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Hiya Flowerlight.

I'm not sure about the diabetes one, IMO that sounds a bit far fetched and as for the pacemaker one I'm not too sure, so would be interested to hear other people's views (although I can't see that it would make a difference)
People having an operation I would avoid giving Reiki to, because I believe that part of the way reiki helps us is to remove toxins from the body and to heal our wounds. I'm sure that if I was having an operation then I wouldn't want to have the anaesthetic being considered a toxin and being flushed out of my body before the op is over, and I could see that healing of wounds could be a problem if the surgeon was currently trying to cut through things and join things together. I think this equates to the contra-indication that it's not a good idea to heal someone with a broken bone until the bone has been set in place otherwise it may fuse together in the wrong place and have to be broken again to correct it.
Certainly after the operation I can't see a problem with providing Reiki to help the recovery process.

Interested to hear other peoples views....

Love and Reiki Hugs

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Hi Flowerlight,

I'm afraid they are all Reiki Myths.

There really are NO contra-indications to Reiki.

The only restraint whilst giving Reiki would be to use a hands-off approach when giving healing to someone who was injured, bruised or had recently had an operation and was sore.

I know others on this forum will agree with me.

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Hi flowerlight

I have not encountered any problems with people who are diabetic nor when sending healing to people undergoing operations, not tried it on anyone with a pacemaker yet so cant comment on that one but as Paul says there are no contra indications with energy work.

If we believed everything we read then we would be stopping busses to buy the polos that they have plastered on the outside

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Hi,
Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding was that if you gave Reiki to a Diabetic it could alter insulin levels and if the client continued on the same dose of insulin he/she could 'overdose'. My feelings about that is where is the responsibility of the client to monitor their insulin levels? Surely they should be checking if they need as much insulin and then see their GP to work out a lower dose? I am a strong believer in people taking responsibility for their health and not keep giving it to the doctor/healer while making no effort on their part.

I must be really mean because I give my clients 'homework' so they do their bit towards their recovery!! lol

Love and light

reikiangel

xxx

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In some ways I can understand the contraindication for the operation scenario- I suppose it's a bit like giving someone reflexology when they've got a fever- their body is already doing it's best to cope with the illness and heal itself, it really just needs some time to try by itself without getting a great big dose of healing on top. (Although this wouldn't harm, obviously. It might just make things worse before they get better[&:])

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Hi,

Thanks for all the comments. Azalia, will definitely ask diabetic friend to keep an eye on insulin levels, as I do when I treat her with aromatherapy,as I think that's only sensible. I personally feel that Reiki causes balance & healing where there is imbalance but only for the highest good & that it complies with karmic destiny. So no areas are contraindicated other than, as Paul says, laying on hands in tender, sore areas. It's interesting that Reiki inspires such a wide-range of opinion though amongst authors. luckily I don't believe everything I read but luckily I do read & question everything

Light & peace
x

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Oops, sorry Reiki Angel, I mixed your reply up with Azalia's, apologies to both of you:)

x

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Apology accepted;)

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PS- sorry to be fussy, but is the word 'mind' meant to be repeated in your signature?[sm=1syellow1.gif]

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We just love to complicate things!

There are no contra indications to reiki or spiritual healing, none whatsoever. Healing is gentle and those in Spirit know exactly what they are doing. Trust that all will be well and it will be.

Love and light
Rosi X

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Absolutely agree with you Rosi,
All Reiki contraindications are false. What is one of the first things we learn about Reiki? That it is safe at all times and then some say, safe but....? Makes no sense.
As for diabetes Reikiangel...all insulin dependent diabetics check their insulin at least once a day....a lot of diabetes in my family! So don't worry at all about blood sugar levels.

Reiki without fear....it is intelligent and works hand in hand with the body, not against it.

Love and light,
Christina

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Hi,

I know some healers that can stop a watch without meaning to. And the higher their attunement level, the stronger this seems to get. So maybe they should avoid the area around the pacemaker just in case. I am not sure about this but it seems a good precaution.

Also someone mentioned the diabetes thing to me, so I said I was very interested in the research which he claimed was done on it. I gave him my card but so far no details. If anyone can find this, can you please let me know?

