As a point of interest, this is easily achievable without a NDE, moving beyond our everyday thinking aspect of consciousness and embracing the fullness of self, is something which we help people to achieve all of the time.

I have for a long time understood that consciousness does not arise out of the brain, I have built a healing modality around my understanding of how we function within our various aspects of consciousness and how our consciousness (thoughts) creates our life experiences, a modality that heals directly within consciousness to transform it.

On one level of consciousness we are all one, there is no judgement only total acceptance, this is often interpreted as love, but I much prefer to use acceptance, for there are no negative connotations or strings attached to the word acceptance, like there are with the word love.

I can understand the experience of Dr Alexander. What I cannot understand, with him and many others who have such revelatory experiences of Consciousness, is how the leap is made between this experience and the sudden belief in God.

I can understand the experience of Dr Alexander. What I cannot understand, with him and many others who have such revelatory experiences of Consciousness, is how the leap is made between this experience and the sudden belief in God.

I think it perhaps comes down to having experienced something that they cannot logically comprehend, so they associate that with what society has already modelled as something that they cannot logically comprehend... i.e. a god of some sort.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

It's OK guys, I don't believe the god you don't believe in ether! :p

But I do believe in one universal Mind, or consciousness, I do believe in infinite divine Love, in one universal Truth, in eternal Life, which has its being in and of Spirit, in immutable divine law, or Principle, all of which we are one with, which constitutes our real substance and in which we live and have our being.

My point in starting this thread was not to have the same old misunderstandings of the word "God" come up, but to say how delighted i am that a medical practitioner who is used to studying and looking to matter as cause and effect, as beginning and end, suddenly has proof that matter doesn't contain mind - or life - and that his book may be one of the pebbles thrown into the pond of entrenched human thought (almost as entrenched as the anti-god brigade! 😉 ) and help people become more open-minded and to start to accept the possibility of limitless being, rather than finite existence.

Love and peace,

Judy

agreed Judy
Thanks for the post... am off to watch the vid now,
cheers 🙂


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Hi Judy

It is the terminology that is employed, to anyone who has studied religion and/or mysticism, the words soul and spirit have existing connotations attached to them which the word consciousness does not.

To my understanding we have consciousness outside of the physical, but all of our aspects of consciousness are one.

It is exactly the same consciousness that inhabits ever cell of our body, that forms our mind body interface to allow our consciousness to interact with our physicality and our physicality to interact with our consciousness so that we can experience the sense of feelings that it creates within its physicality.

It is exactly the same consciousness that forms our core way of being which is the driving force of our reality that works through our mind body interface to set up the environment which dictates our general state of health and wellbeing.

It is exactly the same consciousness that stores our memories, both as they occurred and with the perceptions and judgements that we place upon them simultaneously, so that they can influence our core way of being.

It is exactly the same consciousness that forms our everyday thinking aspect of consciousness that interacts with the world around us and our other aspects of consciousness, or with the consciousness of everyone else and the oneness, to whatever extent we allow it to do so.

It is exactly the same consciousness which our higher self uses to oversee our physical life experience and non-judgmentally allows us to experience what we choose to experience.

Then beyond self it is exactly the same consciousness that the oneness of consciousness is made of.

All consciousness is one and the same, it is the way that consciousness is set up to function within our aspects of consciousness that makes it appear different, it is exactly the same consciousness that is performing a different function within consciousness, much like our liver performs a different function to our heart or lungs, but we have one body with many systems to it, but it all came from one cell.

I think that what I am trying to say here is consciousness, is consciousness, we use the same consciousness to create pain and suffering through separation as we do to create healing to transform the separateness back it into wholeness or oneness so that healing can occur.

I do not understand why people cannot accept consciousness for what it is, which is consciousness, thought is consciousness, when we understand the creative power of thought, then we understand the creative power of consciousness, we are all complete within the fullness of self right now, just the same as we where before we choose to come and embrace a physical life experience, we just need to accept and embrace self in order to perceive it, nothing else is required. 🙂

It's OK guys, I don't believe the god you don't believe in ether! :p

But I do believe in one universal Mind, or consciousness, I do believe in infinite divine Love, in one universal Truth, in eternal Life, which has its being in and of Spirit, in immutable divine law, or Principle, all of which we are one with, which constitutes our real substance and in which we live and have our being.

Hi Judy,

Do you mind my asking, you use the word "believe", are you saying that you have belief in:

But I do believe in one universal Mind, or consciousness, I do believe in infinite divine Love, in one universal Truth, in eternal Life, which has its being in and of Spirit, in immutable divine law, or Principle, all of which we are one with, which constitutes our real substance and in which we live and have our being.

these things, or actual experience of them... I'm really curious to know...

