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If you look at the history of the 'original' Reiki (Mikao Usui Reiki) that came to the west, you will find that even that was not the pure/original teaching of Usui, which he taught his students...

Even the name Reiki is not what Usui called his style of healing...

I don't think we should worry about all the different styles of Reiki, I think change/evolution is the nature of Reiki...

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Usui called Reiki Usui-do, Takata first used the word Reiki to describe the Usui System of natural healing. Now the word Reiki is used to describe over 140 different types of energy healing. What we need is a definition of the Usui System of Natural Healing which differentiates it from all the other forms of Reiki as there is much confusion amongst the general public and the Reiki community. We aim to teach the Usui System of Natural Healing in it’s purest and most effective form.

Usui did not re-discover anything. He discovered the Usui System of Natural Healing which came to be known as Reiki after his death. This does not mean it is the same as any other healing energy system.

It doesn’t seem that evolution is the nature of most Reiki systems but perhaps ego and greed. People treat the energy frivolously and play with the energy as if it meant nothing, adding gimmicks and pointless rituals onto an energy system that is perfect already. Reiki isn’t something you start, pick up and leave and then start again nor is it a trendy fashion accessory or a badge you wear. Reiki is a way of life this is how Usui Sensei wanted Reiki to be taken forward and spread around the world.

Andy & Dawn

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Usui called Reiki Usui-do

It was actually Usui's Students who referred to it as Usui-do...

Usui referred to it as a 'Method to Achive Personal Perfection'. His students referred to the system as Usui Do (Usui hand-application)...

Well that is how the story is told by Hiroshi Doi...

It doesn’t seem that evolution is the nature of most Reiki systems but perhaps ego and greed.

One should always be careful not to generalise...

Reiki isn’t something you start, pick up and leave and then start again nor is it a trendy fashion accessory or a badge you wear.

I agree...

Reiki is a way of life this is how Usui Sensei wanted Reiki to be taken forward and spread around the world.

We can assume this, but we cannot really know this as a fact...

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As Amber says, Hope1 (and welcome to the forums), Reiki is evolving BUT, in my opinion, the proliferation of Reiki forms developed from, or on top of, 'traditional' Usui, Hayashi, Takata Reiki do seem to be commercially based.

Each one carries it's own fee scale and some insist that you have Usui Reiki Mastery before enrolling into their system. Others discount Usui Reiki completely, alledging that their's is better than Usui Reiki and the ONLY way and charging excessive sums for anything up to seven levels and more for the privilege of using their method.

It is unfortunate that, in this modern world, most people have been brain-washed into expecting new and improved products which become new and improved again and again. This is affecting Reiki and there are people who seem to want to pay anything to have the latest form of each product - including Reiki.

I have said it before - and I will say it again - I am perfectly content with Usui Reiki as we know it. I HAVE trained in Karuna Reiki but have not been able to notice any vast change in the Reiki that I enjoy. It could be that I am not sensitive enough to notice any change but I am happy as I am.

I look forward to reading the responses of others to you question.

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Hi Hope1

The variations are not about improving the system they are about connecting to greater amounts of the energy beings who supply us with the energy.

The only way you are going to know this is to try some of them for yourself either through receiving energy treatments from people with the different connections or to receive attunements to the various systems.

I could tell you version 10 is apples and pears but you might perceive it as bananas or something else, as long as you can find a system which you can sense and work with the energy connections then that is realy all you need, unless you feel drown to another connection later on 🙂

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ORIGINAL: Amber

It was actually Usui's Students who referred to it as Usui-do...

Usui referred to it as a 'Method to Achive Personal Perfection'. His students referred to the system as Usui Do (Usui hand-application)...

Well that is how the story is told by Hiroshi Doi...

Just wondering if you could please quote your source(s), Amber, and perhaps post some links. I'm sure this would be of general interest to those seeking further information:)

Holistic

EDIT: Typo!

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Woah, this keeps cropping up again and again doesn't it. 🙂

Firstly, welcome to the forums Hope1 and DreamSpirit.

I'll try and summarise what I have answered on the other threads relating to this area...

Western "Usui Reiki" is not the same as Usui Reiki that is taught in the East (regardless of what it was called in the East). Ideally the Western version should be called Hiyashi-Takata Reiki or Usui-Hiyashi-Takata Reiki as Dr Hiyashi and Mrs Takata made many "customisations" to the teachings of Reiki when they brought it over to the West.

