how to get through the dodgy feeling after a treatment

Were you advised to drink plenty of water to help your body eliminate toxins?
Water is also good for headaches.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

I hope your attunement is not going to come from the same person who gave you this treatment!

If you responded in this way from a treatment, you obviously received something that was not right for you. There was something beyond reiki and I would refuse any further energetic exchange from this source!

Were you grounded properly after the treatment?

My understanding that a headache and spaced out feeling, and nausea is due to not being grounded. If you have a quartz crystal, sit with it placed that between your feet for a few minutes or if you can walk barefoot outside that can help.

You can also ground yourself by sitting with your feet on the floor and visualise a cord going deep into the earth from your feet and up into the sky from the top of your head, a couple of mins hopefully will help.

Drink water at regular intervals, not a lot in one go and have light meals.

Love and Light

I hope your attunement is not going to come from the same person who gave you this treatment!

If you responded in this way from a treatment, you obviously received something that was not right for you. There was something beyond reiki and I would refuse any further energetic exchange from this source!

I don't believe that's the case. It's perfectly possible that the sensations experienced are through the persons own issues starting to clear, as in a 'healing crisis'.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

It is naïve and irresponsible to assume that just because it is called reiki that it is pure and unadulterated. Anything that you accept into your body has the very real chance of being polluted by where it has been.

Those who partake of street drugs are also assured that what they are given is pure, but reality says that the chance of that is very remote.

The “system” of reiki has built in excuses to explain reactions that are less than optimal. Call it a healing crisis and you can convince others that what they experience is good for them. At least with street drugs you know that when you don’t feel well it is because you received something that was not good for you.

We take more care about the food we eat than we do the energetic treatments we receive. At least with eating we acknowledge that we need to be aware of possible adverse reactions. If we end up with a tummy ache we know that it was because the food was off. With reiki treatments we say it was because of “clearing.”

Poppycock!

side effects of a healing session

What you described here are common "side effects" of a good treatment. WHen your body starts getting rid of the accumulated "poisons" in your body it can be a shock to the body because too much of it was "let loose". The first sign of this is a headache.

Easiest method is to just "knock" on your head with your finger all over the skalp - if the headache is cause by what I described above it dissappears in seconds doing this. Also going out into nature after a treatment ( a nearby park) helps regain equilibrum again as well.

All the best

If you were to have a healing treatment from the authentic source then it is far more likely that you would feel energized, refreshed and also notice improvements in your overall condition. Should any other condition be experienced it is a display of ignorance on the part of the healer. All too often the perspective healer falls prey to teachings that are designed to fit the expectations of the student rather than the simplicity of a unique relationship being formed with Spirit. Sadly if the teacher has chosen to follow the same path then personal growth and development will remain restricted for both teacher and student.
Think what you do; question what you choose to accept. You have every right to receive pure and untainted energy from source when you choose to receive a healing treatment. Systems of healing rarely allow this possibility to unfold. Think for yourself; wellness is your birthright

It is naïve and irresponsible to assume that just because it is called reiki that it is pure and unadulterated. Anything that you accept into your body has the very real chance of being polluted by where it has been.

So, you are saying that if a client doesn't feel well after a treatment then that is purely because of the practitioner and nothing to do with the client and what emotions etc. may have come to the surface, or the fact that the natural healing process within th body has started to accelerate?

Now that sounds more like poppycock I'm afraid.

If it were true, then we would receive a Reiki attunement, and have no need to self-heal because the energy coming from source is unadulterated and not influenced by an "irresponsible" practitioner. It would also mean that any person who felt unwell immediately or shortly after a Reiki treatment would be able to simply blame the practitioner, when in truth it could be caused by many other factors, e.g. simply not having drunk enough fluid.

To outright blame the practitioner for something like that is judgemental and contrary to Reiki practice.

I'm not saying that a practitioner can't pass on their own negativity or dis-ease to clients, but if the treatment was given with pure intention and focus on the client, then it's still possible the client may experience symptoms of the healing taking place. It certainly isn't so clear cut as to just apportion 'blame' on the practitioner.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

Giles,
If my doctor has the flu and provides medical care to me with pure intention and focus on the client, do you think I won’t be exposed to the flu?

