Conversation:
Karma, threefold law. Tomato, tomato 😛 In my opinion, it's all the same thing. Law of attraction, like attracts like. You receive what you send out.
I was trying to distinguish between karma and the law of attraction but I couldn't as both involved energy which is sentient.
I don't really get it. The origin of Karma is (as you say) in Hinduism and can be a pretty nasty belief, shoring up the caste system. As I understand it, the Law of Attraction is part of Theosophy and New Thought Movement - neither of which seems very Wiccan.
I can see how "you reap what you sow" appeals although I havent come across any evidence. I know some shamanic practitioners who consider the situations that arise through on-going soul loss (particularly ancestral soul loss) to be a type of Karma, but I wouldnt agree.
You don't have to agree, we're each entitled to our religions. And Wicca IS a new age movement based on an old religion as no one knows the specifics.
Is The Law of Attraction the same as 'you reap what you sow'? If so, I'm misunderstanding what I have read of them. (I wouldn't have thought that the New Thought Movement was the same as 'new age' either).
Yes, we can disagree. And my paganism is shamanic rather than wiccan, so I accept you know more about this than I do. But I seem to be confused about the terminology.
In the hope that someone can help me through my confusion, Ive posted this as a different topic.
Love the title Crowan,
OK, let me try to un-confuse you, though I could just confuse myself 🙂
The Rule of Three:
Very simply:Whatever energy a person puts out into the world, whether positive or negative, will be returned to that person three times. It can get more complex than this and it is different for each Wiccan I would imagine.
Found this which probably explains it better:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_Three_(Wicca)
The "Harm none" element which was raised in other topic, is one that can be debated. I feel that you are able to perform a spell or working that protects yourself and others without the fear of it being returned by the power of three. Not to act could in fact cause more harm than acting, in which case you would be harming someone. Confused?
It is a decision that only the person in the situation can decide upon. But if I or any of my loved ones were being attacked/threatened I would protect myself and my loved ones whatever way was necessary even if it meant causing harm to the attacker.
I hope that has helped and not confused you more.
Blessed be 🙂
And pulled straight from wiki, the law of attraction:
The law of attraction is a metaphysical belief or theory, that "like attracts like," and that Human perception of what is positive and negative thinking bring about positive and negative perceived results, respectively. According to the law of attraction, the phrase "I need more money" or "I don't have enough money" allows the subject to continue to "need more money" or "not have enough money". If the subject wants to change this they would focus their thoughts on the goal (having more money) rather than the problem (needing more money).
Thank you, Meadowsweet, for your answer and the link. They both made very interesting reading.
I can see that the Rule of Three and the ‘Harm None’ injunction are part of the beliefs of Wicca. I can’t see the same for the Law of Attraction. Your quotation, Finalshine, is exactly what I understood this “law” to be. None of my Wiccan friends have ever spoken of this as part of their belief system. Hence my comments about The New Thought Movement.
I can also see that, using terminology in a rather clarity-free way, some people might equate the Rule of Three with Karma.
Incidently, Finalshine, I didn’t say that I disagreed with you. What I said was:
I know some shamanic practitioners who consider the situations that arise through on-going soul loss (particularly ancestral soul loss) to be a type of Karma, but I wouldn’t agree.
Karma is a Sanskrit word meaning "action" and does mean different things slightly to different people.
As for the three-fold law. This is obviously had been invented by someone. Sorry I don't believe this as some natural law. It sounds too contrived to me.
RP