Reiki existed as a form of healing in Japan before Dr Usui became enlightened. The Reiki at this time was believed to use the persons own energy and would drain them. It was Usui who set out on his quest to find enlightenment which would show him how to channel the Universal energy without draining his own energy. This led to his own form of Reiki, but this should not be referred to just as "Reiki" as this is a general word that can be attached to any of the energy healing forms. This is one of the reasons why Phyllis Furmoto has failed in her attempts to trademark the name Reiki.

There are some people out there who are taking Reiki and abusing the recent trend towards energy healing by re-labelling it, customising it, applying rules and regulations, discrediting other forms and charging all sorts of prices for it. You'll get this in any walk of life with any "product" (that's a horrible word to use for Reiki, but that's how these people see it).

However there are genuine other forms of energy being chanelled and offered by genuine people. Experiencing them helps us to understand them better. Each has its own characteristics. I tend to think of it as different frequencies of energy, just as you have have different frequencies for radio stations. Different frequencies of energy help different parts of the body, mind and soul to heal. Just because "Usui" Reiki is seen traditionally as the original form, does not make it the all conclusive and only form that there can be. I have experienced other forms of Reiki and some energy healings which don't call themselves Reiki and I can feel differences between them. Having been attuned to Paul Cricks "Gaia Now" energy I can feel how that works alongside my "Usui" Reiki and yet I know how it feels different to when I only had "Usui" Reiki. Paul gives attunement to this energy for free, he is not asking for extortionate amounts of for you to denounce other forms of energy healing. Not everyone out there is doing these things out of ego or greed.

Frank Ayarva Petter provides a whole plethora of information from his research into Dr Usui and the history of Reiki. He has not just researched by collecting information from written sources, but has travelled far and wide, to speak with the few remaining original (if they can be called that) Reiki Masters in Japan, and to source and track down original documentation and in some cases he has, with proof, discredited some of the reiki history (or should that be reiki Mystery ;)) that has been passed down from Mrs Takata.

Trust your intuition.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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And here's an interesting little interview with Phylis Furumoto that I've come across...

[link= http://www.reiki-magazin.de/e67/e1874/e2034/e2040/e2048/index_ger.html ]Phylis Furumoto Interview[/link]

Although I have mixed opinions (I am human afterall) based on what I know of her, there are some important Reiki ideals embedded in what she says.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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Before Usui Sensei discovered Usui-do he practised a form of healing called Kiko, this healing uses one's own internal life force energy to heal with, which does become depleted with use and entails the practitioner constantly having to regenerate their own lifeforce (Ki) energy through exercise and meditation. Usui searched for a way of healing without depleting one's own life force energy. The answer to this was Usui-do which means 'The Way Of Usui' as opposed to Usui Teate which means the application of Usui do.

Usui-do uses energy from the highest creative force- which you can call The Universe or God or by any other name that suits you and your beliefs. This energy is infinite, perfect and contains all frequencies. There is no improvement upon it. The reason people sense other frequencies with other forms of energy healing is because most practitioners of Reiki use passive healing and do not channel the full range of frequencies available to them. The Usui symbols combined with colour provide the full range of frequencies necessary to treat any condition and for self development and ultimately enlightenment.

Why would anyone need energies from other 'energy bodies' when with Usui's way of healing you have access to the most infinite and highest form of energy in the universe???

Andy & Dawn

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ORIGINAL: dreamspirit
Before Usui Sensei discovered Usui-do he practised a form of healing called Kiko, this healing uses one's own internal life force energy to heal with, which does become depleted with use and entails the practitioner constantly having to regenerate their own lifeforce (Ki) energy through exercise and meditation. Usui searched for a way of healing without depleting one's own life force energy. The answer to this was Usui-do which means 'The Way Of Usui' as opposed to Usui Teate which means the application of Usui do.

Yep, that's what I was saying, just I don't have the material to hand while I'm at work and I'm useless as remembering the exact names of things. 😀

Usui-do uses energy from the highest creative force- which you can call The Universe or God or by any other name that suits you and your beliefs. This energy is infinite, perfect and contains all frequencies. There is no improvement upon it. The reason people sense other frequencies with other forms of energy healing is because most practitioners of Reiki use passive healing and do not channel the full range of frequencies available to them. The Usui symbols combined with colour provide the full range of frequencies necessary to treat any condition and for self development and ultimately enlightenment.