If a teacher has a dripping cold and yet goes to school and teaches with pure intention and focus on the classroom, are the children likely to catch her cold?

If my psychologist is full of negativity and tries to change my outlook to goodness and light, with pure intention and focus on my best interests, do you think it won’t feel insincere?

Pure intention and focus on the client guarantee nothing!

I am not blaming anyone for anything, yet I think that it is not only possible, but probable that there are those people out there who practice reiki and do not know what they pass along. Not only that, those who accept anything that may be called reiki, without discernment, run the very real risk of receiving more than they bargain for.

The claim is often made that reiki can cause no harm, but how can you verify that?
Why accept something—in the name of healing—that gives you a blazing headache and makes you sick at your stomach?

Look at all of the claims in this thread! It sounds more like voodoo!
Use a quartz crystal
Walk barefoot outdoors
Beat on your head with your fingers
Go out into nature
“too much of it was let loose”

Why have we developed so many ways to treat the side effects of something that is supposed to be good for you?

Granted, there will be effects of a treatment, otherwise we wouldn’t bother, but anything more than a gentle clearing indicates that we have received toxins from another source. Those toxins that we carry with us will do no more harm when released than they did before hand. It’s the blast of toxins from outside of the self that cause drastic responses.

And I would tend to agree that self-healing is by far the best solution.
Whether you call it judgment or discernment, it is imperative that we take responsibility for vetting the source of any healing we accept.

Giles,
If my doctor has the flu and provides medical care to me with pure intention and focus on the client, do you think I won’t be exposed to the flu?

If a teacher has a dripping cold and yet goes to school and teaches with pure intention and focus on the classroom, are the children likely to catch her cold?

If my psychologist is full of negativity and tries to change my outlook to goodness and light, with pure intention and focus on my best interests, do you think it won’t feel insincere?

I get the feeling the you are full of negativity....

When I started out working with the spiritual world I just had success stories - nice stories like ones mentioned above : after a treatment you are full of energy bla bla bla.

The truth is that it was only because the deep roots were not even touched in the healing process. We especially as we grow up accumulate a lot of "bad energy" in each of our cells. We protect them, don't let anybody even go near it.

The true healing starts when we let the healing energy go into these wounds, poisonous baggages. When they are released it is inevitable to have "side effects" because the body can't cope with so much negative energy all of a sudden. It takes time to clean these out just because we are in a human form that has its boundaries and capacities.

Also the thought that there are healers who are clean of any negative emotions and can be a clean channel 100% is just pathetic. These healers then wouldn't be down on Erarth but somewhere else.

Please also keep in mind that like attracts like. It is always the person asking for a healing that determines the outcome as it is their world and in their world they are the creators - the only creator.

Time to own up whatever YOU create in YOUR life instead of blaming others ( eg. not good healers, not clean healers).

It took me almost 10 years to get out of the ratrace of blaming others when I didn't like the results. It took me so much because I thought I am positive, I am not blaming anybody. The reality was shocking when I started monitoring my thoughts - that was a mess I can tell you.

My best advice for everybody is to be the master of your own thoughts not the slave of them. Start reclaiming your power over your thoughts.

I wish you (everyone) all the best:038::038::038:

Hovirag

Some interesting points brought up in this thread.

Hi Emma

There is nothing wrong in taking a pain killer to alleviate the symptoms of pain, it will after all help you to heal.

Holos brings up a valuable point which is often ignored, irrespective of the modality which is the tool which we employ to heal, the healing flow is created out of the fullness of self, we are after all human beings, which to my understanding, makes us a being of consciousness experiencing a physical reality through a human body.

Although the intention to heal is true, the healing flow like everything else which we create from within the fullness of self, is created out of our core way of being, which is formed out of our underlying thought patterns and beliefs.

This is where self healing and personal development is vital, for if we do not sort out our own inner conflicts surrounding healing or get someone else to sort them out for us, then our healing is being created around our inner conflicts.

