Hello all:
I decided to start a thread on this excellent healing modality, Quantum Touch, developed by Richard Gordon and based on his studies with healer Robert Rassmusen.
I had been introduced to Richard's first book on Polarity Therapy Your Healing Hands: The Polarity Experience in 1991 about a year before my first Reiki attunement. At the time, unbeknownst to me, by this time he was already developing what he would later name Quantum Touch.
Icontinued my sporadic studies in Reiki, Therapeutic Touch, Jyorei and Polarity Therapy over the next few years, developing some methods of my own along the way. It wasn't until late 2002 (I'd been aUsui/Seichim Reiki Master for five years by then)that I discovered Mr Gordon had published the Quantum Touch Book in 2001.
Reading through the book and working with the techniques, I couldsense an immediate increase in the energy coming through my hands, and thebasic technique was very similar to how I had intuitively learned to practice healing before Ibegan studying various modalities. However, this was a much more complete method, with very clear guidance on how to increase andmodify the energy coming through, and how to prevent depletion of one's personal energy. I wasso impressed with it that I bought the interactive video workshop.
I hosted two of these video workshops with great results.(unfortunately my schedule over the last year has forced me to take a break fromthis)Everyone, regardless of their background, was able to do the method successfully (although some couldn't sense the energy, but I've seen this often in Reiki training too).
It was extremely pleasing to me to see how quickly complete novices could learn the method. And the beauty of it was that thecost of learning the techniques from the book was only $12.95! Attending the 2-day interactive video workshop cost participants only $65, and they could each get a certificate of training toward certification from Quantum Touch! Not only that, each participant, if they bought the interactive video ($120.00 US for 8 hours of video instruction with pauses for live practice sessions and lunch[this makes about two 7 hour days]; also available in PAL format), video workshop participants could put the entire cost of the workshop toward the video purchase (so the video was only $55.00 extra). On top of this, when you as the workshop facilitator turns in the payment from the groups, QT pays you $40 per person who paid their $65 for a certificate! It is a total win-win for all concerned!
QT does this because they want to get the word out, and get us all out there healing eachother. The techniques are so simple, a child can quickly easily learn them (sometimes easier than us adults!). But what impresses me the most about QT are the splendid healing results.
Given that my first Reiki attunement was from on of the 22 masters Hawayo Takata attuned (the Reiki Alliance), and it was years before I decided to work with my intuition and discernment to go outside establishment for my master degree (no way could I afford $10,000!), the other aspect that really impressed me was the low cost. This system is very accessible to anyone who wants to learn to effectively assist healing with lifeforce energy, regardless of your budget. Reiki has gone this way in since the 90's, and especially with the internet, but the quality and standards of what is out there is very mixed and unreliable.
Here are some of the other advantages I see:
1. No symbols,no mantras, no secrecy: whatyou see is what you get (although using symbols and mantras of your choice will definitly enhance the energy)
2. No lineage to determine legitimacy (IMO, this is to some degree a leftover Buddhist religious dogmaissue, and far lessan energy or training issue than is generally put forward)
3. Universally standardized training (yay!) &
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Hi Alfred,
It is great to read your enthusiasm for Quantum Touch.
I found QT (or it found me) in the summer of ’04, and subsequently became a certified practitioner and now certified instructor. I read the book, but it was only when I went on the course that it really came alive for me.
I have/had been practising Reiki for about 15 years, the last 10 as an M/T, but felt that there was something missing from Reiki, also that people approaching to learn Reiki were increasingly saying that their were put off by Reiki’s
religious background,
secret attunements,
seemingly hierarchical teaching system,
its reliance on the use of superstitiously seeming symbols,
general and
specific over-mystification, angels, ascended masters, spirit guides etc.
What I like about Quantum-Touch is that it is a healing technique for everyone.
The teaching is simple
It is easy to learn
There are no secret attunements
There is no need for symbols
There are no ‘masters’ e.g. hierarchy
Once you have been on a basic or interactive course, that’s it, no further courses costing hundreds of £’s to attend to have the privilege serving the world population.
You can see immediate effects, (imo it works 3x faster than Reiki and 2X as fast)
And best of all no Reiki Masters egos to deal with.
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I would love to do quantum touch but am near Glasgow and havent found anyone local who teaches it, am also looking to do bio energy and sekhem by the end of the year.
Pauline
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Hi Pauline,
I do sekhem, and thought about doing Quantum Touch. Ifound someone in west lothian, thats not far from you:
[link= http://www.atouchofsoul.co.uk/ ]http://www.atouchofsoul.co.uk/[/link]
I know that she runs weekend video workshops.
