Quantum Touch

Hi bejay,

I haven't done QT, but I know some people here have and will offer what advice they can. I would imagine, like Reiki, you don't need to do any preparation for it. Just go along with an open mind and experience what you experience.

Love and Reiki Hugs

Hi

I am a Quantum Touch Instructor, and I can tell you that you are going to have the greatest time.

QT may look like reiki, but it is not. It is what reiki should have become/evolved into, but got caught up with a lot of 'reiki masters (master, the conartists favorite word)' ego, and became a marketing jamboree, that people could try to bu.-sh. other people with by tagging it to words like/such as original, usui, angelic (Virtue, Cooper crap), Tibetan, Celtic, blah, blah, blah.

The wonder of QT, is the elgance of its simplicty. With just 5 easy breathing patterns, and an simple mental attitude, you will find yourself 'doing' miracles.

You will be moving bones by the end of the first morning, and will never need to learn another energy system.

The only drawback with QT, is that you will be constantly looking for new clients, as you will be healing people in 1/2/may be even 3 sessions

I am a Reiki Master but couldn't really get on with Quantum Touch at all. I think it either suits or it doesn't. I hope you enjoy the workshop though and as was said earlier its' best to go with an open mind and see how it resonates with you, not listen to any of us!

Thank you all will let u all no how I get on

Hi Bejay

I am currently studying Reiki II and am interested in QT....Just curious as to how you got on?

Hi currentybun , well I have done level 2 reiki and level 2 seichem which is similar , and also interested in chi kung ( internal kungfu) and quantum touch to honest quantum touch is a very simple no nonsence method , but the workshops are a little expensive but u partcipate with a group with is fun and can get a certificate which is usefull , but because there is no symbols or initiations it can easly be taught and a good book will learn you just as well, all the above methods work on intention , relaxation, meditation , breath control and if u are a natural channel for healing then any of these will help also asking for higher energies and spirit giudes will help , I thing that any body that can be used as a channel for healing can use any method above to amplify what they are doing, if u can gather you chi , prana (energy) and store it , then direct it with intention and also balance yourself balance eg your chakras etc, then Quantum touch is as good as any thing out there .

Hiya

While I agree there is a place for intention, meditation and the other things you quote in Reiki, Reiki just is. You don't have to push it or force it: just let it be, let it flow through you. You are just the channel. A Native American prayer I came across speaks of being a "hollow bone" for healing to flow through, and that is what I ask for at the start of each session.

Bejay, what happened eh? what did you think of it? would you recommend it? etc etc I have often thought about QT, but have just not followed it up.
Lionman, come on spill the QT beans!!

Hi lioninlondon , well QT works on bieng relaxed and focused using a few deep breaths and using a hand technique, very simple , see youtube if i am aloud to say that it has a long clip on there , if u need any more in depth information pm me

Thanks for the info Beejay

I'm gonna read some more about it. Anything that focuses my intention/attention can only be good!

I know this is an old post but just wondering how many people use Quantum touch either alone or with other therapies.have read a little on the breaths,Im just wondering if you have to consistently do the breathing exercises when treating a client or just some ??

I would like to revive this topic if possible. I'm reiki 2 and am picking up QT from the book. I'd like to be objective and fair as I go. From what I've tried so far, it doesn't feel any stronger than reiki and the insistence on breath work is a little tiring while continuously pulling energy from the air and feet up to your crown and down to your arms.

I have a colleague who has done his QT 2 so I'll ask him for advice as well. What are other peoples opinions? At the moment, I feel as though it's just energy healing that drains the healer but you're pulling ki from around you with the breathing to keep you going.

I'm Reiki II as well, and have read the Richard Gordon Quantum Touch book as it was recommended to me some years ago. I found it interesting, but as I was already involved with Reiki I didn't think it increased, or even supplemented, the healing energy. Others have of course had different experiences.

Hi Finalshine.

I own and have read several of the books by Richard Gordon, and a few years ago I met Chris Duffield (who appears as an endorsee here [url]Try Quantum Touch : Massage Therapy : Quantumtouch.com[/url]) when I was attending an organic food meeting on the West Coast.

I found Chris to be a wonderful person full of healthy energy and recall only good energies from our conversation. During our introductions, he learned I practiced Reiki and I learned he practiced Quantum Touch, and afterwards he asked me my opinion of Quantum Touch.

I replied that as a style, I felt it was tremendously valuable because its techniques are based on and inspired by Traditional Chinese Medicine theory and acupuncture techniques, but also added that I stayed away from the practice because many of the practitioners I had met online had been simply obnoxious, entering forums such as Reiki forums and preaching Quantum Touch was more powerful than any other form of energywork, much like Born Again Christians only talk about Jesus in all conversations.