I am sure that we have all encountered healers who exclude a ambiance of negative energy and are full of problems which are making them function as wounded healers (I am referring to negative inner conflicts here), yes, their intention to help others is genuine, but until they are healed of their inner conflicts, then the healing which they are giving to others can leave them with some unpleasant side effects.

Energyatwork says that healing needs to come from the authentic source!

To my understanding all is one, we are all an integral aspect of the source, but I do agree that our underlying thought patterns and beliefs which are creating our reality, can have the same effects within the healing's that we give to others as they have upon our own lives.

Everything starts and finishes with a thought, our thoughts create our realities and they also create and directly influence our healings, the tools which we employ which are the modalities, have to work through the underlying thought patterns and beliefs which come out of the fullness of self, the modalities can not do anything on their own, they require an operator to make them function.

Hovirag,
Disagreeing with you does not make me full of negativity. =) But I am certain that the feelings that you experience are tied to the fact that I question the beliefs upon which you have built your current existence. Our first reaction to being challenged is always to deny that there could be another way of thinking.

I have participated in some very dramatic healings, from both sides of the equation. Where the event itself can be uncomfortable, sometimes extremely uncomfortable, the after-effects are no more than a need to sleep or a physical heat like a low-grade fever (less often a feeling of extreme cold) that may last for a couple of hours. If the healing is successful, there is no need for lingering distress.

Ultimately, what can be healed is only what we will allow. It took a series of deep healing sessions for me to let go of long-held hurts and it takes ultimate trust in the healer to allow such things to dissipate. Where it CAN happen in an instant, most of us are not comfortable with that degree of change and it requires time and spiritual investment to accomplish. What I defend and hold dear, even if misguided, will not be taken from me, but what I am willing to change can be removed from my being.

I, also, have agonized over new thoughts that threw my basic beliefs to the wind. Those, for me, are the most painful parts of healing—the moving on to places I have not yet been!

But none of us is just like another and your experience is not mine, nor is mine yours. We each must come to Truth in our own way.

And when it comes to healing, I would prefer that the one requesting healing receive only the purest healing that is available. To blame them for what is termed a “healing crisis” is unconscionable while at the same time defending ourselves for only doing what we think is right.

Giles,
If my doctor has the flu and provides medical care to me with pure intention and focus on the client, do you think I won’t be exposed to the flu?

If a teacher has a dripping cold and yet goes to school and teaches with pure intention and focus on the classroom, are the children likely to catch her cold?

If my psychologist is full of negativity and tries to change my outlook to goodness and light, with pure intention and focus on my best interests, do you think it won’t feel insincere?

Of course, but your statement was that it was the practitioners fault, so matter of factly, without the possibility that it could be the treatment.

The claim is often made that reiki can cause no harm, but how can you verify that?
..
Look at all of the claims in this thread! It sounds more like voodoo!

Granted, there will be effects of a treatment, otherwise we wouldn’t bother, but anything more than a gentle clearing indicates that we have received toxins from another source.

Can you verify that? How do you know?

You can't discard other people's interpretations of how they understand energy to work and then state as fact something that you too are unable to prove.

:rolleyes:

All Love and Reiki Hugs

You can't discard other people's interpretations of how they understand energy to work and then state as fact something that you too are unable to prove.

Actually, I can. Just as you have done. :rolleyes:

Giles, the blame issue is big with you, isn’t it?

Why should emotions and memories of events that have been held inside for days, months, or years cause more difficulty when healed than when they were suppressed? If they cause more trouble after a healing session then they weren’t removed, were they?

You are absolutely right that I cannot prove my statement any more than you can prove yours, however when considering the outcome of a healing session, I think it is wise to question the source of any adverse effects and, again, I think it is unfair to blame the recipient who has only asked for healing.

When your thinking involves the possibility of pain, you allow that to happen. Indeed, there are some who welcome the suffering of the recipient because they believe it to be acceptable!

I say again, healing should not be the cause of continued discomfort!