If Usui Reiki contained "all frequencies" then it would contain the frequencies we percieve as light and the frequencies we percieve as sound. I can't say I've heard or seen the reiki flowing out of my hands even though I perceive it in different ways. And if that's because I'm not chanelling the full range of frequencies then I apologise in advance to the person I'll be treating when it suddenly kicks in and the light and sound comes blasting from my hands. [&:]

Why would anyone need energies from other 'energy bodies' when with Usui's way of healing you have access to the most infinite and highest form of energy in the universe???

I think Pauls "energy bodies" relates to my "energy frequencies", just a matter of belief, means of visualisation and terminology.

You are entitled to your own beliefs as are we all. [sm=hug.gif]

Love and Reiki Hugs

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Everything is energy, this is scientific fact. Not all energy can be percieved as light or sound or solid matter, it depends on its frequency. We all have a frequency range that allows us to feel, see and hear certain energies. Anything outside of these ranges is beyond our senses. Some people have the gift of sensing energies beyond the 'normal' frequency ranges, such as people that can see or hear healing energies.
Usui-do allows the practitioner to channel healing energy at any frequency. This is true whether the practitioner can perceive the energy or not.

Andy & Dawn

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Just wondering if you could please quote your source(s), Amber, and perhaps post some links. I'm sure this would be of general interest to those seeking further information

Hi Holistick

I will have to go and read through all my Reiki manuals to find out which one actually contains the information (I have quite a few)…

I don’t have a link to give you, but if you like I will go and do a search on the internet and hopefully find one to put here. Or maybe people can do a search for themselves?

I think I did say the story is originally told by Hiroshi Doi…

Well that is how the story is told by Hiroshi Doi...

I always put information I directly draw from sorces in 'quote' and if I had quoted it directly from a website I would have put a link on here as I always do...

Amber

edited to add: You might find the above information in one of the following books written by Frank Aryava Petter's books 'Reiki Fire' and 'Reiki - the legacy of Dr Usui'... I haven't read them yet, but I am sure the research of what I mentioned above was also done by him...

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ORIGINAL: dreamspirit
Everything is energy, this is scientific fact. Not all energy can be percieved as light or sound or solid matter, it depends on its frequency. We all have a frequency range that allows us to feel, see and hear certain energies. Anything outside of these ranges is beyond our senses. Some people have the gift of sensing energies beyond the 'normal' frequency ranges, such as people that can see or hear healing energies.
Usui-do allows the practitioner to channel healing energy at any frequency. This is true whether the practitioner can perceive the energy or not.

Ok so we think along the same lines. I was just picking up on the fact that you said "This energy is infinite, perfect and contains all frequencies".
So what you're really saying is that although the energy contains all frequencies, usui reiki practitioners only channel a section of those frequencies. In which case what is the problem with other "forms" of reiki attuning us so that we are able to channel the frequencies that we don't currently do? 😮

Love and Reiki Hugs

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Frank Aryava Petter provides a whole plethora of information from his research into Dr Usui and the history of Reiki.

I have just ordered his two earlier books on the subject... Can't wait for it to arrive 🙂

Reiki Fire and Reiki - the legacy of Dr Usui...

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Usui Reiki practitioners are capable of channeling all the frequencies if they are using Usui Reiki in the correct way, by varying the frequency of the energy they use for each healing. The Reiki symbols have different frequencies and by changing their colour you can match the frequency of the symbol to the condition you are treating as every condition will have it's own frequency. All conditions can be treated with Usui Reiki, there is no need for other energies to be used. Usui said that Reiki was "the miraculous cure for all diseases". Why change perfection?

Andy and Dawn

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ok. so you're saying that I already have the capability to use any frequencies I want, I just need to have the correct intention. I'm ok with that.
But does that mean that if my intention was to use the frequencies of light or sound I could make light and sound come out from my hands?

I'm gonna have to try this....

Love and Reiki Hugs

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You can use the frequencies of light and sound. Some people when they are healing can hear the energy, some people can see the energy as light. Just because you cannot hear it or see it, it doesn't mean you are not using sound or light to heal. Trust your intuition when you heal and you can use for each condition the correct frequency which includes light and sound. Intention is really important in Usui Reiki. If someone has cancer then you don't need to waste time healing using every hand position, go straight to the tumour and match the frequency of the tumour with the frequency of the energy you are using to heal. Try it and see the difference.

