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What do you guys think of the huge amount of Reiki styles out there now? Do you think that they are a good way to improve the system of Reiki or do you think that they are exploiting the system of Reiki?
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(@dreamspirit)
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RE: What do you think?

Hi, sorry, something I forgot to mention...
We're not talking about diagnosing or giving medical advice to clients - that is not allowed by law. We mean having a basic understanding of the medical conditions you are treating to help you as healers to give the best possible treatment to the clients. Having a basic understanding of the human body is also helpful, especially when treating clients with medical conditions. None of this is essential, but we do feel that it is helpful to all Reiki practitioners, and it is especially helpful to those that work (or want to work) with clinical patients and/or work in a medical environment.

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(@tigerbee)
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RE: What do you think?

so when you were talking about a frequency at 10cps for a damaged ligament earlier (or bone cant remember exactly) and then matching that, you are indeed doing just what the REST of us do...not actively measuring it but just going with intuition and feel, so it seems to have got overly complicated...and reiki is many wonderful things but i dont think we need complicated.....:D

Tigs
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RE: What do you think?

We do not know how you work with energy. However you work with energy is up to you. Whether you work in an active way or passive way is your choice. All we are saying is, in our experience working in an active way gives very effective healing. Part of working actively is directing the energy at the condition you are treating at the frequency needed by that condition. It is simple, yet effective.

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(@dancing_nick)
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RE: What do you think?

Hi Paul,

Your idea of the symbols is great, reading back I appreciate were you are coming from especially since I am of the Teri-mai Reiki which has the extension of Seichem (we see Reiki as been linked with the Earth Element and the Seichem contains Sophi-el (water connection), Sakara (Fire connection) and Angelic light (air connection)....not to confuse things as I’m sure its a whole new discussion, but the Reiki side is still based around Usui teachings).

we are activating the symbols and they are pre programmed to trigger a request for the energy to be sent to them

Back to what Dreamspirit has been saying about the symbols and colours helping filter down to a more specific frequency does match up with you are saying (or at least I see it as doing). All energy comes from an overall source (Universe, God, etc) something I think everyone here seems to agree upon......... the symbol just helps select a connection to that source which provide the energy you need for your task......therefore it is filtering out and perhaps one day the energy and us will be ready to connect closer with the overall source.......one day 😀

Well, I'm off down to London for the Easter Weekend so I wish everyone a Happy Easter and I will do my best to catch up with you all when I return.

Lots of Love, Light and especially Reiki to you all.

Nick

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(@spinal-music)
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RE: What do you think?

Hope you have a lovely weekend Nick - the sun is shining for you in here London. You are a great addition to the Forum, as of course are the Dreamspirit team.
Sharonx

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(@azalia)
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RE: What do you think?

Wow, it does seem to be a hive of activity here doesn't it?

I don't know whether you might find my thread of interest

'The many forms of reiki'

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RE: What do you think?

Paul Crick

If you wish to start modulating the energy as it passes through you then you really need direct connection or preferably connections to call in a greater range of energies to start working with, but then you would not be practicing Reiki as it was designed to be practiced and it should not be taught as Reiki which is a simple form of self development and healing.

Hey Paul - Forgive me but I've been mulling over this for the last couple of days : (it's gone very quiet here, but it is the Easter Weekend - hopefully the thread will resurge in vitality over the next couple of days. I've found it very stimulating): this presumably means that you think the Dreamspirit team are practicing something other than Reiki in it's "pure" form. Would you like to expand on that for those that know so little - me at least ?

Sharonx

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RE: What do you think?

Hi Sharon

There are lots of different ways of working with the energies, with Usui's second system using symbols it was designed so people would not have to do anything but activate the symbols to start the healing process.

Most of the hand positions in use are not his but where introduced later on, the system is simplicity itself, as I said earlier idiot proof, just activate the symbols and away it goes 🙂

Modulating the energies is a way of matching the energy to the requirements of the recipient, it is a little difficult to explain as it is something that you do intuitively the same as scanning which is the other side of the equation.

You scan the energy matrix and sort of tune into the energy signature of that person and then you call in the energies and adjust them as they pass through your energy matrix to suit the persons energy signature or vibration or whatever way you discern or conceive it.

It is a little like balancing the flows so they match, this can also be applied to the physical conditions, in Usui's original form it is called Byoson you actively seek out the byoson that is the energy signature of the disease and channel in the energy to balance it, this should stop it reoccurring or if you catch it before it happens the you can prevent it happening.

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RE: What do you think?

Just two small questions, thais, before I retire for the night:

Please remind us what FHT stands for.

If the words heal and healing cannot be used, are there any guidelines or suggestions as to what words ARE permissible?

Thanks.:)

Holistic

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RE: What do you think?

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Paul, is "Byoson" the right word? I tried to search on it and either got "no matches" or very obscure and irrelevant sites in German [&o][sm=scratchchin.gif]

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RE: What do you think?

Hi Laura

Byosen Reikan Ho

Byosen is an advanced scanning technique, which can through dedicated practice lead you to develop:

  • Sufficient energy sensitivity in your hands that you can feel where to put your hands, and know how long they should be held in each position. This is the simple aspect of Byosen.
  • Sufficient detailed knowledge about the sensations your hands produce in different circumstances that you can use this information potentially to diagnose disease.

Byosen is an advanced scanning technique, basically an intellectual activity.

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 Paul
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RE: What do you think?