Encouraging the concept of a “healing crisis” allows the healer to avoid taking responsibility for the results. What kind of sadists are we to subject another to splitting headaches and nausea, saying that it is good for them?

Anything that you accept into your body has the very real chance of being polluted by where it has been.

Hi Holos,

I'm having difficulty fully understanding this thread. Would you mind being more specific about this statement... What form do these pollutants take? What is the mechanism by which they are transfered from healer to healee? What is the mechanism by which they are 'accepted' by the healee?

Excuse me if I'm being a bit blind to this whole thing:)

Thanks:)

Those toxins that we carry with us will do no more harm when released than they did before hand.

The body stores toxins it cannot deal with immediately in fat and tissue to prevent the liver being overloaded. If these toxins are released quickly through a detox or cleanse (whether this is from a dietary detox or an energy healing) the liver can be over stressed and damaged.

Crikey anyone new venturing in to Reiki may well be having second thoughts reading through all this. :speechless-smiley-0:speechless-smiley-0

Giles, the blame issue is big with you, isn’t it?

Not at all, I simply read your reply...

I hope your attunement is not going to come from the same person who gave you this treatment!

If you responded in this way from a treatment, you obviously received something that was not right for you. There was something beyond reiki and I would refuse any further energetic exchange from this source!

which is clearly blaming a practitioner whom you know nothing about. Such judgment against this person, whoever they are, is not in line with living the reiki principles. You say the symptoms experienced by Emma were "obviously" not meant to be (why obviously?) and that it is something beyond reiki, and Emma should refuse further energy from this person. Yet this could very easily be part of Emma's healing process and the energy from this practitioner could be exactly what she needs.

As far as I'm aware, Emma was asking for assistance with how to deal with the healing she is experiencing, not for someone to come here and show such disrespect to her practitioner.

Why should emotions and memories of events that have been held inside for days, months, or years cause more difficulty when healed than when they were suppressed? If they cause more trouble after a healing session then they weren’t removed, were they?

One single healing session could release a whole lifetime of suppressed issues. Would you expect a reiki practitioner to heal all those at that moment? And what about issues that arise after the session that the practitioner wouldn't have been aware of? It is wrong to assume that that they are causing trouble, as sometimes it's the case that recognising such issues for the client to be able to deal with them, and if that means further Reiki is needed, then so be it.

You are absolutely right that I cannot prove my statement any more than you can prove yours, however when considering the outcome of a healing session, I think it is wise to question the source of any adverse effects and, again, I think it is unfair to blame the recipient who has only asked for healing.

I was not saying the recipient was to blame, but I also wouldn't pass such judgement on a practitioner I know nothing about. I would simply deal with the question at hand.

When your thinking involves the possibility of pain, you allow that to happen. Indeed, there are some who welcome the suffering of the recipient because they believe it to be acceptable!

Well, I wouldn't myself, but you are right, there are certainly those who pick up easily on others issues or indeed revel in them. That's an issue that needs sorting out too.

I say again, healing should not be the cause of continued discomfort!

Who was talking of "continued" discomfort? We were discussing the after effects of a single treatement.

Encouraging the concept of a “healing crisis” allows the healer to avoid taking responsibility for the results. What kind of sadists are we to subject another to splitting headaches and nausea, saying that it is good for them?

Nobody said it was good for them, or that the practitioner is/was avoiding responsibility. For all we know the practitioner has advised the client of possible issues arising from the treatment, and has arranged further treatment as necessary. The term healing crisis is used to describe the effects of the body starting healing after the treatment, so it's perfectly acceptable and real. I would say, with respect, that to deny such things and to so blatently apportion the fault as the practitioner's, that one's own ego should be examined for the idea that one's own practice is somehow 'better' than another practitioner's.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

Giles,

The body alerts the defenses when things go wrong, not when things go right. If the body is responding to an energy treatment with distress signals then we are obliged to listen. I would say that is obvious.

I understand that this is not what you have been led to believe, but beliefs can be wrong. Perhaps yours are, perhaps mine are, and perhaps both scenarios are incorrect.