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Hi,

There are various lists of Reiki contraindications that wash round the world of Reiki, but they have no basis. People put two and two together, worry too much, speculate too much, and pass on their insecurities as Reiki restrictions.

If Reiki was able to generate ean electric current then it would be easy to make a Reiki machine... you'd just need to pass your hand over a wire and a voltmeter would jump. I know of people who have been treating family members with pacemakers for years with no ill effect, and I have never come across even a single example of Reiki having coused such a problem. Last year I attuned a lady with a pacemaker who had been turned down by a few Masters, and of course she is fine.

I am aware of some anecdotes where a diabetic has experienced a temporary 'jiggling up and down' of their blood sugar levels after a treatment, in the same way that Reiki can cause emotional ups and downs after a treatment. This doesn't mean we shouldn't treat diabetics, only that they should keep an eye on their blood sugar levels... which they should be doing anyway. In theory - if Reiki cured their diabetes to a greater or lesser degree - their insulin requirements would change, but I have never heard of Reiki having resolved a diabetic condition.

The 'anaesthetic' contraindication is nonsense, too, and can safely be ignored.

Best wishes,

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Thanks again to everyone for their input. Azalia - well spotted lol x

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I agree with the "no contra-indications" camp.
As for broken bones, if Reiki could get a bone mended so fast (a bone has to be set in the correct position within 24hours, or the body starts mending it itself. With or without Reiki!) then people in casts receiving Reiki woudl b eout of them in a week! Same with healing cuts duirng operations.

Artemis

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... I have this image in my mind of loads of people at casualty departments with their broken bones all at funny angles, set solid because of an ill-advised quick blast of Reiki, having to have the bones re-broken and reset.

Best wishes,

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all insulin dependent diabetics check their insulin at least once a day

Hi Christina, if only this were the case, many long term diabetics do not check every day or even every couple of days sadly...

so always wise after treatment of any sort that may alter metabolism etc to check sugar levels.

T
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ORIGINAL: Reiki Evolution

... I have this image in my mind of loads of people at casualty departments with their broken bones all at funny angles, set solid because of an ill-advised quick blast of Reiki, having to have the bones re-broken and reset.

Best wishes,

Now there's no need to take the mickey....

Have you ever given Reiki to someone who has broken a bone and compared to someone who hasn't had Reiki?

Love and Reiki Hugs

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Dear Giles,

No I haven't done that myself, and while I am sure Reiki will speed up the healing process, I don't think it's capable of making the bone set like custard!

Best wishes,

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... I have this image in my mind of loads of people at casualty departments with their broken bones all at funny angles, set solid because of an ill-advised quick blast of Reiki, having to have the bones re-broken and reset.

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Well, I've had the opportunity to reiki a broken bone.
A work colleague broke her toe (slipped out the shower). Having broken toes before she didn't bother going to the hospital for it and just taped the toe to the one next to it, as that's pretty much what the hospital would do anyway.
I offered to give her some reiki to help and she accepted, so we found a quiet spot and I reiki'd her foot and toe for about 10-15 minutes. Straight away she felt that it was aching more and the bruising suddenly came out in the toe and it went very dark.
A couple of days later she was able to wear her high heels again and walk on the foot and had pretty much forgotten that she'd had a broken toe as it wasn't hurting any more.
Before when she's broken toes she says that it's taken at least 2-3 weeks before she was able to walk without noticing anything.

Maybe it was a coincidence? Maybe it wasn't really as broken as previous toes? Maybe it was just Reiki doing its thing? I'll go with the latter.

Love and Reiki Hugs

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Continuing the broken bone theme!

When I did my Reiki level 1&2 seven years ago everything that the RM said rang 'true' with me until just before the course was finishing on the second day. He then said "oh, by the way. If you have given Reiki to a person for a headache for example, and then the headache goes but they complain of a pain in their wrist, do not worry. Ask if they have an old bone injury in that area and they will 99% say yes. Explain that Reiki works on a 'perfect' system and it will find this old injury. When a bone is broken and set in hospital it is set as near edge to edge as possible and then put in plaster. Over the weeks new bone grows and you have a working limb again. Reiki will find this 'imperfect' set and vibrate the bone back into a perfect edge to edge alignment. This cab cause some discomfort for a few days but once it has worked the bone will be perfect again".
I must admit at this point I thought what rubbish! Once a bone sets it sets and nothing will move it. BUT, was I to have this thrown back at me!!! Not long after I was at work and one of the nurses had a migraine coming on. I offered to try this new Reiki energy I had learnt about and she agreed. After about 15 mins she was amazed that the migraine had stopped, but then she said "well, the migraine's gone but my wrist is killing me, what have you done?" For a split second I panicked that I had done something wrong, then I 'heard' my RM's voice say "do not worry, ask if there is an old bone injury there", which I did. The nurse then said "Oh yes. Scaphoid fracture when I was a teenager!".
I then told her what I had been told and she was amazed (so was I!).