Andy and Dawn

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You can use any frequency you need for any particular condition, but you need to use the relevant Usui symbol with the relevant colour to give you that frequency. Intention is a big part of healing, but you must use the right combination of symbol and colour to achieve that intention.

Andy & Dawn

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Interesting discussion.:)

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ORIGINAL: dreamspirit
You can use the frequencies of light and sound. Some people when they are healing can hear the energy, some people can see the energy as light. Just because you cannot hear it or see it, it doesn't mean you are not using sound or light to heal.

But if my intention is to use a frequency of light or sound that I can see or hear i.e. use a green light I should be able to see this green light emenating from my hands?

Trust your intuition when you heal and you can use for each condition the correct frequency which includes light and sound. Intention is really important in Usui Reiki.

I always trust my intuition and am a strong believer that intention is the key to Reiki.

If someone has cancer then you don't need to waste time healing using every hand position, go straight to the tumour and match the frequency of the tumour with the frequency of the energy you are using to heal. Try it and see the difference.

I'll assume there that you're not claiming to heal cancer, but more the effects caused by the cancer?

Love and Reiki Hugs

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We're not claiming to heal any condition, but I have worked with cancer and have had very positive results working directly on the tumours. I believe as healers we need to do the best we can to treat every client for whatever condition they come to us for. By channelling energy at the frequency of the condition we are maximising the effectiveness of the treatment and giving the client the best possible chances of healing. In this way, the energy will work directly on the condition being treated rather than simply allowing the body to heal itself, which will work, but can take a longer time period to have an effect on the condition.

Andy & Dawn

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So have there been any comparitive studies done to show the effectiveness of your "active healing" against the "passive healing" of others?
Would be interesting if you could share such information with us.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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I'm assuming that you just use your intuition to guide you for the correct symbol and colour to give you the correct healing frequency? Or are there particular "formula" to use for particular conditions?

You may be interested in the other thread on this forum in relation to the reiki symbols and whether they are needed.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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Hi All,
Andy and Dawn, how do you match the frequency of the problem with the frequency of the energy you are using to heal?
How do you know which symbols and colours to use with which condition?
This sounds very interesting but how do you do it?

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You will not necessarily see the energy you are using from your hands. It depends on where you are on your higher path. Our intuition is all developed in different ways and whilst some may see energy others may not, your gifts may be elsewhere. Try not to get hung up on sensations and visions it is how you work with the energy and the results of the healing that counts.

There have not been any scientific studies as of yet comparing active versus passive Reiki but hopefully this will happen in the future. Try self healing using active Reiki and you will feel and see the difference in yourself.

We don't want to mention the full name of the symbols because they are sacred but will use abbreviations. CKR is an earth symbol and is used for physical healing. Matter vibrates at a low frequency so physical injuries and illnesses need a low frequency energy to heal them. Emotions are a higher frequency and would need to be healed using SHK, which is for emotional healing.

This is a starting point. If someone has a broken leg you use CKR because it will work on the broken bones directly. If you used no symbols just 'rei' energy you would be using energy which was too high a frequency and would not work directly on the low frequency broken bones. If you used both symbols, the energies would clash because they are intended to be used for different types of healing.

Colour is very important as well. White light incorporates a full spectrum of colours of the rainbow from red to violet, red being very low frequency and violet being very high. White incorporates all these energies. So if someone has a physical illness and you did not know which colour to use, you would use a white CKR. If you know which colour to use you would use the symbol in that colour. For instance cancer needs to be healed generally with a red CKR which is the lowest frequency of energy.

Each symbol can be used in any of the colours from red to violet or white depending on the condition. So, a red SHK would be an emotional condition that was bordering on being physical. There is a method you can use to determine which colour you need to use for each condition and this is called Rainbow Reiki, something we teach as part of our Reiki 3 course. However if you are not aware of this method use your intuition. Connect to the correct symbol for the healing and use it in white to start with. If another colour comes to you and you can only visualise the symbol in that colour then use the colour you have been given.

Andy will explain this to you later on in better detail as he is usually able to provide better explanations but this gives you some idea of how we work with the energy. Looking forward to hearing your comments.

Dawn

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quote: ORIGINAL: Holistic

Just wondering if you could please quote your source(s), Amber, and perhaps post some links. I'm sure this would be of general interest to those seeking further information

Quote: ORIGINAL: Amber

Hi Holistick

I will have to go and read through all my Reiki manuals to find out which one actually contains the information (I have quite a few)…

I don’t have a link to give you, but if you like I will go and do a search on the internet and hopefully find one to put here. Or maybe people can do a search for themselves?

