to just be.....something that is very hard for many people. Ultimately all healing comes from within. ( although try telling that to some of my pharmacy/medical colleagues!!) and different approaches will work with different people. May I suggest since you already meditate you investigate mindfulness. Amy has beaten me to all the other things already 🙂
what does mindfullness mean? Im new to this and im seeking out support coz im going through a hard time
what does mindfullness mean? Im new to this and im seeking out support coz im going through a hard time
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/stress-anxiety-depression/pages/mindfulness.aspx
I appreciate Nice_1 your love of philosophy. I am not philosophizing in a general sense as you seem to point out in your reply to my post.
Not promoting nothingness or fullness for that matter. .not talking about general concepts but merely responding to the energy of Ray of Light"Everything has its place and time" as you say..... I wrote what I wrote because this is the time to say this....not to say what is relevant to you or some people out there or in some general sense, not as a philosophy....but bowing to the command of energy in which the question arose.
Sometimes philosophy is ok, yet mostly life can do without concepts.
Personally, I am not great fan of philosophy, only in direct response to life.The op already has an inner direction that is urging him to do not much, but to stay put in his being...my response being merely and directly to that energy.
....You say, "some require to do rather than not". Where do others come in this? When it is such a direct question that his inner feeling is telling him that everything is within him. He is clearly telling where he is at....then why bring all kinds of spiritual scenarios, and requirements thereof into it?I don't see any need of it, but hey, if you do, good for you
You wrote what you wrote as did I for it was the right time for both of us to make our thoughts known.
Speaking of working with an array of helpful tools whether it is working with sound is direct experience of it.
Taking care of the mind-body by means of nutrition / herbs / minerals / crystals are direct experiences.
My philosophy is putting together what compliments a certain condition / illness / challenge.
You have your own philosophy in regards to doing nothing.
Ray has expressed that self healing or the power to heal self is within self which is correct, but as said there are things that can compliment one's inner workings. Ray has spend 15 years finding what works and what doesn't.
If Ray did nothing 15 years ago then ray would not know what works and what doesn't now.
The man lost unto himself would not know any different if he hadn't entertained the enquiry.
Niz would not of realized himself unless he didn't self enquire ...
It depends on where one is at, that is why I said "some require to do rather than not". What applies to you in the moment may not apply to ray or myself in the moment ..
You would have to know ray as you know yourself to say do nothing ..
My input has been relating to the many helpful combinations there are that compliment self healing ..
Self healing can encompass as many levels as necessary, hence the mind-body-spirit-soul connection .. Finding the right combination is a journey unto itself and if one doesn't engage with the journey then one will only know what not engaging brings to the table ..
Hi all
I'm really appreciating the conversation this has produced.
Yes, I have been pursuing healing techniques over the years and whilst my knowledge has built up, in terms of the physical healing, it's pretty much got me nowhere. That's why I was so drawn to jnani's thoughts of doing nothing. I've often seen references to healing taking place when you stop and just be. This goes against my whole nature as I'm very much a doer. So this 'just being' is something I wanted to look at more.
I have for the last week or so stopped taking flower essences which were causing more problems and it feels good to just come back to myself and see what maybe within.
Ray
Hi all
I'm really appreciating the conversation this has produced.
Yes, I have been pursuing healing techniques over the years and whilst my knowledge has built up, in terms of the physical healing, it's pretty much got me nowhere. That's why I was so drawn to jnani's thoughts of doing nothing. I've often seen references to healing taking place when you stop and just be. This goes against my whole nature as I'm very much a doer. So this 'just being' is something I wanted to look at more.
I have for the last week or so stopped taking flower essences which were causing more problems and it feels good to just come back to myself and see what maybe within.
Ray
It really depends on what physical ailments one is trying to heal.
I myself have never ventured into flower remedies to heal anything although heal thyself from bach explained the nature of disease wonderfully well.
Understanding nutrition, understanding the body is a lifetime study and sometimes one can not help their ailment/s through not knowing enough about what causes the ailments in the first place and not understanding what natural products work well.
