RE: The Old Testament Vs The New Testament
Dear Judy, thank you for replying I did find your post very helpful.:D
The reason I wanted to ask is that I have become interested in the teachings of Kabblah and I did hear that the Old Testament was the Torah. I couldn't understand why there were two versions of the bible. I understand the difference now thanks to both you and Divine Love.
I had always wondered why there was a New Testament and an Old Testament. I think I shall get both 😉
Thank you again. [sm=hug.gif]
RE: The Old Testament Vs The New Testament
Dear Whispers I read yestrerday that the OT includes five books form the Torah but the Torah has 22 books maybe Judy could confirm or correct us on this?
Judy?
Divine Love
RE: The Old Testament Vs The New Testament
Hi Kim,
Sorry, but I'm no Bible scholar! 😉 I'll dig around in some of my reference books, but what I'm mainly interested in is understanding the Bible from its spiritual perpective. I can't find anything about other books in the Torah.
Hi Whispers,
Glad what I wrote was helpful. You don't have to get two books - The Bible (or Holy Bible) is both books. What you will need to decide though is which translation. I would recommend, for accuracy of translation, the new International Version, the New Revised Standard Version or the Amplified Bible which gives several differnt hues of meaning for each word. For instance,I'll show you the differences between some of the translations of Psalm 23 (that's in the Old Testament on
http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/index.php?action=getVersionInfo&vid=8 (the New Revised Standard is called The English Standard Version there)
First the old poetical English of the King James Version (my favourite)
PSALM 23
A Psalm of David
 1The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
 2He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
 3He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
 4Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
 5Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
 6Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.
New International Version:
 1 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not be in want.
 2 He makes me lie down in green pastures,
      he leads me beside quiet waters,
 3 he restores my soul.
      He guides me in paths of righteousness
      for his name's sake.
 4 Even though I walk
      through the valley of the shadow of death,
      I will fear no evil,
      for you are with me;
      your rod and your staff,
      they comfort me.
 5 You prepare a table before me
      in the presence of my enemies.
      You anoint my head with oil;
      my cup overflows.
 6 Surely goodness and love will follow me
      all the days of my life,
      and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
      forever.
New Revised Standard Version:
 1The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
 2He makes me lie down in green pastures.
He leads me beside still waters.
 3He restores my soul.
He leads me in paths of righteousness
   for his name's sake.
 4Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
   I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
   your rod and your staff,
   they comfort me.
 5You prepare a table before me
   in the presence of my enemies;
you anoint my head with oil;
   my cup overflows.
6Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me
   all the days of my life,
and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD
   forever.
The Amplified Bible:
 1THE LORD is my Shepherd [to feed, guide, and shield me], I shall not lack.
   2He makes me lie down in [fresh, tender] green pastures; He leads me beside the still and restful waters.
   3He refreshes and restores my life (my self); He leads me in the paths of righteousness [uprightness and right standing with Him--not for my earning it, but] for His name's sake.
   4Yes, though I walk through the [deep, sunless] valley of the shadow of death, I will fear or dread no evil, for You are with me; Your rod [to protect] and Your staff [to guide], they comfort me.
   5You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. You anoint my head with oil; my [brimming] cup runs over.
   6Surely or only goodness, mercy, and unfailing love shall follow me all the
RE: The Old Testament Vs The New Testament
Here is a link on the Torah 5 books
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah
The Tanakh
24 books to include the Torah.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Scriptures
Divine Love
RE: The Old Testament Vs The New Testament
ORIGINAL: Divine Love
So it begs the question? Is God for everyone without discrimination? I would say yes.
Is everyone equal in God's eyes? Yes again.
Does God have a chosen people? No all are equal in God's eyes it is only man that judges which race is chosen and who is not.
Does God love those that do good ? Yes very much
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I'll have to argue on this. I'll start with this...
KJV Revelations 21:8
"But the fearfull, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremungers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burnith with fire and brimstone: which is second death"
Lets first talk about 1 thing. Each and every society in themselves determin what's good and evil as in right and wrong since each have their own set laws. Therefore what you consider to be bad in 1 society is not bad in another. How is it that the bible sets the rules for all men within every society without being discriminative? Clearly the bible forces you to follow its law or face eternal seperation from God aka Second death aka Hell. How is this any diffrent from Hitler to his own people and his vision of the world or any dictator in that manner?
This is the punishment from an omnicient being who also said...
"And the Lord was sorry that he made men on the Earth, and he was grieved in his heart" Genesis 6:6
Therefore the Lord is not Omniscient and not perfect because if he was then possibilities are not unknown when after all he simply made a mistake and felt sorry for creating man. You can't feel grief without remorse.
No Perfect being of good intentions with absolute power and knowledge would need to create lesser beings to serve him. Where is there justice in absolute control?
If you are clearly aware of every possibility throughout the time of any of your concieved creations, then why would any of your actions be considered a test?