If that wasn't 'proof' enough for me the following 4 people I gave Reiki to also complained of pain in other parts of their bodies but when asked if they had any old bone injury in that area they all did! So, I learnt my lesson and warn people now that if they have old bone injuries they MAY experience some discomfort but not to worry as Reiki is doing it's work. I'm so glad I do because people have reported back to me that they did experience a few days of discomfort but didn't worry as they knew what was happening!

So, the point of this long (sorry!) post is that if Reiki can work on old bone injuries to make them perfect after goodness knows how many years, why on earth would it set new breaks in a wrong position?!!!! lol

Love and light

reikiangel

xxx

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Dear Reikiangel,

It's a big jump to take a pain in a wrist, in the area of an old bone injury, and translate that into a definitive statement that Reiki was realigning a previously imperfectly set bone into a 'perfect' set. Presumably the Reiki Master had before-and-after X-rays to prove the point. If not, it's just speculation, in fact worse than speculation because it's presented to you as fact.

People's bones are being continually remodelled and repaired over time, you know, not just in the few weeks after being broken.

Could we simply not see it as Reiki dealing with some aspect of the break that had not been dealt with at some level; it's not uncommon for inflammatory conditions to worsen during a Reiki treatment (arthritis for example), bringing things to the surface, in the way that Giles' friend's toe bruise came to the surface.

Best wishes,

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ORIGINAL: Reiki Evolution

Could we simply not see it as Reiki dealing with some aspect of the break that had not been dealt with at some level; it's not uncommon for inflammatory conditions to worsen during a Reiki treatment (arthritis for example), bringing things to the surface, in the way that Giles' friend's toe bruise came to the surface.

Best wishes,

Just to confirm what Taggart said. I have arthritis in my knee and during Reiki treatments, be them self treating or being treated by another, the pain in my knee is excrutiating!!!!

I was told about the usual contra-indications when doing Reiki 1 and 2 but after reading round and using Reiki, I refuse to believe there are any and give Reiki to anyone - anytime, anyplace, anywhere - or to coin a phrase (I think it's Pauls ;)) Martini Reiki!

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My mother is diabetic and has a pacemaker, it's never caused her any trouble whatsoever. FOr someone with diabetes you should always ask whether they have appropriate medication with them in case they should have an attack - this goes for anything not just the reiki.

I was taught not to send reiki to someone during their operation, more for ethical reasons than anything else, instead send the intention that the healing be picked up at a time which is appropriate to the recipient.

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Hi Justine,

I was taught not to send reiki to someone during their operation.

... well do you agree with what you were taught? Does it make sense to you; does it feel right to you?

I think that sending Reiki during an operation is a very good thing to do, and I have done it on a few occasions, with powerful results.

Best wishes,

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When I treat people who have diabetes using reflexology, I have to ask them to take their blood sugar levels before and after the treatment. Generally their levels drop dramatically (in one case frm 7.1 before the treatment to 4.5 after). If reflexology can do this I see no reason why reiki can't too.

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I have to tell you!!

Having just returned home from the hospital ( as most of you know my husband is very sick in intensive care on a ventilator at the moment)

When I arrived I checked the monitors and his blood pressure was high.. After about 20 minutes of reiki it had lowered I am also hoping this is because he senses my presence. But the really amazing thing is that he had a largeblack bruise on his elbow, with a litlle graze. After about half an hour I happened to notice that the bruise had disappeared completely leaving just the graze. I am astoninshed and my sister who has been with me throughoutt o support me was totally overawed. The power of healing..keep sending it to him guys!

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How fantastic!!! Never under-estimate the power of love and healing!! Keep up the great work,

Love and light

reikiangel

xxx