Thanks;)

agreed Judy
Thanks for the post... am off to watch the vid now,
cheers 🙂


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Cor Rog - you're a blast from the past! 😉 Good to see you here again.

Judy

Hi Judy

It is the terminology that is employed, to anyone who has studied religion and/or mysticism, the words soul and spirit have existing connotations attached to them which the word consciousness does not.

Hi Paul, as with anything spiritual rather than material, human language is very limited in its ability to describe what we experience or intuitively understand. My understanding of consciousness for instance, is slightly different from what it sounds that you are describing, but again, it may just be language.

There are so many scientific breakthroughs coming - it's an exciting time! I came across these three quotes which I thought were very interesting:

I rejoice that scientists are finally beginning to look into the spiritual reality that has been known about for thousands of years, but largely ignored, because it goes against what our senses tell us.

“I believe that consciousness and its contents are all that exists. Spacetime, matter and fields never were the fundamental denizens of the universe but have always been, from their beginning, among the humbler contents of consciousness, dependent on it for their very being.”
DONALD HOFFMAN
Cognitive Scientist, UC, Irvine; Author, “Visual Intelligence”

“Although quantum theory is an abstruse and formidable field, its philosophical and theological implications reduce to one shattering effect: the overthrow of matter…For some 200 years… nearly all leading scientists shared these materialistic assumptions [that the foundation of nature is based on solid and impenetrable particles] based on sensory and deterministic logic…The contemporary intellectual, denying God, is in a trap, and he projects his entrapment onto the world in a kind of secular suicide. But the world is not entrapped; man is not finite; the human mind is not bound in material brain.”
George Gilder,Founding Editor or Forbes ASAP; Fellow International Engineering Consortium; Recipient of White House Award for Entrepreneurial Excellence

“Willis Hannon, Roger Sperry, and others have speculated that Western society is on the verge of a ‘second Copernican revolution,’ in which the dominant attitudes will evolve into a belief in consciousness as the primary ‘stuff of the universe.’
Charles Leighton
“A Change of Heart”, American Journal of Nursing,

Judy

Hi Judy,

Do you mind my asking, you use the word "believe", are you saying that you have belief in:these things, or actual experience of them... I'm really curious to know...

Both Wilsdstrawberry! 🙂

Of course no-one in this present human experience could have experienced the FULL spectrum of what I was trying to describe without leaving their mortal body and ascending!

But, I have experienced countless physical healings all my life (I rely on Christian Science treatment for all my health care needs); protection, guidance, comfort, joy, freedom, supply and many things that to mortal sense have no explanation, like with the weather.

There are some of my experiences included in these threads:

Love and peace,

Judy

Hi Judy,

Thanks for your answer 🙂

Of course no-one in this present human experience could have experienced the FULL spectrum of what I was trying to describe without leaving their mortal body and ascending!

....that seems a bit of a limited believe, Judy ~ maybe you've bumped into a few such people on these very forums.

But, I have experienced countless physical healings all my life (I rely on Christian Science treatment for all my health care needs); protection, guidance, comfort, joy, freedom, supply and many things that to mortal sense have no explanation, like with the weather.

There are some of my experiences included in these threads:

Love and peace,

Judy

I'll have a look at those posts, Judy ~ Thanks again 🙂

Hi Judy

There are so many scientific breakthroughs coming - it's an exciting time! I came across these three quotes which I thought were very interesting:

Yes, I have been saying similar for a long time, but then I did not look to science for my answers, which allowed me to approach what is within consciousness, with an open mind. 🙂

Vivien's Dad comes from a scientific background (quantum/nuclear physics) and whilst he accepts what we do, because he has experienced it first hand and has experienced the effects, he can't put a handle on it with his scientific mindset, when I attempt to explain consciousness in relation to everything, he cannot accept that there is order because there is consciousness within everything or that we are all one within consciousness.

I rejoice that scientists are finally beginning to look into the spiritual reality that has been known about for thousands of years, but largely ignored, because it goes against what our senses tell us.

I think that has more to do with our beliefs than our senses, our senses will follow the directive of our way of being, much the same as our feelings do.

We do not perceive the fullness of self (consciousness) with our physical senses, for consciousness is not physical in nature, we have to choose to look within and move beyond the constraints of our everyday thinking mind which is closely linked to our physicality, in order to perceive that whilst we are experiencing a physical life experience and all that it gives us, we are still a being of consciousness, interacting with a physical existence, through a physical body. 🙂

Of course no-one in this present human experience could have experienced the FULL spectrum of what I was trying to describe without leaving their mortal body and ascending!

