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Hi Dragon

A long post with a few misconceptions IMO.

Reiki is not, I repeat not a healing modality, yes it is portrayed in the west as that but that is not its main function, reiki is one of the paths of spiritual enlightenment where a person is introduced to the higher energy beings who will work both with them and through them to attain their life purpose.

Healing is a by-product of this connection to the energy beings and often grows as you progress along your journey and both yourself and the energy beings become more aligned with each other, though it is often immaterial to the level you are at or length of physical time the connection has been held

The connections are all done in the spiritual realm and any adjustments are done in our energy matrixes and if anyone should be unfortunate enough to have repercussions in the physical then these can be stopped anytime they want as they are not necessary to the process and neither is a 21 day detox relevant.

Other energies yes there are plenty but most people would become instant aware if they connected a lower energy being from a lower dimension who wished to try and relive their physical experiences through them rather than lead them onto higher levels and fill them with love and light, they would indeed probably feel heavy and lethargic, possibly a little paranoid etc. so would quite rightly tell it or them to go to the light and seek a higher energy being to work with.

Time is immaterial in the spiritual realm so any attunements received regardless of any physical time we may place upon them here are all done at once in the spiritual realm.

So I think what people should perhaps ask themselves before they decide to take on reiki or any other form of an energy connection is:

• Am I ready to start achieving and living my life purpose now.
• Am I ready to consciously connect with higher energy beings and allow them to work both with me and through me to achieve my goals.
• Am I ready to serve in the light.

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Dragon,

I'm afraid I found certain points of yours quite offensive:

Indeed there has been drunks drug addicts and worse who have ben attuned to reiki. And so their karma is passed onto the oblivous client who goes to them for healing.

What if people like this want to attune to Reiki in order to begin a healing/spiritual path themselves? I think I see what you meant, but it sounds as if you want Reiki for people without any problems in the world - people devoid of any physical, mental, emotional or addiction problems - and I'm afraid no such person exists.

I think we all need a bit of Reiki, and as it translates as universal life force/energy/love, I think everyone deserves to have it if they wish.

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Paul C
good to see your postings make sense as always

be well my friend
dez

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Hi Dez

I thought you had emigrated or something

Nice to see you are still around, been busy I suspect like the rest of us, happy channelling.

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Hi Everyone,

Nice to see Dez & Paul C about again.

Must say I agree with Red Bess and Paul C.

I have been busy and have been trying to formulate a response to Dragon's posting.

Your posting is VERY controversial, Dragon. I have posted in another topic my views on the irrelevance of the need for protection.

In my opinion it is arrogant for any Reiki Master to judge when or if a prospective student is 'ready' for any Reiki level. The ONLY person who knows when they are 'ready' is the student themselves. Reiki, as has been said, is a personal spiritual development (with healing as a byproduct) and, being personal, develops as the person develops.

I regret having to take anyone to task over Reiki. Unfortunately everyone has their own beliefs which colour their views and teaching of Reiki but Reiki is beautifully simple and should be taught as such without these worrying myths and personal adulterations.

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Dear Paul

ORIGINAL: Paul

Must say I agree with Red Bess and Paul C.

I have been busy and have been trying to formulate a response to Dragon's posting.

Hear, hear Paul, and thank you for putting it all into perspective. I totally agree with what has been said by all in reply to Dragon’s post. Much of it is IMHO extremely misleading. My main concern was that new members and those considering Reiki for themselves might take this as gospel, and be “put off” Reiki. Hopefully this unanimous (so far) response will redress the balance.

The need (or not) for protection, the teaching of Reiki, and the decision of the individual to proceed in Reiki in their own time and space, have indeed been discussed in other threads, as have matters such as the provision of comprehensive manuals and the ongoing support of a Reiki Master.

The only small rider I wish to add generally is that, while we are all agreed that Reiki is primarily a spiritual practice with healing “as a by product” as you say, in the main I have found this working almost the other way round for my students. In other words, they have come to be taught and attuned because they want to be able to heal, and the personal development follows on from that, most especially for Reiki 1. Another, which is perfectly acceptable to me, is that they just feel drawn to Reiki but are not quite sure why!

Holistic

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[sm=wave.gif] Just wanted to say I agree with Paul. Keep it simple.

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Hang on one min hee, I recon u are over reacting here, I am saying the Student should know ehen (they) are ready. That tere are many people out there wantign to be masters to make a quick and easy profit.