One single healing session could release a whole lifetime of suppressed issues. Would you expect a reiki practitioner to heal all those at that moment?

Absolutely, if the treatment is responsible for initiating that release. But acting responsibly, it would not happen that the release will be all at once. That would be overwhelming and harmful. Haven’t I heard that reiki does no harm?

And that’s the bottom line. IF reiki does no harm, THEN when there is harm, in the form of splitting headache, nausea, depression, or whatever symptoms you refer to as a “healing crisis,” it cannot be reiki. That’s basic logic.

Therefore, my advice to Emma is that she avoid treatments that cause her harm!

Crikey anyone new venturing in to Reiki may well be having second thoughts reading through all this.

Jeanne, I would hope that anyone doing reiki or considering receiving reiki should take the matter very seriously! Dealing with energy healing is serious business and should be given second, third, and continuous thought—every day. We do not give enough weight to what we to do when we engage in healing with another.

Hi Holos,

I'm having difficulty fully understanding this thread. Would you mind being more specific about this statement... What form do these pollutants take? What is the mechanism by which they are transfered from healer to healee? What is the mechanism by which they are 'accepted' by the healee?

Wild Strawberry,

A mountain spring is normally the closest thing on earth to naturally pure water. We can usually expect that taking a drink from the source will be refreshing and renewing for us and chances are that it will be. But there could be a dead animal in the pool which would taint the water. Or that spring could well its way up through a sulfur deposit which would make the water less than palatable. It could even arise from a subterranean lake that has been contaminated by fertilizer run-off.

There are consequences to partaking of polluted water.

Likewise, we trust that energy arises from the purest source, but should it come through someone who intends to use it for their own purposes, or is ignorant of the ways to keep it pure, it can become less than optimal.

Just as you drink from the water, you are constantly moving through the energy that surrounds you. You have the means at your disposal to refuse energy that is questionable. Or you can accept any energy that comes your way. The quality of the energy is determined by how it has been used before you encounter it, just as the water quality depends upon previous circumstance.

Pollutants to energy can come in many forms: anger, jealousy, fear, negativity, indifference, control, confusion, resentment, and ridicule—the list goes on and on. There are also consequences to partaking of polluted energy.

It is possible to accept only Love and to allow everything else to fall away, but it requires discernment.

Pollutants to energy can come in many forms: anger, jealousy, fear, negativity, indifference, control, confusion, resentment, and ridicule—the list goes on and on. There are also consequences to partaking of polluted energy.

It is possible to accept only Love and to allow everything else to fall away, but it requires discernment

It does.

I hope it is okay to add a few thoughts...

It is also possible to allow a treatment for another, in the midst of any number of these" anger, jealousy, fear, negativity, indifference, control, confusion, resentment, and ridicule"
if we keep in sight and ask that we allow only Love to be present in the healing.
It does take a tuning in, whilst maintaining a composure of "I accept only Love" during the healing process.

If we don't let Love, the healing energy be present here in this life in our life as we live it,
how else will the Love healing energy get where it is needed?

You know the saying, shine a light and you can see in the dark?

Well, the Love is like that. It transforms.

Love isn't meant to be kept separate.

If we can allow the movement of healing Love as a constant, in the living, then the debris of what we don't need just gets washed away.

We don't have to wait to get to a time of being alone or wait for a time of a treatment to be healed,
we don't have to wait for the stuff of the living that is not so good for us to be released, it can be released at the time of it happening, in that it doesn't need to become part of out being, if we remember to accept only Love.

Hi Guys .

I have been watching this thread from a distance and perhaps my healing experiences had may help and add something to the pot (or not) lol .

Every Individual that Is undergoing healing will have Individual needs / requirements within the healing energy applied .

No two healing's will contain the exact same energies .

Each Individual will heal / respond / recover (or not) In their own unique way .

I have given healing where the patient has felt an Increase In pain as soon as I draw close to them and I have had the opposite occur .

