I was wondering if anyone has heard of the Quan Yin Method to reach enlightenment and if anyone has tried it. I am having a meeting soon with someone from London who is going to teach me the Convenient Method before I get initiated. But I am kind of suspicious, not sure why - I have been in touch with a few people (buddhists) who say they have never heard of this which is quite strange - they are not charging anything either - which although this is good, Well I think I've been watching too many horror films of people being sucked into cults, I think I am just being paranoid.[:o]
However, I have read the teachings and although I don't agree with all of it (probably due to my non-enlightened mind) most of it agrees with me, I am not always fond of buddhist teachings, but I think this is due to me taking them the wrong way or being offended by them, when it is only trying to make me 'see'- the teachings are detailed and all free to read on the internet.
You can see it here
http://godsdirectcontact.org
Let me know what you think,:)
L&L
Sig
RE: Quan Yin Method Supreme Master Ching Hai
Daer Siggy,
The initiation is free .the group itself can be hard to get into in a sense if you are an english speaker because of where it origonates.However that should not be a problem where you are and it is being offered to you.Obviuosly further investigations and questions on your part are necessary to be comfortable though if it does not feel okay to you then you have to trust your own intuition in this matter.
The 5 precepts ie no alcohol etc are a normal part of initiation in tibetan buddhism particualarly when you take refuge formally in the Buddha though the precepts are well known the world over .
So it is a big step to be asked to and agree to these in order to have the initiation.So you do have to think carefully and seriously about following this path at this time in your life.You could have the initiation and then carry on in your life as you would normally but agreeing to something like this should not be entered in to lightly.
The precepts in themselvers challenge us to be aware of our everyday lives and very simply make us aware of our everyday actions ,easy for me as I am a vegan anyway.
What are the reasons for you considering this ???
I would suggest looking further at website www.geocites.com?isisdownunder.com for further discussion and advice to help you make up your own mind.
I hope this can be of some help to you, there are many people who work with Kuan Yin there and are available to give you the low down on such matters.
Gray
RE: Quan Yin Method Supreme Master Ching Hai
My reasons for considering Buddhism? It is the only thing that resonates truth...for me anyway. I am not one to agree with any religion, simply because it is a 'religion' - I don't agree with pigeon holes and labels etc - but the concept of meditation to achieve enlightenment, I believe is the missing link in my life. I wouldn't expect anyone else to understand this - I don't believe that this world is all there is, I know I am here for a reason but I can't see clearly enough to know what that is. I believe meditation and enlightenment is the answer - and if I can play a part in bringing unhappiness in this world to an end by starting with myself, that's what I will do.
The precepts to me aren't that difficult to follow. The vegetarian is a little difficult simply because my husband disagrees with it, but I can normally talk him round so I don't have to cook 2 different meals. I have stopped eating eggs too. But I still sometimes have milk - though not out of the fridge, it is usually hidden in packaged food and this is the only milk I have. The rest of them are easy - I gave up alcohol a while ago coz it triggers my asthma. The rest I don't do anyway. At the moment I am try to eat only one meal a day to help with meditation. I think self discipline is important, people keep saying I will turn into a monk - but I think what is wrong with that - do they think I will be bored or boring if I don't drink alcohol? Insane!?! I think I have a long way to go before I achieve REAL self discipline, I would love to go to a cave somewhere but I have taken vows to my husband and I have kids that I look after so that is not an option for me.
Thank you for your help
L&L
Sig
RE: Quan Yin Method Supreme Master Ching Hai
Sig, this is a syncretistic mixture of Buddhism and the Sant Mat mantra meditation cult. It is not pure Buddhism.
RE: Quan Yin Method Supreme Master Ching Hai
Hi Sig
I think that if you really feel this is the right path for you, then go for it. It doesn't sound like you're entering into it lightly, you're doing a lot of research and preparation. But when I read the comment below, it made me think...
"The Supreme Master Ching Hai promises that if an initiate practices the Quan Yin Method for two and a half hours a day and keeps the five precepts, he or she will not need to reincarnate ever again."
( on this page [link= http://www.godsdirectcontact.org/eng/quanyin.html ]http://www.godsdirectcontact.org/eng/quanyin.html[/link])
Can anyone really promise this?
There are many other buddhist traditions that can help you on your path if you decide this isn't the one for you. A certain amount of nervousness, challenge and discipline is OK, but if you're feeling suspicious, then maybe your intuition/gut feeling is trying to tell you something. (And I don't mean to suggest that these people are dodgy, just that maybe it's not right for you at this time in your life :))
Take care
Helen