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reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

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hello

i would like peoples comments on the differnce of vibrational energy, between reiki and spiritual energy, and lightarain reiki i know usui works on a band 4 and lightarain works on a level 8, but what about spiritual healing, i would like to hear comments from other masters as well as practioners

love and light

kevin

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Energylz
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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

Ah I see. One of your clients (who I referred to you) said that you had been on holiday. 🙂

Now talking of Yellow Bamboo, there's an energy that feels totally different to reiki. For everyone who hasn't come across it (which is probably quite a lot at the minute) the building up of the fire in the belly is something to be experienced I can tell you. It's not an energy practice that suits me at this moment in time, but it was very good to experience it (and we had a good laugh trying it in Gussies kitchen, there's something I won't forget in a while :D)

Love and Reiki Hugs

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

I am intrigued....

Is Yellow Bamboo solely an energy practice, or does it have other aspects as well?

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

is a Balinese White Magic and an Art of self-development, protection, healing founded in Singaraja Bali with over 30,000 members worldwide. The benefit of Yellow Bamboo is to create the necessary power within you to achieve whatever you desire. [...]The Yellow Bamboo program is a cohesive, step-by-step method of attaining spiritual and personal development.

Ah, I see.

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

Or try this thread....

Or direct to Dez's Yellow Bamboo Information...

I must say the video's are quite..... interesting to watch

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

hi giles, it was indeed a training workshop in bali, not a holiday, thanks for the clients you have sent me, how is your fire doing???

not long now till gary caig comes to the uk cant wait.

dez

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

ORIGINAL: azalia

I am intrigued....

Is Yellow Bamboo solely an energy practice, or does it have other aspects as well?

yes it is an energy practice however it goes far beyond that, we cultivate energy in the hara for use in healing, we use mantrams and meditation practice to build up energy, we do sport to build the physical body, we use techniques to improve telepathic abilities, special techniques to clear negative energies ( bad thoughts / black magic )

so yes it is a heliang system but i suppose you could compare it to qi gong type healing, there is also special meditations for stress reduction also.

if you have any questions please ask or pm me as i usually get told off for promoting here, i am not promoting now im just replying to a question.

regrds
dez

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

Energlz: I must say the video's are quite..... interesting to watch

Agreed!:D I couldn't watch the ones titled 'REPELLING' 'Des being repelled with sound' and 'Des repelling bali student' because it said "Files of this type are not allowed on ValueHost and ValuHost Pro accounts." I was disappointed, they sounded good!

Des- thanks for taking the time to fill me in!

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

Hi Dez

If you upgrade to Midihost then you can have the files you want 🙂

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

Oops Paul, I think you meant Azalia, not Dez. 😀

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

It's Ok, I'm not offended:D

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

thanks for that paul, i will upgrade tonight, i see im over the limit again for package. i have lots of videos and pictures to upload so need more webspace

nice to see your gaia now institute is up and running
dez

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

ok, now I'm confused. Have we got crossed threads here?

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

Hi Giles

I believe Azalia was referring to Dez not being able to host certain types of files on his current hosting package so I gave Dez a possible solution to that 🙂

Thanks Dez

A bit more work to do on the course and then it will be finished, hopefully by the end of the month but you know how these things have a habit of getting side tracked 🙂

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

giles you know confusion is a good place to be because it is not where you were before then

dez

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Cheers Dez. 😉 (you and your mind games!)

Sorry for the confusion Paul, but from what Azalia said, she couldn't view the movies, and yet I have so I assumed it was a problem for Azalia, not for Dez. Anyway, enough of this, we're going [sm=offtopic.gif]

Love and Reiki Hugs

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True. And this only confused me more

giles you know confusion is a good place to be because it is not where you were before then

Apologies to Kevmos1 if we've made you lose your train of thought:D

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I know that everyone says about different forms of Reiki and Dez Sellars mentioned that lightarian Reiki is the one for him and others practice other forms of Reiki but what I dont really understand is how Reiki can have taken on all these forms ?

From what I see lightarian Reiki uses Angels and Masters both of which I believe exist but neither of which I understand to bepart ofReiki. Isnt Reiki.....Reiki ? Just as it was when Usui Mikao taught it, I understand that some changes will have happened over time but I dont really understand how people can just add some angels give it a name rebrand it but say it is Reiki.

I am open to anyone who can enlighten me as I really dont get it, not being awkward just wanting to understand.

I mean if I buy a carrot from a supermarket and cook it in water with a stock cube it becomes vegetable soup does it not ?

And here here to Hal "healing in any form or whatever the label is is under is a wonderful thing, it comes from the source and is of love and light..it is vital and wonderful." yes indeed that is the bottom line!

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Me too ! I need to check out those videos

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Hi Reikilight

What the lighterian institute did was to take the basic Reiki master level and then build on it to incorperate diferent forms of energy connections, you are intraduced to verious energy BEings with this modality and it all comes together very nicely once you have a set under your belt.

Dez has I belive a few more of the Lighterian attunements than I have so he will be able to give you the bigger picture.

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

Paul
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to me.
By BEings do you mean beings or are BEings something different ? Its just I have seen you spell it like that a few times and wonder if there might be more to it that I dont know.

Im still not sure about my carrot and my soup but as you say hopefully Dez may add to the post. I do think that it is very confusing for people new to Reiki, you may or may not know but I am still a wee nipper in the Reiki experience stakes but whenI very first started out I found it a bit upsetting that their are so many things that are not really grass roots Reiki that have Reiki in there name that I may have gone of to learn thinking that I was getting Reiki Reiki if you see what I mean ? It would be nice if they differentiated more for those searching for Reiki.

with Reiki blessings, Reikilight xx

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

Hi Paul

I'm just wondering if there's been a cross-over from today's thread:

[link= http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=367662 ]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=367662[/link]

to this older one to which it's linked? Dez and others have given some information on page1 of this one.