This concept in my eyes is very wrong. Reiki is to be respected and to be given out with love and compassion.

Also The people who take drugs and alcoholics yes they should be healed if they want, this is not what I am meaning

healy tyourself before you heal others

Love and Blessings
Dragon

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Hallo Dragon, I've been interested in this thread that you've started. (First of all, I get the sense that you are enthusiastic and a great communicator, but I had difficulty making sense of your postings because of your spelling. For instance I was wondering what on earth you meant by "mordality", until Paul Crick cleared it up. And "vounerable"? Vulnerable, and "emmotionals" only got one m......... I hope you don't think me rude, but it might be a good idea to run a spell-check over your posts. I found it difficult enough thinking about what you were actually saying, without the fogging up of our wonderful language).

I've found this web-site a great aid to my understanding of what Reiki actually is: I was drawn to Reiki, and have been practicing it for a fair while before finding this fund of experience and knowledge that's on HP. I agree with you that many people practice it without knowing a heck of a lot about it. I'm a prime example, but I want to learn, and so am enjoying following this discussion amongst others.

I've found it completely safe, spiritually enriching, and kindness itself, and have never felt diminished by anyone's energy during my time with Reiki. (I'm still prone to colds etc and sometimes feel run-down, but that's life, not anyone's bad energy. I can rely on Reiki to bouy me up, not run me down).

I'd like to say thank you to the two Pauls and Holistic for their informative comments (here and everywhere else on the forum).

Sharon.

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Hi there,

Many different thoughts on Reiki - interesting...

I now interview each potential student carefully. I used to think that every Reiki student can decide if they are ready, but now I'd rather advise someone to wait. I think part of my duty as a teacher is to impart the beauty of this energy and the peace that the teachings and self-healing can give to the student. If they're not interested, then it will be an opportunity missed, and they will not necessarily respect it. So they might as well wait till the time is right, rather than just doing it for a nice day out with candles and crystals, or to make a quick buck (as if)...

What do you think?

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Hi All,

As has been said, most students take Reiki lessons because they want to heal or help others and, only when the lessons are completed do they realise that their spiritual journey has progressed (ie they are being healed). It is THEIR spiritual development and, I say again, it is in my opinion of the utmost arrogance for anyone else to tell them they are not ready when they, themselves, believe themselves to be ready.

However, it is NOT our duty as a teachers to impart the beauty of this energy BUT to make them aware that they have always been connected to the Energy and to teach them to relax sufficiently to feel the subtle indications of the connection to - and the flow of - that Energy. Also, to make them aware that they can use their connection to the Energy for their own benefit and the benefit of others.

The Energy which is everywhere, all-embracing and running through everything is not something to be feared. It is our birth-right to have and to use this Energy as we wish. It is the unlimited bounty of the Universe and beyond that can, and does, provide for each one of us beyond our wildest dreams. Hence there is no need for protection.

It is up to the student whether they use Reiki for themselves only, for others or not at all. I would not refuse to Attune anyone to any level if they believed that they were ready to proceed.

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Reply to Ithar Dragonspirit

You said:

Hang on one min hee, I recon u are over reacting here, I am saying the Student should know ehen (they) are ready. That tere are many people out there wantign to be masters to make a quick and easy profit.

I see no overreaction in any of the replies to your original post. On the contrary, I see thoughtful, measured responses from people with considerable experience of Reiki. If I leave my own earlier contribution out of it, both Paul and Paul Crick are well-respected Reiki Masters, and both are moderators on this forum, well experienced in that area also. The fact that they and others seem to be in agreement about your post cannot be mere coincidence.

If you have a look in the Comments and Suggestions forum, you will find a thread on spell checkers. There does not seem to be one built into HP, but there is a link to a download, and one member has shared that she types in Word, uses the spell check there, and then pastes into the HP reply window. I hope this is helpful.

Reply to spinal music

Thank you for your kind comments about my posts – very much appreciated. I loved your description of Reiki, too, very well said.

Reply to New Age London

A tricky one, advising people to wait [sm=scratchchin.gif]… at the end of the day, as has already been agreed, it is up to the individuals concerned, both the RM and the student. I take the view, and I’m sorry if it sounds arrogant, that if they really think they want to go ahead before they’re “ready” (and what is “ready” anyway?) and after I have pointed out potential problems, then they are probably as “safe” with me as anywhere. I had one student who gave himself a hard time by rushing to do Reiki 2 very soon after Reiki 1, and at some level that might have been just the lesson he needed to learn. Another time, another person with Reiki 1 ... I said I would not attune to 2 and 3 simultaneously. I think each case must be considered individually.