A friend at work suffers from psoriasis over most of his body and continues to take the doctors prescription drugs / steroid creams and continues to eat a junk food diet.
To do nothing about his situation / ailment will do nothing for his ailment.
As said it really depends on what your or anybodies issues / challenges / ailments are when we start advising what is the best course of action ..
Hi all
I'm really appreciating the conversation this has produced.
Yes, I have been pursuing healing techniques over the years and whilst my knowledge has built up, in terms of the physical healing, it's pretty much got me nowhere. That's why I was so drawn to jnani's thoughts of doing nothing. I've often seen references to healing taking place when you stop and just be. This goes against my whole nature as I'm very much a doer. So this 'just being' is something I wanted to look at more.
I have for the last week or so stopped taking flower essences which were causing more problems and it feels good to just come back to myself and see what maybe within.
Ray
Ray, you have said it all. You don't need to work on yourself anymore. you have been ripening, by doing this that and the other...and within you now the effort is coming to an end. When you are ripe enough to just sit, Techniques methods, healings etc don't work for you anymore. They still work for others, but you are not them.
Your time has come to go beyond effort.
The very road that takes you to your destination cannot be clung to. Most do. in the end the path has be left behind....which is what is happening to you. Something that does not happen very often
Very pleased for you
NICE1: I've studied nutrition and supplements for about 10 years or so. I don't eat any processed food; my diet is pretty clean and I'm not on any medication; I haven't even taken any simple painkillers for several years.
Neither of the two things I'm trying to heal will be helped with supplements; it's a trauma, so it's going to be my emotional reaction to that and no amount of EFT, TAT, mindfulness has made any impact. One of them I've decided to let go (prompted by jnani's view of letting things go). I've invested enough time and energy in trying to resolve it, so I now want to try the "doing nothing" scenario. I feel there is some progress too as it's not on my mind all the time, seeking, researching, trying things which ultimately cause a new problem.
Ray
Ah o.k. now we have established that it is trauma based then I can relate. I had suffered mental and emotional abuse for over a decade in my life experience thus far so know all about trauma. I know that popping any kind of pills won't do that much to resolve the trauma but B vitamins help loads in regards the the stress told upon the body / adrenals as you probably know.
Like I said one has to know what the issue is when one goes about resolving / healing.
What I have realised is that even past life traumas come back to haunt you if they are not resolved, I had three years of self healing the trauma relating too that. Ignoring, it, doing nothing about it doesn't make the issue go away ..
If you want to go down that route because you are exhausted of trying this and trying that then perhaps you are ready to take some rest-bite and I can understand that. Rome wasn't built in day lol.
I kept on and on with getting to the heart of myself with daily meditation / enquiry and yoga was part of the parcel of that process.
I think with all respect that your prompt to ask for help and guidance on your challenges doesn't reflect someone that is in a place within one's self that is beyond effort (not that you have implied that you are).
The saying what you put in is was you get out goes without saying ..
If you have come to terms / accepted the trauma and have forgiven self / others relating too it then like most fires they will eventually die out all on their own .. If you don't feel that you have dealt with all of that side of things then consciously or subconsciously you will keep the fire alight .
"past life trauma" - well, I have one of those to deal with as well which has showed up in this lifetime as one hell of a phobia which was triggered at the tender age of 5. I tried cognitive behaviour therapy which made the situation worse to the extent I could barely function. This is an example of me trying to sort things and making it worse. Following the CBT I had six sessions of hypnotherapy which got the phobia down to a point I could cope with it with my usual coping mechanisms. I also saw a medium who explained that this had all come from a past life death at the age of 5 - the same age as a situation here triggered it. Anyway, it's more manageable now.
Yes, I have accepted the trauma (not related to the phobia) done that much EFT and TAT on forgiveness, acceptance and on and on. In terms of the 'letting it go' view, I figure that if my body wants to hang onto the trauma, that's up to it - in my mind, I'm more than ready to move on. I'm kinda hoping that with all the work I've put into healing from it over the last ten years that maybe one day the physical will catch up with the mental/emotional.
Ray