They never will if that is what they believe, for our thoughts creates our realities, with that understanding we have to become something other than what we are right now (which is a being of consciousness experiencing a physical existence) to be able to perceive what they will become when they cease to be a human being and ascend back into consciousness.

To my understanding we have consciousness, within the oneness of consciousness all is one, this physical reality is as much a part of the oneness of consciousness as our physical bodies are an aspect of our own consciousness.

It is not the physical body which is stopping us from experiencing the oneness of consciousness, it is our mindsets that we create for ourselves within our everyday thinking aspect of consciousness, which limits us to that which our physical body can create or perceive.

We do not have to go anywhere or become anything other than what we already are, we just need to accept ourself in an open and non-judgemental way and allow ourselves to be. 🙂

Hi Paul,

Good post!

We learn in Christian Science that there are two types of consciousness - the mortal and immortal. One is real (the immortal) while the mortal is the counterfiet, or unreal. Mary Baker Eddy called mortal consciousness "mortal mind" and yes, it's from this limited mortal consciousness with its fears and doubts that all the inharmonies of life come from. You only have to look at placebo and especially nocebo experiments to understand this.

Immortal consciousness she called the divine Mind (one of the 7 synonyms for God) and it's when we let go of the mortal limited way of thinking and unite with the one real Mind that we glimpse the full spectrum of reality (which brings healing and harmony on the human plane) as she describes here: (generic man - she not being sexist!)

Man is the idea of Spirit; he reflects the beatific presence, illuming the universe with light. Man is deathless, spiritual. He is above sin or frailty. He does not cross the barriers of time into the vast forever of Life, but he coexists with God and the universe. (Science and Health p 266)

When WldStrawberry asked me if I'd experienced all that I'd described in my definition of God (for that's what reality is called to me) I did indeed say that of course no-one in this present human experience could have experienced the FULL spectrum of what I was trying to describe without leaving their mortal body and ascending - meaning that I haven't ascended yet, so have not yet fully proved or demonstrated what I believe.

However, there are of course individuals who have fully understood spiritual reality and its laws and who have left their example for us to follow. I'm thinking of some of the Hebrew prophets, some Hindu yogis and of course Jesus, who completely and utterly understood his divine selfhood, his one-ness with God, so much so that he had complete dominion over every single mortal limitation and who was able to cure thousands at any one time, still storms, express abundance in the face of limtation, walk on the water, raise the dead (ultimately even himself), until, in the words of Mary Baker Eddy:

In his final demonstration, called the ascension, which closed the earthly record of Jesus, he rose above the physical knowledge of his disciples, and the material senses saw him no more. (Science and Health 46)

Jesus taught us to walk over, not into or with, the currents of matter, or mortal mind. His teachings beard the lions in their dens. He turned the water into wine, he commanded the winds, he healed the sick,--all in direct opposition to human philosophy and so-called natural science. He annulled the laws of matter, showing them to be laws of mortal mind, not of God. He showed the need of changing this mind and its abortive laws. He demanded a change of consciousness and evidence, and effected this change through the higher laws of God. …………….Jesus required neither cycles of time nor thought in order to mature fitness for perfection and its possibilities.
(Unity of Good p 11)

Love and peace,

Judy

Hi Judy

Hi Paul,

Good post!

We learn in Christian Science that there are two types of consciousness - the mortal and immortal. One is real (the immortal) while the mortal is the counterfiet, or unreal. Mary Baker Eddy called mortal consciousness "mortal mind" and yes, it's from this limited mortal consciousness with its fears and doubts that all the inharmonies of life come from. You only have to look at placebo and especially nocebo experiments to understand this.

Immortal consciousness she called the divine Mind (one of the 7 synonyms for God) and it's when we let go of the mortal limited way of thinking and unite with the one real Mind that we glimpse the full spectrum of reality (which brings healing and harmony on the human plane) as she describes here: (generic man - she not being sexist!)

Man is the idea of Spirit; he reflects the beatific presence, illuming the universe with light. Man is deathless, spiritual. He is above sin or frailty. He does not cross the barriers of time into the vast forever of Life, but he coexists with God and the universe. (Science and Health p 266)

Yes I can understand what you are saying and how that was conceived, I see it a little differently though. 🙂

I perceive seven aspects of consciousness that a human being requires to function here on this planet, six of them are only required here and they dissipate when we finish our physical life experience as a human being and revert back to being a BEing of consciousness, the seventh which is our higher self which is our true state of being within consciousness, that remains constant and does not change irrespective of the life experience that we entertain whilst we are here.