I think I did say the story is originally told by Hiroshi Doi…

Please don't go to all that trouble on my account, Amber, it really isn't necessary and I'm sure you're very busy reading through posts anyway. But thanks for the offer, though.

I was asking really on behalf of newer members, not for myself, and I did say "this would be of general interest … ". Not wanting it to appear that I'm trying to teach grannies to suck eggs, as it were, if there is no website link in a signature and/or profile, and no introduction in New Members, it can be quite difficult to gauge the level of knowledge/expertise of the poster. Especially so if profiles are quite threadbare, though I also recognise that all members may give as much or as little information as they wish, and change it as well if they so choose.

A search on the Internet is something I frequently suggest in my replies, but I do suggest key words, because if someone is quite new to a subject it can be difficult to know where to begin.

Hope that's all cleared up, so back to the topic …

Reply to Giles

Thanks for your full and interesting initial post (No 8) and those that followed, and also for the link to the Phyllis Lei Furumoto interview – saved to read later.

Generally:

As this thread has grown apace since I started typing, I'll cut to the colour healing aspect, and just say I see no reason why this should not work, but query if this might be not totally unlike colourpuncture therapy, wherein nothing is actually punctured, rather coloured light is used, beamed from a long thin torch with interchangeable bulbs. I've been on the receiving end of this, and it works. Sound therapy is also well established as a healing modality.

Other frequencies … like Paul, I'm sticking with Reiki for the time being at least. I looked at a "variation of" and lost interest when I learned of the politics and bickering going on there about who discovered it.

Holistic

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This is fascinating stuff. (and no I'm not being sarcastic)

ORIGINAL: dreamspirit
You will not necessarily see the energy you are using from your hands. It depends on where you are on your higher path. Our intuition is all developed in different ways and whilst some may see energy others may not, your gifts may be elsewhere. Try not to get hung up on sensations and visions it is how you work with the energy and the results of the healing that counts.

I'm not getting hung up on visions etc., it's just that I know my eyes are capable of seeing the visible spectrum of light frequencies, and as you say that Reiki encompasses all energy frequencies, I should be able to emanate the visible frequency of light from my hands and be able to see it.

There have not been any scientific studies as of yet comparing active versus passive Reiki but hopefully this will happen in the future. Try self healing using active Reiki and you will feel and see the difference in yourself.

I'll give it a go and see.

We don't want to mention the full name of the symbols because they are sacred but will use abbreviations. CKR is an earth symbol and is used for physical healing. Matter vibrates at a low frequency so physical injuries and illnesses need a low frequency energy to heal them. Emotions are a higher frequency and would need to be healed using SHK, which is for emotional healing.

What about HSZSN and the master symbol? Is that used for anything? And what about other symbols incorporatede into other Reiki forms, or are they not needed as the the Usui symbols cover everything?

There is a method you can use to determine which colour you need to use for each condition and this is called Rainbow Reiki, something we teach as part of our Reiki 3 course.

But I thought there was only a need for Usui Reiki? Why the creation of a Rainbow Reiki?
I hate to quote your earlier post but...

It doesn’t seem that evolution is the nature of most Reiki systems but perhaps ego and greed. People treat the energy frivolously and play with the energy as if it meant nothing, adding gimmicks and pointless rituals onto an energy system that is perfect already.

Did Usui teach the use of colour with the symbols? Is Rainbow Reiki something else he taught? I'm not familiar with it.

However if you are not aware of this method use your intuition. Connect to the correct symbol for the healing and use it in white to start with. If another colour comes to you and you can only visualise the symbol in that colour then use the colour you have been given.

Yep, no problems with intuition. Like I say, I'll give it a go.

Andy will explain this to you later on in better detail as he is usually able to provide better explanations but this gives you some idea of how we work with the energy. Looking forward to hearing your comments.
Dawn

Thanks Dawn, most enlightening.

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Colour puncture therapy does not use Usui Reiki symbols or the energy of the Universe or God. It bears no comparison to Usui Reiki.

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ORIGINAL: dreamspirit
Colour puncture therapy does not use Usui Reiki symbols or the energy of the Universe or God. It bears no comparison to Usui Reiki.

But if it's using the same frequencies of energy regardless of the source of the energy then surely it bears a huge resemblence?

Or am I just missing the point here?

Love and Reiki Hugs