Again, who am I to judge the motive of another, provided it is within the law, of course?! If they’re out to make a fast buck, it might be one of their lessons in life to find out that it might not work out that way. There’s the well-known saying: Be careful what you ask for – you might get it!

Reply to Paul

I agree with you about 99% on protection! There has been the odd occasion, though, when my intuition has told me it would be a good idea, and I’ve gone with it. Not nasty people, not evil spirits or any of that, just chronically ill and/or needy and negative. Reiki given was unaffected.

Holistic

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I have to say that i personally believe that protection is very important. Especially for possible exchanges of negative and personal energies.
I know that it is not usual for protection to be taught with Reiki but i have read of many having experiences to the contrary.

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I decided on reiki primarily to help myself as i didnt even twig that you use it on other people!! I do have to admit though that as soon as I was attuned, as the R1 weekend was primarily focused on giving reiki to yourself AND family/friends, I immediately felt obliged to use it on others rather than myself...I now realise that my lesson here was that I needed to use it primarily for me first, so that is what I now try to do. however when you see others in need it is soooo tempting to offer and then spend more time channelling it out rather than focusing on myself!
I know I have an inner compulsion to help others, which surprisingly, is a bit of a downfall in my case, as I forget to give some to myself!! I actually find that I do not need to use hand positions on myself, as i generally ask for healing to flow to me whilst I sleep ( i know i wont block it out then and am more relaxed - obviously!).

I certainly was drawn to reiki, and another admission is that I certainly did look at the financial gains i could make through offering it to others, but it just doesnt sit right with me sometimes, I rarely take money for sessions (certainly not for distance work), and if I do I feel guilty but glad at the same time!!! Oooo errrr!!![sm=scratchchin.gif] I am trying to learn the balance between giving and receiving.

I am more aware of the fact that Reiki has led me to so many other areas of spirituality, and healing....I absolutely love giving to and receiving reiki from my cat..she is really good at it!! I progressed at a slight tangent, at one point, towards learning animal communications which allows me to hear when animals, rather than people, want healing, and how they want it!

I decided on reiki as a means to cure my depression..and I know for a fact that it helped immensely, and yet did not affect my RM in the slightest!!!!
I do think that the brushing technique solves the problem of holding onto any of your client's energy that inadvertantly remains within your own aura at the end of the session or lesson.

I do feel that reiki protects me in many ways..yes it is a magnet that draws in some "negativity" but to me negativity is an energy thirsty for love and isnt that what reiki is...love???? I thought that was the point!!!

Sorry that this post is a little disjointed! I just felt a need to write for some reason, but perhaps I won't leave it till after midnight next time!

love and light to all
tiger xx

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Yeh my spelling can be bad, and there does not seem to be a spell check on here[:'(]

O apologise for offendign anyone, this was not what I wanted.

However there are things that epole need to take account of when practasing anf considering attuning to reiki.

I say good for you, just make sure the teacher /master is genuine enough to help u and can answer your questions. I myself wish to teach reiki though I will do this when I feel ready and have learned enough about the energies and what is around. I do not consider teaching, work I consider it a great joy, to see some one flourish and to grow as they walk upon their path.
I know of people who place themselves on pedastals, they do not share their knowledge on how they got to where they are.
Me I am an open book I have no secrets, I answer all questions honestly and to the best of my capability if I cant I then pass that person on to some one who can[&:]
Love
Itharial

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ORIGINAL: spinal music
Hallo Dragon, I've been interested in this thread that you've started. (First of all, I get the sense that you are enthusiastic and a great communicator, but I had difficulty making sense of your postings because of your spelling. For instance I was wondering what on earth you meant by "mordality", until Paul Crick cleared it up. And "vounerable"? Vulnerable, and "emmotionals" only got one m......... I hope you don't think me rude, but it might be a good idea to run a spell-check over your posts. I found it difficult enough thinking about what you were actually saying, without the fogging up of our wonderful language).

Sharon, No offence to you, but I think we should be a little more tolerant of people. There are many people on these forums who write posts that have to be read several times before we can make sense of them. Maybe this is just down to them typing too fast, or it could be that they have the governments "gremlins" or may even be dyslexic and trying their best. Even then the contributor may not even be English speaking. If you're unsure of what someone has said then it can quite simple be a case of just asking what they mean.