And I've crossed in the post with Reikilight, it seems LOL.

Laura.

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Hi Reikilight

It is just the way I got used to addressing them as energy BEings, they are spiritual entities which some people call angels, guides, ascended masters, gods or Gods depending on how people perceive them,etc. Effectively what we will return to once we have finished messing about and exploring thephysical realm 😉

Whenwe come to the end of ourselves and have to reach out beyondour conceptual understanding for help or whatever, then that is wherewe find the energy BEings 🙂

Hi Laura

Probably, it happens all the time 🙂

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

Oh ok thank you for that 🙂 so it covers many, at least I will know from now on as I have wondered before but not got round to actually asking the questions, I did think thats what you were refereing to but never can be sure till you ask 😉

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Hi Laura

Probably, it happens all the time 🙂

Hi Paul

I've put a note on the end of the other one that discussion continues here.

Shall I lock the other one to avoid possibleduplication?

Laura.

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Hi all

Just wanted to say that i am soon to have the levels 1 and 2 of the lightarian attunements course etc.
first i will be having the buddhic boost before the levels 1 and 2. reason being
AS some may know that after the usui reiki the first band, i suppose speaking in terms of energy, there then is the karuna based reiki known as the second band.

and of course the lightarian which is known as the third to eighth band.

Because i choose to jump from the usui first band(currently a reiki master.)to the lightarian band, i miss out the karuna band, therefore needing should i say the buddhic boost !, bridge!, to prepare for the lightarian energy attunements otherwise the attunement maybe too strong.(i suppose like jumping from usui reiki 1 to the masters ?)[sm=scratchchin.gif]

Iunderstand there are 4 more attunements left to the final level.if all goes well i will continue throgh these too.

Phew !, does all that make sense ?:eek:im just saying what my teacher decribes about it.

I dont know much about the lightarian course, and cannot go indepth here, i am drawn to it and am looking forward to the experience.but all i can say that when i have recieved the buddhic boost, attunements etc, i will post back as to my experiences and healing energy etc.

but i posted on a seperate thread earlier asking anyone else who may have had these attunements, what was their experiences etc.but this thread was kindlysent in my direction by holistic. whichhas helped greatly for a start.

thanks all

blessings

sacrel

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Hi Laura

I have locked it so it can continue here 🙂

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

Thanks, Paul, I had to log out earlier while awaiting a reply. sacrel found us OK anyway 😉

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

Hi all, one thing I have found is that many people who go on to other 'reiki' systems have not even fully explored the Usui system of reiki before trying other systems. Why??? The Usui system really does have it all and access to any energy is possible as it attunes you to the source of the highest energy ever!

People don't seem to grasp this and do not use Usui reiki properly so then go seeking other methods of healing as they become disillusioned at not being able to use the energies from this system due to either not being taught correctly or from a lack of understanding those teachings.

Personally, I cannot see how Lighterian reiki etc can claim to be higher than Usui reiki because by applying the logic of the Lighterian system then there must be a system that is in an even higher 'band' than Lighterian!

I have also noticed that the majority of new energy systems calling themselves reiki (and other non reiki names) have been 'discovered' or created by someone who has previously studied or being attuned to Usui reiki. In my opinion, what these people 'discover' is a portion or energy range that is from within Usui's original reiki system. When I have given people traditional Usui reiki treatments, some people have commented on how it feels like energy from other systems despite me having no knowledge or being attuned to these systems. I always tell them that this is because Usui reiki encompasses all energy, highest to lowest and everything in between.

That said, Usui simply became aware of the energies that have always been there unchanging. His system, however, enabled other people to become aware (or attuned) to the energies too. Other systems can undoubtedly access these same energies as they are there for all to experience, the fact remains though that the Usui system was the first (publicly avaiable) system that enables people to use this system.

Therefore, all other systems are simply taking Usui's system of healing and adding other methods and interpretations onto this. It would be like me being given the recipe for Coca Cola and then copying it, adding a lemon taste to it (because I like lemons) and calling it Darren Coca Cola, with lemon.

Same great taste, copied time and again.

Darren

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RE: reiki VS spiritual healing vS lightarain reiki

sacrel

i hope you enjoy lightarian as much as i did some 4-5 years ago, no symbols, and teh divine healing chamber works really well, thats at the last level

dez

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Hi Darren

Unfortunately not everyone can work with the Reikimodality so they have to go looking for a system that will resonate with them, no one energy modality has it all.

Not everyone can work the symbols and need a different way of connecting with the energies, just as we are all different it is the same on the spiritual plane, when someone goes looking for something that does not exist yet then energy BEings of a like mindedness or consciousness respond and you have a new energy modality.

Some people will take an existing modality or two and use them as a stepping stone to help them make the original contact and expand their awareness so they then know what they are seeking.

I know when I go to health fares and people who can heal ask me the difference, I just channel the different forms of energy so they can get a sense of what each modality feels like, the majority of healers do sense differences between the different forms of energy produced.

Unfortunately until you try some of the different energy modalitiesyou will not perceive this, if you take a ford escort carand put in an engine out of acoswalt with a supercharge bolted on, is it still a ford escort, or would you be justified in calling it a an escort/whatever you deem to call it? it would still look like an escort but it would notperform like one.

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