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sunanda
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RE: Was I ever a tree?

Original: Celtia

Although, I am open to the idea that there might be a possibility to reincarnate on different planets, in which case you wouldn't be a human. So you would presumably be going either up or down in level of consciousness

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I think this is addressed in one of the Conversations with God books by Neale Donald Walsch or maybe I'm getting mixed up with Journey of Souls. Anyway I don't remember the exact quote but it's something to do with the fact that we can indeed choose to incarnate on other worlds in other forms (ie not in a human body) and that in fact taking birth on this world (Earth) is looked on as 'doing hard time'. In other words, being human here is a tough assignment, full of suffering but equally of great benefit to our progress 'up the ladder'.

I do agree that it's very difficult to get one's head around all the ramifications of these possibilities. One thing that confuses me is the number of people who (appear to) agree to t ake birth as Sun reading lager louts - if I may use that libellous generalisation to typify those fellow humans who seem not to be aware of anything in the realm of the Higher Self. If we all have been here many many times (which iis what Michael Newton says) and we all get to review our incarnations each time we leave our bodies, then how come there are so many gross people all over the world? I mean does anyone choose to come back with a low IQ for example? (I can understand a soul opting to come back to a life of physical or mental suffering in order to progress but to come back as a BNP supporter? the mind boggles!!!)

No offence to anyone except Sun reading BNP supporters!!!

Love
Sunanda xxx


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RE: Was I ever a tree?

I mean does anyone choose to come back with a low IQ for example? (I can understand a soul opting to come back to a life of physical or mental suffering in order to progress but to come back as a BNP supporter? the mind boggles!!!)

But think of the spiritual development when the person manages to rise above the lower levels of bigoted thought and becomes a better person, maybe even inspiring others to be better through his/her example? There will always be people who appear to be on a higher or lower rung.

blessings
Moonfeather


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sunanda
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RE: Was I ever a tree?

Hi Moonfeather

Sorry - I still don't get it. Also, who would choose to incarnate as a psychopath or a paedophile? (I do believe though that we do get to choose our life circumstances and as I said I can understand the choosing to go through suffering - but choosing to cause suffering - I just don't understand how that works and I diidn't find the answer in Michael Newton's books.)

Love
Sunanda xxx


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RE: Was I ever a tree?

My tutors held the belief, (and I agree with their understanding) that a soul chooses to be reincarnated as a particular kind of person in order to learn and therefore to grow. If a soul insisted on taking on lives that were consistently higher up the scale, intellectually and spiritually, how would they ever have any understanding of the problems encountered by the souls who, as Sunanda so humouressly put it, are BNP Sun readers??? Surely then we all have to be ghastly in human form as well as Godly to see the differences and to accept them?

There is a theory that if someone is a highly spiritual person, who achieves a great deal for humanity, say perhaps Ghandi, that they may well choose to return as a more ordinary or even disabled human being, just to get a rest from all that they accomplished before, and to see the other side of the spectrum.

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sunanda
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RE: Was I ever a tree?

Hi Gilly

Yes, I can see the point in what you say. We can't experience the highs unless we know what the lows feel like too. (CWG Book 1: 'Without dark there can be no light, without big there can be no small'.)
Another aspect which has just this minute occurred to me is the interconnectedness of everything and everyone. ('No man is an island' John Donne.) If it weren't for BNP supporters their opponents would have nothing to unite against. So the BNP fits into the grand scheme of things. (That's very facile but I'm typing as I speak and it's time for my second cup of tea of the day!) All in all, it's like peeling an onion, isn't it? Layer upon layer upon layer...

Love as ever
Sunanda xx


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