There are no rights or wrong ways as to how one can react to energy

A lot can depend on the vibration of the patient and how open / sensitive and receptive they are to energy for example or can have something to do with what stage the ailments are at . .

There are so many possible reasons as to why someone may feel like that do after a healing. Some spirit doctors / surgeons use spirit anaesthetics to lessen the pain I have received one my self and witnessed a spirit nurse Implement one when giving healing also . . So who's to say how anyone could of felt without an anaesthetic .

I have had a patient where I have worked on their throat cancer for Instance and lose their voice for nearly 3 days after . I have worked on someones knee and they have felt Immediate relief and yet their ankles start to feel pain .

Energies shift and clear blocks and circulate around a patients matrix that will and can have an array of sensations and temporary symptoms assigned to them .

Of course another angle as to how an Individual can feel after or during a healing Is If the healer him/her self Is carrying a lot of negativity at the time and can transfer some of that personal energy on to the patient .

Some may say a healer must be beyond the need of help In order to help another .

To be honest not every healer Is emanating self love and I am very fussy when it comes to allowing someone whether It be a healer / physical energy or spirit energy come In to my own energy space .

x daz x

OK, Thanks very much Holos, Flit and Nice for the above replies... that has clarified things somewhat.:). Although for some reason that I can't quite put my finger on I still feel slight confused....

I know what Flit means about Love (with an uppercase L ) transmuting 'lower' frequencies and I suppose my innate understanding of Reiki, or any form of Energy Healing for that matter was that it is 'All Good' - a healer's ego might be stepping into the flow and saying "Whoo hoo. Look at me, look what I can do..." (not a critiscism of anyone, just the nature of ego as far as I can tell) etc, but that Ego isn't what is performing the healing... Love/God/Nature/Source (whatever your choice of name) is performing the healing. And so from that point of view 'nothing can be wrong'... because Love/God/Nature/Source , the 'place' where the actual healing originates is 'All Good'.

...hmn, so still feeling confused here... could it be that any clash or harmony of frequencies between Healer and Healee would be happening anyhow - just on a personal/person-to-person level?

I'd really like to know what you all think about that....;)

Hi all,

Just thought I'd chip in here.
I don't know where the concept of a healing crisis came from. Was it ever mentioned by Usui or is it just a concept which has gradually permeated the holistic therapies in general?
That being said (and this could sound rather simplistic), if you had a massage because your lower back was hurting and you had problems walking due to this, its quite possible that after the massage, perhaps you would experience some effects which weren't that pleasurable. You might feel some soreness and tiredness due to the massage itself for a relatively short time (healing crisis?) but if the massage was effective, that would clear up quite quickly, your back would stop aching and you would no longer have problems walking (healing-right!)
Well, thats my understanding of the effects of healing too. The soreness/tiredness would not necessarily mean that the therapist had applied the massage wrong in some way (healers fault) or that you were incapable of receiving massage (your fault).
Of course, that doesn't mean maybe the therapist could not apply too much pressure for a sensitive person, and it doesn't mean that the therapist would not come across clients who were just too tense and preoccupied to receive the treatment (maybe answering a phonecall in the middle of the treatment)
So maybe really there is the right therapist for the right person at the right time and if there is a mismatch, it doesn't necessarily indicate malicious intent or impurity, its just a mismatch. Is there really the perfect healer who has exactly the same results for everyone? Surely, we should just let the recipient discern whether the 'healing crisis' is just 'the slight soreness after a good massage' or 'real damage done by the therapist who was too aggressive and damaged their spine!'..........

Love
Crystal elf

Giles,

The body alerts the defenses when things go wrong, not when things go right. If the body is responding to an energy treatment with distress signals then we are obliged to listen. I would say that is obvious.

Yes, though the body can also mislead us into believing something is wrong when it isn't because the signals in the brain can fire wrongly. Phantom pains are a common thing in many people.

Absolutely, if the treatment is responsible for initiating that release. But acting responsibly, it would not happen that the release will be all at once. That would be overwhelming and harmful. Haven’t I heard that reiki does no harm?

Maybe you've heard that, but not from me.

