Seichem

RE: Seichem

Hi Hawkind

I dont know much about Seichem but it is very much like reiki and I know my Reiki Master will only initiate you until you have become a reiki master yourself. If you look at it will give you alot of detail on Seichem

Love and Light

Suzanne[sm=sandrine.gif]

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Thanks Suzanne

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Hi Hawkwind,

The story goes a bit like this:

Dr Usui passed Reiki onto a select few. Then Takata, a woman, went to Japan to be cured of her cancer. She was cured with Reiki and she begged to be initiated but was refused, until finally she got her initiation and went back to the USA with Reiki. Because she was a woman, it is thought that she was passed most of the healing energy but not all of it. Kathleen Milner also studied Seichem, an Egyptian form of healing, that contained....Reiki! So putting two and two together, Kathleen concluded that Seichem is probably the Reiki that Dr Usui used but that was not fully passed onto Takata. There are a few variations on this story, and basically, if you consider the healing energy like light being split by a prism, most of the healing rays coming out of the prism is Reiki. The rest complements Reiki and makes it more balanced. So Reiki is part of Seichem.

Because Seichem is balanced, you can have a Seichem (including Reiki) 1 and 2 attunement in the same day without feeling like you were run over by a bulldozer

I've never done Reiki on its own, so really can't personally compare. My opinion is that all healing is healing, it's the people, the standards, and the environment that make Tera-Mai (TM) Reiki & Seichem stand out for me. But then I am biased We're at the Mind Body Spirit show from 26th-31st, come and try a treatment if you like, to compare and see what works best for you.

RE: Seichem

Dear Suzanne,

Dr Usui passed Reiki onto a select few. Then Takata, a woman, went to Japan to be cured of her cancer. She was cured with Reiki and she begged to be initiated but was refused, until finally she got her initiation and went back to the USA with Reiki. Because she was a woman, it is thought that she was passed most of the healing energy but not all of it. Kathleen Milner also studied Seichem, an Egyptian form of healing, that contained....Reiki! So putting two and two together, Kathleen concluded that Seichem is probably the Reiki that Dr Usui used but that was not fully passed onto Takata. There are a few variations on this story, and basically, if you consider the healing energy like light being split by a prism, most of the healing rays coming out of the prism is Reiki. The rest complements Reiki and makes it more balanced. So Reiki is part of Seichem.

I'm sorry, but this story really is a nonsense. Mrs Takata was taught Dr Hayashi's healing system, and not in some sort of limited or partial way. Seichem is one of many Western Reiki spin-offs that use collections of symbols obtained in different ways and claim to be so much more powerful than poor old inadequate Usui Reiki.

In Kathleen Milner's case she says - I believe - that Usui Reiki is earth energy and that this has to be balanced by the symbols she uses, and I think she is also the person that insists that you can't be attuned to any other system once you are tied into her version. A nice marketing ploy.

Best wishes,

RE: Seichem

Hi Taggart,

I don't think anyone's saying anything against Usui Reiki here, or that one system is better than another per se.

As for other attunements, anyone with Tera-Mai can do another system's attunement, as long as they don't call themselves Tera-Mai. Personally, I don't find that limiting, because I am happy with the support I get. That's just me, others may prefer to do other systems.

RE: Seichem

Dear Suzanne,

I wasn't suggesting that you were saying these things. I was talking in general terms about the new Reiki variations that have sprung up in recent years, with endless symbols and wild claims about power and effectiveness, and in some quarters the insistence that a student *must* follow a particular brand for fear of their healing powers vanishing should they receive another attunement. I believe that this is the line that Ms Milner takes, and there are some earlier threads on this board that deal with comments she made a while ago in one of her newsletters.

Best wishes,

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Hi,

You might also like to visit the SKHM(another spelling variation....politics, politics:D) site of Patrick Zeigler at

Patrick is a key figure in the Skhm, seichem, etc story and runs regular UK workshops.

Pete

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i'm reviving this thread because i dont think the original question was answered and now i am interested.

what is the difference between usui reiki and seichem... is seichem and seichim/ SKHM the same? if seichim is egyptian and therefore presumably as old as reiki, why is it referred to as reiki (which is a japanese word)?

<sigh> i get so confused!

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Hi Rosie

There are differences in the western reiki and seichem energy systems, seichem like reiki has fragmented or developed in different directions and this is an extract from one of my manuals outlining the different forms of seichem, hope this answers some of your questions.