Hope this helps
[sm=love-smiley-009.gif]deb
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Thanks that looks great only problem is Im a non driver, there is a bus from Wishaw to Livingston but its Saturday only and there is also a train from Cleland that goes to Livingston but its also Saturday only which is a pain.
I will see if I can manage round it somehow
Pauline
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Glasgow seems a great place to hold a interactive video or live basic training! WHy not contact QT admin on the web page (I think its admin@quantumtouch.com ) to see what could be done.
BLessings,
Alfred
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Yes I will Glasgow is easy to get to even on a Sunday. Ta
Pauline
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Its good to hear your opinions on QT. I've been thinking about taking a course/workshop in it for about a year now. Its particularly helpful to find that it complements reiki in such a good way. Hopefully in the next 6 months or so I will be setting up my own therapy business so I think QT will be a great asset.
Sue
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Hi Sue:
One really nice thing about QT is that you can learn it from the book and start using it right away. If you haven't bought it yet, I would make this your first step, because it's a minimal investment of your time and money, and you can check it out for yourself without having to take anybody else's word for it.
Some of the fundamental concepts are quite different from how Reiki is usually taught. Some examples are:
1. Everyone is a healer with all the means they need to heal.
2. Anyone in reasonably good health who learns and uses the technique can run run high-quality healing energy and get impressive results.
3. (From channeled entity Lazarus) "A 'healer' is someone who was sick and got well. A 'great healer' is someone who was very sick and got well quickly."
4. We can't heal anyone: the body heals itself (the body is supremely intelligent and knows exactly how to heal itself, given enough high-quality lifeforce energy and time). We just provide the energy and moral support.
I've found these principles to be very liberating, and have done some of my best work assisting people to heal since adopting them.
Anyway, if you buy the book and find for some reason you don't like it, you can always sell it on amazon or ebay. You won't have risked but a few quid and some time practicing the methods. However, if you find the techniques for generating high-quality lifeforce and the simple healing methods really useful, as I'm confident you will, the book will give and excellen headstart.
A new edition of Quantum Touch: [link= http://http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1556435940/202-6087959-1058269?v=glance&n=266239&s=gateway&v=glance ]The Power to Heal[/link][link= http://http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1556435940/202-6087959-1058269?v=glance&n=266239&s=gateway&v=glance ] has come out for 2006 (not available yet on amazon)[/link]: not sure what the difference is, but the [link= http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/155643393X/202-6087959-1058269?v=glance&n=266239 ]previous edition[/link] is still available. It's got all the basic techniques taught in the video and live basic class, and it's a very user-friendly book.
Best wishes!
Blessings,
Alfred
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Thanks Alfred, I'll try that.
Sue
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I got interested in Quantum Touch last year, and then again with Spinal Music'sthread about her experiences on a QTworkshop.
[link= http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=156419&mpage=1&key ]Quantum Touch[/link]
[link= http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=256168&mpage=1&key ]My Quantum Touch Workshop[/link]
Out of curiosity and a thirst for self dev.I'm going to do a workshop in September and see where it takes me. It sounds as if it's (indirectly)based on Qi Gong techniques from the description on the website, but whatever it is I'm willing to give it a go and curious to see if it actually works as powerfully as it claims.
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A couple (who are a couple) of the advanced instructors who developed one of the advanced classes (Core Transformation) come from a QiGOng/Acupuncture background, but that is the only QiGong influence. The other advanced training (Supercharging) was developed by an intuitive clairvoyant, and the basic/intermediate skills are based on a psychic healer named Rober Rasmussen with some add-ons from Richard Gordon, whowas big into Polarity Therapy before he started studying with Rasmussen.
So, a pretty mixed bag, but the basis is usingstrong, deep, full breathinglinked to a certain kind of body awareness to generate and maintain a powerful flow of energy through the body.
I think you'll enjoy it!
Blessings,
Alfred
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Thanks for explaining a bit about the history Alfred. Over the weekend I'm going to have a proper delve into the QT book and take some time to look into it properly. Sounds great!
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ORIGINAL: lionman
I have/had been practising Reiki for about 15 years, the last 10 as an M/T, but felt that there was something missing from Reiki, also that people approaching to learn Reiki were increasingly saying that their were put off by Reiki'sreligious background,
secret attunements,
seemingly hierarchical teaching system,
its reliance on the use of superstitiously seeming symbols,
general and
specific over-mystification, angels, ascended masters, spirit guides etc.
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And best of all no Reiki Masters egos to deal with.
I had to comment on what you said here lionman. I know this isn't your opinion but I do find it interesting that people have this perception about Reiki before they've even learnt anything about it.