And that’s the bottom line. IF reiki does no harm, THEN when there is harm, in the form of splitting headache, nausea, depression, or whatever symptoms you refer to as a “healing crisis,” it cannot be reiki. That’s basic logic.

Therefore, my advice to Emma is that she avoid treatments that cause her harm!

In that case Emma should avoid any treatement at all. Accupuncture could cause the feeling of sharp needles and some soreness afterwards; Massage could leave the muscles sore for a day or two afterwards; Spinal Touch can feel great directly after a treatment, but can leave aching muscles the day after that will subside after another day or two.

If you truly believe that Reiki can only be given such that no 'issues' arise from a treatment then I can only assume you do not understand Reiki or energy healing, but that confuses me because I'm sure that you do. I certianly wouldn't advise Emma to avoid a treatment just because there may be some after effects that will pass with time or further treatment. In fact, from Emma's initial question I would guess that she is well aware that there can be after effects and that was why she was asking how she could help with those without herself blaming the practitioner for anything.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

Giles,

You seem to be so fixated on the "blame the practitioner" topic that I begin to wonder if you are the one who provided the original treatment.

Surely you can find something to say that will advance the dialogue rather than repeat what you have said over and over.

Awaiting evidence of your open mind.

I don't know where the concept of a healing crisis came from. Was it ever mentioned by Usui or is it just a concept which has gradually permeated the holistic therapies in general?

Crystal Elf,

I have also wondered this~

Giles,

You seem to be so fixated on the "blame the practitioner" topic that I begin to wonder if you are the one who provided the original treatment.

Wasn't me, and it's not a fixation, I'm simply replying to your post. You seem intent on saying that Reiki is not to blame, so it must be the practitioner, yet you no nothing of the treatment that took place or the practitioner who did it.

Coming back to the point of Reiki only doing good, it is true, that the ultimate purpose of Reiki is to do good for the client, but to assume that means that the client will not experience any discomfort from a treatement is, imho, misguided, and to suggest that a person should not receive treatment from that practitioner is, imho, just as miguided, and is certainly judgemental.

Surely you can find something to say that will advance the dialogue rather than repeat what you have said over and over.

What is there to advance? You say that the practitioner is not a good practitioner, and I say such judgements are unfounded and wrong.

Awaiting evidence of your open mind.

More than willing to listen to anything to back up the Reiki (or other therapes) can only do good (without any temporary discomfort) and that any issues arising must be because of a bad practitioner.

As for whether Usui sensei dealt with healing crisis, of course that was an ongoing reason for continued spiritual practice of self healing and giving empowerments to his students. He wouldn't of called it "Healing Crisis" because he was Japanese, but the general principle of the need to heal issues arising as a result of progressing on a spiritual path (receiving energy to do that) was certainly apparent in the teachings passed down. In the West we call it healing crisis, and we associate it with our understanding of how the body heals issues. It may not be exactly as Usui sense perceived it, or it may be, but as he's not here, we could only speculate.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

Giles,

You seem to be so fixated on the "blame the practitioner" topic that I begin to wonder if you are the one who provided the original treatment.

Surely you can find something to say that will advance the dialogue rather than repeat what you have said over and over.

Awaiting evidence of your open mind.

Crystal Elf,

I have also wondered this~

Holos, I think the reason that Energlyz is as you say 'fixated' on the 'blame the practitioner' because you started this debate by actually blaming the practitioner yourself for Emma's symptoms from her treatment, could you please at least take the onus for this, every post here on Reiki turns into a debate with nobody the wiser for it at the end

could you please at least take the onus for this

No, Star, I won't.

Each time I have tried to expand the topic and clarify my stance Giles has returned to the topic of blaming the practitioner. That's his sticking point, not mine, and he is the one who is contentious.

After the initial exchange Crystal Elf, Nice 1, Wild Strawberry, Flit, Energy at Work, Omega 1 and Paul Crick all tried to add to the conversation but Giles returns to argue the same point again and again. This is why no one is wiser when alternate views cannot be expressed.