Seichem (Tera Mai)
Lineage - Patrick Ziegler, T'Om Seaman, Phoenix Summerfield, Kathleen Milner
Tera-Mai Reiki/Seichem attunes the recipient to all four elements - Earth (Reiki), Air (Angeliclight) Fire (Sakara) Water (Sophi-El). From Kathleen's books, it is stated that the masters and angels told Kathleen in a dream that Seichem was part of a larger energy which when complete was a rainbow of colour. She was instructed to call this Sakara.
Later Kathleen was told by a practitioner that the individual who rediscovered Seichem found it by reading the original Sutras, the same Sutras that Mikao Usui had read. It is her own personal feeling that this individual came into conscious awareness and connected with this ray and its healing properties as they were reading the Sutras. However, what this individual did not do was seek a conscious raising journey. Thus, neither the complete knowledge, nor the correct symbols, nor the full power was retrieved.
Later Kathleen was approached by an array of 5th dimensional beings: the ascended masters, the Galactic Confederation, and the angels of The Eternal Light. It was their intention, with her approval, to move her up from being a Seichem master to a Sakara Master and at the same time initiate her into Angeliclight & Sophi-El. The angels and ascended masters processed within her being the energies of Sakara, Angeliclight and Sophi-El (The Other Elemental Rays of Touch Healing).

Sekhem
Lineage - Patrick Ziegler, T'Om Seaman, Phoenix Summerfield, Helen Belot
Helen Belot developed this style. It is Egyptian in orientation and symbology, and uses a connection to the Goddess Sekhmet. The practitioners of this style tend to make claims that it is the "highest vibrational energy, higher than Seichim or Reiki." Some tend to make a hierarchy of "power" , Reiki being the lowest vibrational level, Seichim is intermediate, and Sekhem, the most powerful.

SKHM
Lineage - Patrick Ziegler
SKHM is Seichim as presently practised by Patrick. Although T'Om and Phoenix pursued symbols and attunement, Patrick's original practices involved the infinity, and the ankh. Patrick believed that through Initiation a person could connect with the energy directly and that this was preferable to the attunement. SKHM utilises a guided meditation / initiation where the source enters through the crown and the earth enters through the feet, and the energies mix in the heart and out through the palms. Patrick's current system also utilised some Egyptian symbology as the person feels appropriate, toning, and is heavily involved with emotional release and blisswork.

Isis Seichim
Lineage - Usui, Hayashi, Takata, Ishikuro, Robertson, Mary Shaw, Ruth Mays, Inga Crisp, Barbara Hedger, Natalie Barton
Isis Seichim is a variant of 7 facet Seichim. It combines symbols from Isis, Seichim, Tera Mai Reiki, Western Magick, and Reiki.

Archangelic Seichim
Lineage - Vincent Amador
This is a variant of Seichim that utilises a connection with the Archangels to activate the specific aspects of the Seichim energy. The system uses an initiatory meditation to facilitate the connection to the source and the energy.

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thank you, paul!

you know that noise one makes when you rub your finger up and down over your lips rapidly... i am doing that now!!

good grief!

that is a lot of information and makes the whole energy thing very confusing. its taking me to the conversations going on at the moment regarding NOS on this forum and spiritual freedom on general discussions.

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Hi Rosie

It is all rather simple once we get our heads out of the way and just go with the flow

RE: Seichem

Having attended one of Patrick's weekend workshops in Scotland last year I can verify what pPaul says about the way in which Patrick works.

He does not use the idea of attunements at all instead he works with the notion of spontaneous initiation.

It was a magical and powerful weekend. He had only just started talking to the collected group about how he works and what was likely to happen, explaining that when one person had a spontaneous connection it was more likely that two would, and when two would it was more likely that four would etc, when it all started happening.

I am not the sort of person who normally feels comfortable in large groups, so if I had known how many tears and how much emotional stuff I would release in front of virtual strangers I wouldn't have gone. However, within minutes one person started to display signs of energy moving through them, then I was off feeling an amazing surge of emotion rip through my body.

There were others on hand who had been to earlier workshops with Patrick and they were on hand to help me breathe through the many stages of the process. I felt as though stuff were rising from the pit up and out through the top of my head, followed by bliss like I have never known.

When Partick started using toning, particularly the sound "AH" for the heart area, my arms raised themselves spontaneously and I had an image like I was in Egypt greeting the rising sun as my closed eyes were flooded with golden light (it was a dull grey day outside!) and I felt such a deep connection, very different to Reiki.

He used the infinity symbol and toning and the mantra "all love" and guided us through a meditation to help connect the heart to the stars above.

It was a wonderful experience. In the weeks after I felt a really strong difference between the energies. SKHM seemed denser and hotter than Reiki. Can't say I am as aware of a difference anymore.

Would heartily recommend working with Patrick who is a very unpretentious and loving soul.

Pete

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thanks for that, pete. it sounds quite amazing.

how does one know, in a healing situation, which to call on?

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Hi Rosie,

I think the main difference, in my experience, is that Seichem or Sechem/Skhm etc healers are simply more aware of what they are channelling. You don't end up calling upon a certain energy per se, imho, but you are aware of it and so you let it flow smoothly rather than think it isn't happening and try to block it.

I have attuned Usui Reiki healers into Seichem and I can honestly say that I think the Seichem:
Made them more aware of what they were already channeling;
Allowed them freedom from the usual hand positions insisted upon by some other Reiki Masters, thereby giving them the opportunity to become more intuitive in their healing.
Both the above make for better flow of energy imho and so that is what I think is the main difference.

So I am personally convinced that Seichem is simply Reiki explained and taught differently to other disciplines of Reiki.