Religious background - Reiki is non-religious and requires no particular belief system.
Secret Attunements - Not secret, but sacred. The information is readily available to anyone who wants to know about it, but most will wait until they are ready, before they learn about the attunements.
Hierarchical Teaching System - Only the same as learning anything in life. So you want to learn to be a fighter-jet pilot? No experience of flying eh! Not even as a passenger? Don't worry about it, just jump in the cockpit and off we go! -- So really people have to learn things step by step otherwise they'll miss all the important stuff and are likely to become very confused by what they're being shown.
Superstituously Seeming Symbols - What's superstitous about them? They're tools of intent that's all. You could use a pink elephant as a symbol if it helped on a specific intent.
specific over-mystification, angels, ascended masters, spirit guides - Well that depends on the Reiki master you go to and that is why you should find the one who's right for you. My Reiki master taught Reiki giving a history of the traditions and Dr. Usui, and giving information about how to treat people using it. If we wanted to incorporate spirit guides or angels etc. then she left that totally up to us and did not impose any of her own beliefs into the teaching (So many Reiki Masters do impose their own beliefs though, so I know what you mean!)
Reiki Masters egos - Well we all know that ego exists and we all have ego to some extent. Unfortunately some let it get in the way of what they do and believe themselves to be better, which isn't so. We are all capable of healing using Reiki and are all masters in our own right from the moment we receive our first attunement. The term "master" is mis-used due to reiki coming to the west. Reiki Masters have as much to learn about Reiki as someone just starting out on their Reiki path.
I'll certainly be taking a look at the quantum healing though and see what it has to offer.
Love and Reiki Hugs
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I am suprised, that you are suprised at my comments about the views of people who have approached me to learn Reiki, surely you must have come across some of these views before?
As you say these aren't my opinions, but represent a sizeable number of peopleI meet at show, fairs and shares.
In my view , that so many people have got the wrong idea about Reiki, is not the fault of the enquirers, but of those who run the Reiki publicity bandwagon, both groups and individuals.
Religious background. Although it requires no particular belief system, it most definelty has a religious background, and are we being true to Usui Reiki if we ignore or change that?
Secret Attunements. Non Reiki people think of them as secret, a teachers encourage this, how many teachers tell their I & II students that all the attunements for all levels are 95% the same!
Superstituously Seeming Symbols. Ah, but how many times have I read on this board people being told "ah, but when you are a II and know the symbols then you will...."
specific over-mystification, angels, ascended masters, spirit guides. The trouble here is, that if you are attuned by a person evoking all this mumbo-jumbo then you think that this is the way it has to be done.
Reiki Masters egos. Well Giles, this obviously doesn't apply to you or me, but we have all met them, too many of them!
Thanks for taking the time and trouble to reply
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ORIGINAL: lionman
I am suprised, that you are suprised at my comments about the views of people who have approached me to learn Reiki, surely you must have come across some of these views before?
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying I was surprised by it because, yes, I have heard it many times before, but it still interests me how people seem to get totally the wrong idea about what Reiki is.
As you say these aren't my opinions, but represent a sizeable number of peopleI meet at show, fairs and shares.
In my view , that so many people have got the wrong idea about Reiki, is not the fault of the enquirers, but of those who run the Reiki publicity bandwagon, both groups and individuals.
Indeed. Totally agree.
Religious background. Although it requires no particular belief system, it most definelty has a religious background, and are we being true to Usui Reiki if we ignore or change that?
Well....in a sense, yes, Dr Usui was a Tendai Buddhist, but that doesn't mean that we all have to be Buddhists to do Reiki. We don't have to believe in God(s) or any particular religion to be able to do Reiki.
Secret Attunements. Non Reiki people think of them as secret, a teachers encourage this, how many teachers tell their I & II students that all the attunements for all levels are 95% the same!
Depends how open the Reiki Master is. Like you say, it's bad publicity and misinformation being given out.
Superstituously Seeming Symbols. Ah, but how many times have I read on this board people being told "ah, but when you are a II and know the symbols then you will...."
I usually say that the symbols will be given at Reiki II but I also say that they are easily available by searching on the internet if people really want to know what they look like.
specific over-mystification, angels, ascended masters, spirit guides. The trouble here is, that if you are attuned by a person evoking all this mumbo-jumbo then you think that this is the way it has to be done.
Exactly. And that's why its important to speak withReiki Masters first to find out who deals with the same sort of things you're interested in. Only problem there is that you can be easily put off by speaking to the first reiki master and them going on about angels and the like, if you're totally new to it all and don't believe in that sort of thing.