But, yes I know there is alway a but. 🙂 Our higher self is not somewhere else whilst we embrace this physical life experience, it is still within us as we remain within the oneness, consciousness encompasses everything, so there is no where else for it to be, we are one and complete right now, if we choose to let go of our separateness.

Yes I know, separateness is something that we come here to experience, for there is no separateness within the oneness, it is an illusion that we create for ourselves, we can be both separate as a human being and one within the oneness at the same time, we do not need to wait until we die for that to happen. 🙂

When WldStrawberry asked me if I'd experienced all that I'd described in my definition of God (for that's what reality is called to me) I did indeed say that of course no-one in this present human experience could have experienced the FULL spectrum of what I was trying to describe without leaving their mortal body and ascending - meaning that I haven't ascended yet, so have not yet fully proved or demonstrated what I believe.

I personally perceive it as the oneness of consciousness which we are all an integral aspect of, as I said earlier we do not have to wait until we die to embrace the oneness within the fullness of self, it is already there, it can't go anywhere else, it just requires a reordering of the way that we think in order to perceive and function within it right now. 🙂

At the end of the day it does not really matter what we choose to think and believe here in this reality, for those beliefs are only used to shape our life experience in the here and now, in our true form there is no here and now and what we choose to think here has no impact upon our true self which is always constant. 😉

Thanks Paul - we are really quite close in our perspectives!

When St Paul said, "... in him we live, and move, and have our being;" (Acts 17) I think he was describing in his own way what you just have. And for anyone who has a Bible, the writing about our preexistence in Proverbs 8:22 onwards are just beautiful.

Love and peace,

Judy

agreed Judy
Thanks for the post... am off to watch the vid now,
cheers 🙂

Nice.........Iam agree with you.

I was reading the November Cygnus Review this morning and was pleasantly surprised to find an article by Dr Eben Alexander about his NDE in it. So, here it is, getting us back on topic again:

[url]Proof of Heaven by Dr Eben Alexander[/url]

And here's another commentary on this experience - this time taking a slightly different perspective:

[url]The present heaven*/*Christian Science Sentinel[/url]

Here is the bigger meaning, it seems to me: Can this conscious, inner-self activity and feeling of higher love only occur near or after death? Why would this “inner self” be dormant when we are physically active and only wake up and “come alive” when we are physically dead? Isn’t it reasonable to consider that this conscious, inner self surrounded by love is always active, in the present physical condition, and continues on regardless of the state of brain and body? In essence, then, it is a heavenly state attainable in the here and now.*

Love and peace,

Judy

I almost started a new thread, but then remembers this one Judy started and thought that this news article from the BBC today (well yesterday, I don't look at it that often) was quite interesting in this respect...

[url]BBC News - Near-death experiences are 'electrical surge in dying brain'[/url]

All Love and Reiki Hugs

I almost started a new thread, but then remembers this one Judy started and thought that this news article from the BBC today (well yesterday, I don't look at it that often) was quite interesting in this respect...

[url]BBC News - Near-death experiences are 'electrical surge in dying brain'[/url]

All Love and Reiki Hugs

I am not convinced that NDE can be seen as proof of a God, but someone seeing the objects that Judy described as being strategically placed in operating rooms may indicate a capability that we as yet are unaware of. , but that's me. The brain is capable of some very weird activity.
But I would like to hear how others understand love, because it is always cropping up and seems to be seen as a panacea, and the answer to everything.

I almost started a new thread, but then remembers this one Judy started and thought that this news article from the BBC today (well yesterday, I don't look at it that often) was quite interesting in this respect...

[url]BBC News - Near-death experiences are 'electrical surge in dying brain'[/url]

Having given the book away, I wasn't able to copy the passages where he talks about these skeptical dismissals, but have just found where he covers this aspect of his experience in the Cygnus article. The thing about Dr Alemander's experience was that his brain wasn't "dying", it was dead.

Consciousness beyond the brain

When your brain is absent, you are absent, too, or so I would have told you before my own brain crashed. As a neurosurgeon, I’d heard many stories over the years of people who had strange experiences, usually suffering cardiac arrest: stories of travelling to mysterious, wonderful landscapes; of talking to dead relatives – even of meeting God Himself.