Now, a few years ago (maybe 6-8?) that is what was happening in online hands-on healing communities, but since then things seem to have changed a bit. Now I see the practitioners present themselves in a respectable manner, both spiritually and in a professional business capacity. Quantum Touch was still new in that time, and to me it's understandable how excited the new practitioners of it were (and still are, today).

I believe that the primary difference between Reiki and Quantum Touch is that Reiki only has a few hand positions and is becoming religious in nature, while Quantum Touch has the potential to have a wide array of hand positions for treatments and is genuinely spiritual in nature (meaning there is no homage to a spiritual icon like Usui, mystical symbols, or mantras).

When Richard began promoting Quantum Touch, he was among those promoting it as something "more powerful than Reiki" as many in that time were prone to do (and amusingly enough, most of those systems making those claims died out). I feel that whether or not QT is better than Reiki, or Reiki is better than QT is really up to the individual practitioner to decide. Both systems have the potential to help clients find healing within their life.

I feel that Quantum Touch is a very worthwhile system to learn if a person is either drawn to learn it, or feels it would be advantageous to have on their resume.

I believe that the primary difference between Reiki and Quantum Touch is that Reiki only has a few hand positions and is becoming religious in nature, while Quantum Touch has the potential to have a wide array of hand positions for treatments and is genuinely spiritual in nature (meaning there is no homage to a spiritual icon like Usui, mystical symbols, or mantras)

While this may be true for certain forms of Reiki, it is not representative of traditional Usui Reiki. Traditional Usui Reiki is an intuitive and practical healing method that is not religious, rather it is a means of spiritual development.

Re: Hand Positions
Hand positions are not used as such. Hands are placed at areas of byosen or areas of healing need, e.g. if a client has a broken toe, the hand is placed over the broken toe. There are not 'limited hand positions'.

Re: Symbols & Mantras
The symbols (shirushi) and mantras (jumon/kotodama) are the mechanism for connecting to the energy. The use of symbols, words and sounds are part of Japanese culture as well as part of Japanese spiritual beliefs. Their use does not make Reiki a religious art.

Thank you for your replies. I feel that as someone attuned to reiki, when I begin pulling in ki for QT, I feel as though reiki comes through already so i don't feel fair in giving an opinion on QT.

And while some people warp and add to the teachings of reiki *cough angelic reiki cough*. These aren't the traditional teachings, I truly believe it has no religious roots and any that are added are the personal preference of the channeler. And I agree with omega, the hand positions are guidance, otherwise you are meant to let reiki and intuition guide you

Hi Finalshine.

I believe that the primary difference between Reiki and Quantum Touch is that Reiki only has a few hand positions and is becoming religious in nature, while Quantum Touch has the potential to have a wide array of hand positions for treatments and is genuinely spiritual in nature (meaning there is no homage to a spiritual icon like Usui, mystical symbols, or mantras).

I like Quantum Touch and sometimes do work with another practitioner who does Quantum Touch. I personally prefer Reiki, because it works best for me. It´s a personal thing. However, I do want to clarify what I am kind of surprised to read above.

• Reiki has as many hand positions as you like. It really depends on your training and how good your association and Reiki Master are at supporting and nurturing your progress.
• A good Reiki Master would not pay homage to any icons, Usui or otherwise, and would impart that onto their fledgling healers and practitioners. In Reiki, we do have a lineage system, so that we know where our attunement came from, which is a nice thing ensuring authenticity of the attunement, but that´s all.
• There are also no mantras in Reiki, but 5 Principles which are good for anyone to try and live their lives by. I have given many treatments that did not even include Reiki, and at the end of the treatment gave a Reiki Principle to the client as calming homework, which they used, and it helped them. Can you imagine, the strength of being able to let go of anger, for example? How calm everyone would be if they tried that! Every day, saying thanks for your many blessings is now re-worked and re-invented by the Law of Attraction folk, and rightly so, because it works. Having said that, it is not necessary for anyone to say the Reiki Principles. But they do help one live a better life, and it is one of the reasons why I like Reiki.
• Although Reiki is not religious, I believe that in some countries, the powers-that-be would only accept it if it is defined as a religion. This is for the same reason that you see many USA life coaches or healers with a Church Minister´s license, as they may not treat a client otherwise.
• The symbols in Reiki are published on many websites worldwide. They are not mystical. Each symbol has and carries a meaning. Let me try and explain. I can show you someone´s body reacting with kinesiology-based muscle-testing to a word that I have written on a piece of paper, even if neither of us knows what this word is. Their body knows. Somehow, we are all connected, and there is a shared knowledge that we energetically intuit. And when a symbol is drawn, it carries its intention for the healing, imho in the same way. I used to think the symbols were hogwash, but now that I use them regularly, I find them helpful at quickly and easily concentrating my intention.