Reiki Masters egos. Well Giles, this obviously doesn't apply to you or me, but we have all met them, too many of them!
Absolutely. We all have ego to an extent, you, me, everyone. Without it we wouldn't be alive. It just depends how much we let that ego control our lives and how much we impose that ego on others.
Love and Reiki Hugs
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ORIGINAL: Energylz
Well....in a sense, yes, Dr Usui was a Tendai Buddhist, but that doesn't mean that we all have to be Buddhists to do Reiki. We don't have to believe in God(s) or any particular religion to be able to do Reiki.
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...and of course Buddhists don't believe in a creator 'God' per se, and therefore it's not classified as a religion, but a philosophy;)
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Hmmm, yes, I'm going to highlight one or two similar points to Giles.
Secret Attunements. Non Reiki people think of them as secret, a teachers encourage this, how many teachers tell their I & II students that all the attunements for all levels are 95% the same!
I don't understand what you mean. How many teachers DO indeed tell their students this? And what are they saying if they do? That the attunement process is similar for all levels of Reiki, with variations according to the level?
Superstituously Seeming Symbols. Ah, but how many times have I read on this board people being told "ah, but when you are a II and know the symbols then you will...."
I dunno ... how many times HAVE you read that on this board. I can't recall seeing it even once!
As Giles said, the symbolscan be seen online. Or in Diane Stein's book Essential Reiki.
Holistic
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Oh dear Laura, I hope I haven't upset another Moderator, again?
Your message reads somewhat confrontational.
"Secret Attunements." OK, many teachers ( don't like the term 'master', in my healinglife I have found many teachers profoundly more ignorant of the subject they were supposed to be teaching me than I was) because they have invested time and more importantly money in Reiki, try to ensure that they get 'return business', so they mystify the process. The most popular way for Reiki teachers to do this is to suggest that for the payment of a larger sum of money the student (punter/mug) will gain extra healing powers by attending, what in original Reiki terms never existed, a 1 or 2 day course.
They NEVER tell the student that all the attunements are the SAME, except that at level 1, you only put C-K-R into the hands, at level 2, S-HK and H-S-Z-S-N into the hands, and at level 3, D-K-M into the hands.
I cannot of course, tell you "How many teachers DO indeed tell their students" the attunement process,CanYOU, can tell me how many teachers DON'T tell their students the process.
"Superstituously Seeming Symbols". Again, you are asking for precise information I do not have, if you wish I will do a word search of all the the Reiki messages that have ever been post for this phrase. I know that I have read these comments many times in one form of words or another.
Thanks for taking the time and trouble to reply
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ORIGINAL: lionman
Oh dear Laura, I hope I haven't upset another Moderator, again?
I wouldn't have thought so. If we speak in terms of a moderator, we usually make it clear that we have put our mod hat on. Otherwise we're just a member like anyone else. [sm=speechless-smiley-008.gif]
Your message reads somewhat confrontational.
"Secret Attunements." OK, many teachers ( don't like the term 'master', in my healinglife I have found many teachers profoundly more ignorant of the subject they were supposed to be teaching me than I was) because they have invested time and more importantly money in Reiki, try to ensure that they get 'return business', so they mystify the process. The most popular way for Reiki teachers to do this is to suggest that for the payment of a larger sum of money the student (punter/mug) will gain extra healing powers by attending, what in original Reiki terms never existed, a 1 or 2 day course.
They NEVER tell the student that all the attunements are the SAME, except that at level 1, you only put C-K-R into the hands, at level 2, S-HK and H-S-Z-S-N into the hands, and at level 3, D-K-M into the hands.
I cannot of course, tell you "How many teachers DO indeed tell their students" the attunement process,CanYOU, can tell me how many teachers DON'T tell their students the process.
I think it comes down more to the fact that someone learning Reiki I, will not benefit from knowing about the attunement process and will have enough to be practicing with having just been attuned to the energy and learning the hand positions etc.
My own Reiki Master was one of those who said that we would find out how attunements are done if we ever did the master/teacher course, but she did say there are subtle differences between the attunments at each level, without actually describing what the differences were.
"Superstituously Seeming Symbols". Again, you are asking for precise information I do not have, if you wish I will do a word search of all the the Reiki messages that have ever been post for this phrase. I know that I have read these comments many times in one form of words or another.
Most of the time I think you'll find people refere to them as "secret" or "sacred". Can't say I've heard any people refer to them as "superstitious".
IMO, "Secret" is a case of "I'm not telling you" whereas "Sacred" is a case of "You will come to learn these things when the time is right". Too many masters refer to them as "Secret" which I believe is wrong.
