Shamanic reiki

I'm currently reading shamanic reiki by Lynn Roberts and Robert levy. Their book is about joining shamanic practices with reiki . It's very interesting. It is like a manual of how.to help clients by using shamanic techniques during a reiki session when energy blocks are found and utilisng practices such a cord removing and journeying.

I recommend it. I'm interested in shamanism but have no training but also know a little
about the terminology and practices. It's worth a read.

Mel

I'm currently reading shamanic reiki by Lynn Roberts and Robert levy. Their book is about joining shamanic practices with reiki . It's very interesting. It is like a manual of how.to help clients by using shamanic techniques during a reiki session when energy blocks are found and utilisng practices such a cord removing and journeying.

I think I have read this book - it was a while ago and I will have to check. If so, it had nothing in it that I could recognise as shamanism. There's a lot of visualisation and the 'sending of light' which fits with the little I know about reiki but really isn't shamanism. And there's a lot of mention of energy but not of spirits.
If this is what 'shamanic reiki' is, then fair enough - it's a name that's been concocted in order to attract more punters. I just wondered if anyone knew if there were more to it that was actually shamanic.
Or maybe you've read it more carefully and can find bits in it that will prove me wrong.;)

I'm far from an expert on either subject but ti have been to a shaman for journeying and cord cutting. The part I'm currently reading is about using the elements, I've just finished a part on focusing on removing intrusions. With my limited experience I thought these were shamanic practises? I have yet to finish the book but haven't reached anything yet about spirits I'm afraid.

Who knows maybe its a very surface skimming way of adding shamanism to reiki ? :rolleyes:

You could have a look at Jim Pathfinder Ewing's 'Reiki Shamanism' and 'Dreams of a Reiki Shaman'. Jim is a shaman who learnt Reiki.

I've just finished a part on focusing on removing intrusions. With my limited experience I thought these were shamanic practises? I have yet to finish the book but haven't reached anything yet about spirits I'm afraid.

I think you are mistaking extraction (removing intrusions) and soul retrieval for shamanic practices.
People lose soul/power and get intrusions. Shamanic methods are the best way I know of sorting these problems out. But to class them as shamanic practices is no more accurate than classing healing a bad back as an aromatherapy practice. It's just one way of dealing with a problem. Shamanism tends to be the way to deal with such situations because of millennia of experience to draw on which enables us to do it (relatively) safely.
Shamanic practice involves journeying to the spirit world to communicate and negotiate with spirits in order to effect change (information/advice/healing) in this world. Without travelling to the spirit world (as opposed to calling the spirits to you here) and without that communication and change, there is no shamanism being practiced.

You could have a look at Jim Pathfinder Ewing's 'Reiki Shamanism' and 'Dreams of a Reiki Shaman'. Jim is a shaman who learnt Reiki.

Any chance of you explaining (simply, please:confused:) how the two fit together?

Very very simply Jim Pathfinder Ewing sees Reiki as being a shamanic practice and does all his distance healing within shamanic journey. He works from his Upper World healing space. He does explain how he works in both his books.

Very very simply Jim Pathfinder Ewing sees Reiki as being a shamanic practice.

Okay, I accept that in an ideal world I would have time and money to read all these books. However, at the moment I haven't.
In what way is Reiki a shamanic practice? And, if it is, then isn't it just 'shamanism' rather than 'shamanic reiki'. If he's using the shamanic journey, then it's shamanism.
I'm not trying to be dense here. I've just don't understand how it can be a blending of the two. What is the definition of Reiki? Maybe that would make it clearer.

There would be much to write about the similarities between shamanism and reiki.

I agree with Crowan (I don't like syncretism concerning reiki, for example the introduction of chakras notion or angels beliefs), but don't forget that Usui's orginal method (known as Usui Teate or Usui-do) includes kotodama ("word spirit") a Shinto-derived practice.

Shintoism is an animism, with deep shamanic roots.

So, is reiki a shamanic practice? Not today.

Did Shinto affected Usui and his healing system? Probably yes.

Can we make today a blending of the two?
In my opinion, not with western styles of reiki and not with "core-shamanism".

Maybe coming back to the basics of the two.

See you soon!

Hi Crowan, my experience is very limited, but I think it's the bringing together of core-shamanic practices with reiki treatments.
Emphasis on 'core shamanism' or 'shamanic practice' (or neo shamanism?) to differentiate from the more authentic meaning of the word shamanism.

So... It's introducing animistic concepts like the consciousness and spirit(s) of nature, of journeying, soul loss and soul retrieval, things like that.

I don't object in principal to different approaches being blended, but I think I'd prefer for someone to have a deep grounding in shamanic practice to then train in reiki, rather than for someone who has trained in reiki to then do a shamanic practice weekend. That wouldn't necessarily lead to a good proficiency in the methods and practices, I don't think.

Goodness! It's a few years since I've looked at this thread. Thank you, Kinolau and Justinbonnet.

About two years (after this thread started) ago a friend who is a reiki master attuned me. My aim was essentially to see if the experience was anything like I experience with shamanism. It seemed to me (and I know a lot of you on HP do reiki and can tell me I'm wrong, here) that as a way of bringing and using power I can do far more with shamanism. This may, of course, be because I was new to reiki (and haven't thought it worth pursuing) while I have over 30 years of shamanic experience.

Having read both your posts, they make a lot of sense to me.