Anyway, if anyone is thinking of QT training, go for it. If you are thinking of Reiki training, go for it. See what works for you; you may even be surprised to like using both at the same time! I know some healers do

Well, "actions speak louder than words," and people outside of Reiki are judging its practitioners (perhaps "discriminating against" its practitioners says it better) based not on claims from practitioners that it is not religious but rather the actions of those practitioners.

Well, "actions speak louder than words," and people outside of Reiki are judging its practitioners (perhaps "discriminating against" its practitioners says it better) based not on claims from practitioners that it is not religious but rather the actions of those practitioners.

There are over 140 forms of Reiki that are recognised as Reiki and many more that are called Reiki and are not related to Usui-sensei's method. Reiki has become a blanket term to describe so many different forms of practice that now when someone says anything about 'Reiki' it is pretty meaningless unless they specify what form of Reiki (if it is actually Reiki at all) they are referring to. The other factor is the individual practitioner and the things they add or change to the Reiki they have been taught. So, in essence, it is a little unjust to attach judgement to Reiki based on the actions of certain practitioners that may or may not be practising Usui Reiki.

So, in essence, it is a little unjust to attach judgement to Reiki based on the actions of certain practitioners that may or may not be practising Usui Reiki.

I do not disagree with you, but it is what is happening.

I would like to revive this topic if possible. I'm reiki 2 and am picking up QT from the book. I'd like to be objective and fair as I go. From what I've tried so far, it doesn't feel any stronger than reiki and the insistence on breath work is a little tiring while continuously pulling energy from the air and feet up to your crown and down to your arms.

I have a colleague who has done his QT 2 so I'll ask him for advice as well. What are other peoples opinions? At the moment, I feel as though it's just energy healing that drains the healer but you're pulling ki from around you with the breathing to keep you going.

Sounds like you're trying to hard. Most people do. I tend to use Alexanders/Pilates principles on breathing these days. That is to keep the pelvic and abdominal girdles engaged and continue to draw upwards, as you would in pilates and to breathe laterally. I avoid engaging the scalenes and chest breathing, or atleast ensure the scalenes aren't over taxed.

If you are pulling Ki from around you, this is what creates the field to which the client entrains, then your client can't take your energy.

You won't feel the extra strength of QT, your client will. Provided you're not standing in the way of the energy. It takes practice, keep going with it. It really is beautiful once you get it.

Look up Quantum Touch Core Transformation Alain Herriot on google books, learn the core transformation meditation which is used as the basis as the CT healing techniques, which are easy. Then you can run feminine energy to bring balance and give you a rest from the breathing. CT the breathing is very slow.

I just wish I could make money at QT. I do incorporate it into my manual work. Which is amazing. Some people don't know where they are after a treatment!!

I'm afraid, Reiki has too many Charlatons for me. I fear that a once beautiful gift has become sullied by, possibly a small number of numbtees.

Thanks for such a wonderfully in depth answer. I've been trying to look up an actual video of a treatment on YouTube to see how the practitioner works but can't seem to find one. Like i said, I'll try and chat to my QT2 colleague

Haven't read through all of this thread but knew someone who did this and apparently has the power to realign bones As far as I know unlike reiki doesn't require another person to carry out an initiation, so in theory you could learn it from a book I think :confused:

Quantum Touch is amazing, I get some great results with.

It is reasonably common to get bones moving particularly in the cervical or thoracic spine. Clients seem to be quite impressed by it too.

Theoretically, yes, you could learn Quantum Touch from the book. The only reason I did the course was to get the certificate for insurance purposes. And yes, that is the great thing about Quantum Touch, you don't need to be attuned. I believe there are too many charlatans within Reiki which gives it a bad name. I also don't like the idea of this symbol thing that Reiki practitioners do or the hierarchical structure that it seems to have. But, each to their own. Whatever floats your boat I suppose.

Quantum Touch is a very powerful modality and I would recommend it to anybody. Also, the good thing about it is you can't really switch it off. This has many benefits and quite nicely carries over into the likes of bodywork etc. So you get not only the physical side of release but also the energetic, which is great!