Love and Reiki Hugs
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Hi i have readed the book Quantum-touch and tryed on my self.i tryed today for one hour.
I really feel the tingeling sensation in my hands like a lot of energy in them,but i have been thinking about if it can be the breathing causing the feeling.We all know when we breath too much we can get this sensation in our body.
its good to feel this energy,but i think am still litle skeptic i haven yet seen any improvement
on my self healing,but maby it would work bether if i try heal somone else then myself lol.
i try to heal my oral lichen planus lol but have no sucsess yet.
And there is a lot of breathing so i almost get litle dizzy doing it.
Any idea?
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Dear lionman
Oh dear Laura, I hope I haven't upset another Moderator, again?
Your message reads somewhat confrontational.
Upset? Me? No, absolutely not at all, neither as a member nor as a moderator. As Giles quite rightly said, we usually don a "hat" and make it quite clear if we're moderating, and I was on this occasion replying as a member.
My apologies though, on two counts. Firstly, I omitted to subscribe to this thread, so I've only just seen your reply here. Secondly, if my earlier post appeared confrontational ... perhaps I erred on the side of brevity due to the late hour at which I was posting. [sm=sleep.gif]
I was merely curious and a little puzzled by some of the things you'd written, and was seeking clarification. I really didn't understand what you'd meant by secret attunements in this context, and no I cannot tell you how many teachers DON'T tell their students the process.
Having done a brief search of my own, on this forum, on the word "superstition", the only link was back to this thread! I then used Word's Thesaurus on it and got "gullible" as an option, though to me they're not the same thing at all. However, a similar search did reveal the word gullible in several threads. And there have been quite a number on dodgy Reiki masters. [&:]
Unfortunately my own dictionarygives religious connotations for both "sacred" and "superstitious". Sacred to medoes suggestholy, which was confirmed by the dictionary.
ORIGINAL: Energylz
IMO, "Secret" is a case of "I'm not telling you" whereas "Sacred" is a case of "You will come to learn these things when the time is right". Too many masters refer to them as "Secret" which I believe is wrong.
Paraphrasingwould give: "Secret" is a case of "I'm not telling you" whereas "Sacred" means "I'm not telling you ... yet!"
"You will learn this when the time is right" is just the kind of thing that was said to me a good number of years ago now, not directly in a Reiki context admittedly ... it was to do with finding a local power place I'd heard of... and I thought the attitude that I "wasn't ready yet" to be very condescending and arrogant.Then oh my, when I did Reiki 1, thebacklash was unbelievable. From very spiritual people too
Laura.
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ORIGINAL: Rose78
Hi I have readed the book Quantum-touch and tried on myself. i tried today for one hour.
I really feel the tingeling sensation in my hands like a lot of energy in them,but i have been thinking about if it can be the breathing causing the feeling.We all know when we breath too much we can get this sensation in our body.its good to feel this energy,but i think am still litle skeptic i haven yet seen any improvement
on my self healing,but maby it would work better if i try heal somone else then myself lol.
Hi Rose:
Boy, am I glad you use the same handle on the Quantum Touch web site forum! Would you be so kind as toshare the experience you posted there on this string? It'd be more beneficial coming straight from you. Congratulations again!
Also, with regard to the breathing, you want to breath slightly softer and probablyslower (but still deep) and into both your belly and chest (not just your chest). This should keep you from getting dizzy.
Blessings,
Alfred
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Hi Alfred,
I've been doing QT for ages now. In fact I think I recognise your login name from the QT boards.
I love it. I started in energy healing using EFT and am learning how to communicate with the body using kinesiology. I'm finding that teh body's of the people I work on ask for QT every time!
I'm not Reike attuned so can't compare it to that but I do know it is very powerful.
I bought the book and found I could get the sensation in my hands really easily. I then bought the videos and that really helped me understand it - however it was trying it on another person that really made it real for me - especially when she did it back to me and the stomach ache I'd had for 3 days disappeared in 5 minutes.
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I did a search for Quantum Touch and this is the only thread that came up with a discussion. (last post September 2006) Are there any other threads going I've missed?
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Hello Leigh
I just tried a search on 'Quantum Touch'/All Forums/Subject or Body and got five pages of results!
[url]Please click here[/url]
EDIT: Tweaked link
Laura.
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Thanks- I'll take a look at that then Laura.;)
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Are there any people out there learning QT at the moment?
L
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I am a QT Instructor here in the UK, since 2005, and run monthly courses.
Earlier this month, I run the first QT course in Malta.
David Stasin
Quantum Touch Instructor
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Hi Dave-
Excellent! How did it go?
L