FHT = Federation of Holistic Therapists, Laura.

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Energylz
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RE: What do you think?

ORIGINAL: dreamspirit
You do not need to know the frequency of the energy or the condition as Reiki healers. What you need to do is simply adjust the frequency of the energy to match that of the condition. You do this by using only the SHK for mental/emotional conditions and only the CKR for physical conditions. You then adjust the frequency further by applying colour to the symbol. As you make adjustments to the frequency you will feel or sense or simply know you have the right frequency (the energy becomes stronger and more active) - remember Reiki is a simple, guided and intuitive form of healing.

So in reality, as you don't need to actually know specific frequencies, but you are using your intuition to pick out the relevant colours etc., all any reiki healer needs to do is just use their intent without any symbols or colours. If someone came to me with a headache I could use my intent that I wanted the correct reiki frequency for healing the headache and the intelligent energy would do the rest. No real need for symbols or colours, just Intent that's needed. Surely that is the ideal way of doing any treatment if reiki connects us to all the frequencies. The symbols and colours are merely tools for those of us who can't intend well enough?

Love and Reiki Hugs

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(@thais)
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RE: What do you think?

ORIGINAL: Holistic
If the words heal and healing cannot be used, are there any guidelines or suggestions as to what words ARE permissible?:)

No, there aren't, holistic! I quote:

"Therapists should not use words such as 'healing' when promoting their therapies. The FHT would like to remind members that the word 'healing' or any other word that implies a 'cure' should be used with great caution, if at all. The general public, and in particular those who are very ill and/or vulnerable, can place a great deal of faith in those words, and therapists will be hard pushed to explain why their treatment has not 'healed' an individual's condition when this is the implied result. Insurance companies will either refuse to offer a premium on anything labelled 'healing' or raise the premium accordingly. In certain circumstances claiming to 'heal' or 'cure' can be illegal."

This certainly doesn't show much faith in reiki on the part of the FHT and, as they now run their own insurance company, presumably this is their own guideline. If anyone asks their insurance coverers about this, I would be interested to hear the reply!

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 Paul
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RE: What do you think?

Hi Thais,

The FHT are a funny bunch. They will insure everything (including Reiki) except Spiritual Healing.

It IS important not to raise the hopes of any client. I never use the word 'cure'. I always tell them that 'healing' is really 'helping' them to improve their quality of life and that hopefully the 'healing/helping' might help them initiate a curative process within themselves.

Every client, so far, has understood this. Most seem to benefit from the 'healing/helping' in some sort of way.

'Healing' is an individual process that might, or might not, be influenced by an outsider (healer) but, as said above, might be supportive of an individual's own healing.

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(@thais)
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RE: What do you think?

I quite agree, Paul - 'cure' and 'healing' are not the same thing at all and, when it's explained to them, clients have no probs with understanding the concept, no matter how vulnerable they are, in my experience too.

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Energylz
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RE: What do you think?

How about saying that we are "assisting the healing process". 😉

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(@thais)
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RE: What do you think?

It's still got the word 'healing' in it, hasn't it? 🙂

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Amber
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RE: What do you think?

It's still got the word 'healing' in it, hasn't it?

But

"assisting the healing process"

does not mean the same as actually healing somebody...

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Energylz
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RE: What do you think?

ORIGINAL: Amber
But

"assisting the healing process"

does not mean the same as actually healing somebody...

Thank you Amber, you beat me to it. [sm=hug.gif]
A person heals themselves, we just assist the healing process... provide some fuel to help it along if you like.
I would never say that I was healing somebody.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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RE: What do you think?

Yes - but to quote from the FHT quote 😀

ORIGINAL: thais
"Therapists should not use words such as 'healing' when promoting their therapies.

😮 ...despite what we may think healing is or is not.

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Energylz
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RE: What do you think?

Well I think the FHT probably need to stick their silly little rules and regulations right where the sun doesn't.... 😉

As long as the therapist is not giving the impression that they ARE curing or healing outright then that is what matters. It should be clear to the client that the treatement is to assist them with their own healing process.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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Holistic
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RE: What do you think?

Thanks to Paul Crick, for clarifying the meaning of "Byosen" - google must have been having an off night, you usually get asked "did you mean ........."

And to Paul, for FHT = Federation of Holistic Therapists. Of course, as soon as I read that, I remembered it from previous occasions when people have quoted them. As I'm not a member, I've never been able to access the members only part of their site, so am glad that thais quoted their paragraph above (post # 105). Thanks, thais. They seem to be contradicting themselves a bit though. First they say words like healing should not be used, then they say (where it's in bold) "should be used with great caution".

However, it seems we're all pretty much in agreement on this, and do choose and use our words with care.

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(@globe)
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RE: What do you think?

Hello everybody,
Byosen Reikan-ho. This is a very simple process that was taught by Usui Sensei at level one of his teachings. It can be practiced by anyone.

Reiki heals directly. Usui Sensei called it "the miraculous cure for all diseases". It trivialises Reiki to keep insisting that it simply allows the body to heal itself. All this does is allows the practitioner to not take any responsibility for their client.

It is pointless wasting time arguing about what a word means when there are so many people out there that need healing.

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Energylz
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RE: What do you think?

Welcome to the forums Globe.

But unfortunately we live in a society where laws dicatate what we can and can't say.
To ourselves we know what we can do, but in the eyes of the law and the clients we cannot claim to cure or heal. It's as simple as that.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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