Back to the thread....

I understand what Dragon is saying in that some people seem to be getting into Reiki and other complementary therapies because they see it as the "in thing" at the moment and want to make some money out of it. And yes I agree with everyone else in that Reiki should be down to the individual. IMO, Reiki comes to us when we need it and when it is respected and used with good intent then there is nothing wrong in that. There will always be some people out there who want to abuse what they have, we can only give love to the situation and hope it turns out for the best in the end.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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I have to be honest here and say I don't (as yet) know much about Reiki but what I do know is that I have been drawn to it....

I'm currenlty studying Reflexology and as soon as I have the money I want to also learn Reiki..... so what if I'm not good enough??? Is this what people are saying in regards to asking them to wait???

Angeleyes

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Dear AngelEyes, Reiki is a wonderfull spiritual healing energy, and i think it can in some people IMHO open you up more than possibly a few people realise, spiritually i mean, but if you feel drawn to Reiki then there is a reason for that, give it Love and you shall recieve Love in return [sm=love-smiley-009.gif]
Reiki is an important step spiritually in healing yourself first and then other people, animals, nature , mother earth etc etc, if you choose to do so, the possibilities are endless.

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Thanks Caroline, I have been drawn to it for myself to be honest (don't know if that sounds selfish) but would love to use it in Reflexology too...

A while ago whilst having my aura read i was told I was a natural healer and was completely and utterly drawn to Reiki.... I just cannot wait!

AngelEyes

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AngelEyes

Traditionally, Reiki was used and taught by Dr Usui as a means of spiritual development for the individual and the healing of others was an added bonus.
So it isn't selfish to want to do reiki for yourself. If you want to be attuned up to master level and/or beyond then that is your choice and you will know if it is right for you.
I'm glad Reiki found me.

Enjoy your journey.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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Regarding whether or not it is selfish to want to learn reiki to do it primarily on yourself...

IMHO I believe that as a Reiki practitioner it is the most important step to practice on yourself regularly. I think that many Reiki Healers, or those going by that definition, forget this. But how can someone cleanse and heal the energies of another, when their own energies are in a mess? If your energy centres are blocked then the Reiki energy will not flow properly.

Basically, I think that Reiki healers need to remember that they are a conduit for this loving, wonderful energy and not its creator. This might help combat those feelings of self-importance that some Reiki 'Masters' have. (off topic here, sorry!)

So I think that learning to do Reiki with the intention of practicing on oneself is extremely laudable. In energetic terms it is a case of sorting your own mess out before you try and sort out other people's.

And if I practiced what I am preaching I would probably be a lot more energetically refreshed then I am right now!!!! LOL.

TeaMoon

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To Giles,no offence taken : but I think my comments were taken in good part. They weren't meant to be patronising.

To Angel Eyes
Go for it. Reiki will do nothing but enhance your life.

To Ithar
I'm going to do my Reiki Masters very soon, and your comments have enhanced my understanding.

On the general point of doing Reiki on yourself : I find it very beneficial going through each of the chakras, thinking of each Reiki symbol, before I get up in the morning. It takes about 5-10 minutes. I sometimes do it before I go to sleep, and boy, do I sleep.

Sharon

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Hi everyone (gosh I love your siggy energylz:D)

Ok well Reiki comes to u, as it is a step in leading u upon a most beautiful and inspiring path. When our hearts are open as well as our minds then we are even more strong and confident upon pour path. we ae open to the experience of life and what it has to offer us.

The same goes for reiki. Be open to what is going on, specialy with what is goign on within you. I stand firmly with what I said in my original message, I feel that it needed to be said and for those who got inspiration and knowledge from it are the ones who were suposed to hear the message I was tellign you...an inner message

Love
Ithar

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Well, I started off reading Ithar's post and then planning to answer it - but have ended up being fascinated by the balance of other posts by everyone else!

Isn't it amazing how we all have slightly different perceptions of what should and shouldn't be, yet we are all practising Reiki! Is this wrong: no of course not!

We all have our own experiences in Reiki, which we took up for our own reasons, we all come from different backgrounds, have a different level of education, and we are all helping other people in some way!

I find the diversity fabulous - it's almost awe inspiring to know that no matter what we have done, or where we are from, the energy that we channel is from the same source and does the same thing. So thank you to all for sharing your views and experiences - now that I've read them, they are a part of me!

With Love

Jim