Wonderful stuff, no question. But all of it, in my opinion, was pure fantasy. What caused the otherworldly types of experiences that such people so often report? I didn’t claim to know, but I did know that they were brain-based. All of consciousness is. If you don’t have a working brain, you can’t be conscious.

An experience with massive implications

But then, as I said, my own brain crashed and I was compelled to revise my opinion. During my coma my brain wasn’t working improperly – it wasn’t working at all. I now believe that this might have been what was responsible for the depth and intensity of the near-death experience (NDE) that I myself underwent during it. Many of the NDEs reported happen when a person’s heart has shut down for a while. In those cases, the neocortex is temporarily inactivated, but generally not too damaged, provided that the flow of oxygenated blood is restored through cardiopulmonary resuscitation or reactivation of cardiac function within four minutes or so. But in my case, the neocortex was out of the picture. I was encountering the reality of a world of consciousness that existed completely free of the limitations of my physical brain....

Those implications are tremendous beyond description. My experience showed me that the death of the body and the brain are not the end of consciousness, that human experience continues beyond the grave. More important, it continues under the gaze of a God who loves and cares about each one of us and about where the universe itself and all the beings within it are ultimately going....

[url]Proof of Heaven by Dr Eben Alexander[/url]

I am not convinced that NDE can be seen as proof of a God,....

Well, God is Life Itself - so these glimpses of eternal life surely show that and all the NDEs I read, have described how the individual felt enfolded in divine Love (a love much higher and deeper and more intense than any human love) and of course, God is Love. People were seen who were suffering in the own hell - the hell of their mortal, material thinking that they hadn't left behind, but there was a light by each one and they just had to reach out for it.

But I would like to hear how others understand love, because it is always cropping up and seems to be seen as a panacea, and the answer to everything.

Here again are some more excerpts from Dr Alexander:

Living proof

...Not only was my journey about love, but it was also about who we are and how connected we all are – the very meaning of all existence. I learned who I was up there, and when I came back, I realized that the last broken strands of who I am down here were sewn up.

You are loved. Those words are what I needed to hear as an orphan, as a child who’d been given away. But it’s also what every one of us in this materialistic age needs to hear as well, because in terms of who we really are, where we really came from, and where we’re really going, we all feel (wrongly) like orphans. Without recovering that memory of our larger connectedness, and of the unconditional love of our Creator, we will always feel lost here on earth.

[url]Proof of Heaven by Dr Eben Alexander[/url]

But I would like to hear how others understand love, because it is always cropping up and seems to be seen as a panacea, and the answer to everything.

Yes it would appear that you are right, love like any other emotive way of being like hate, jealousy, anger, peace, joy and happiness etc, will create the appropriate emotional responses within our physical bodies to our current underlying thought patterns and beliefs.

Personally I do not perceive love as the answer to everything, far from it, it is as powerful and all consuming as anger is, but where as the emotional state of anger can be released and got rid of, love is not always so easy to rid oneself of. 😉

Yes it would appear that you are right, love like any other emotive way of being like hate, jealousy, anger, peace, joy and happiness etc, will create the appropriate emotional responses within our physical bodies to our current underlying thought patterns and beliefs.

Personally I do not perceive love as the answer to everything, far from it, it is as powerful and all consuming as anger is, but where as the emotional state of anger can be released and got rid of, love is not always so easy to rid oneself of. 😉

I agree with what you are saying, but is this because we attributing love without fully understanding what it is......The love/hate scenario is a human perspective relating to emotion, where as love (the way healing etc works) may be something completely different. More as a contractual bridge between parties. Either "God" and humanity or a healer and the patient. Not actually being used as an emotion.

I agree with what you are saying, but is this because we attributing love without fully understanding what it is......The love/hate scenario is a human perspective relating to emotion, where as love (the way healing etc works) may be something completely different. More as a contractual bridge between parties. Either "God" and humanity or a healer and the patient. Not actually being used as an emotion.

If we consider that if someone read or spoke the the word love without any emotive response, then the word love is then simply a word without any personal meaning or understanding.

You are going to have to come up with a new word that is not already established with an emotive way of being that defines it, personally I utilise the word acceptance, because with acceptance their is no emotion, there is only acceptance, it is the same with being, there are no emotions involved with just being, we just are. 🙂

If we consider that if someone read or spoke the the word love without any emotive response, then the word love is then simply a word without any personal meaning or understanding.

You are going to have to come up with a new word that is not already established with an emotive way of being that defines it, personally I utilise the word acceptance, because with acceptance their is no emotion, there is only acceptance, it is the same with being, there are no emotions involved with just being, we just are. 🙂

Acceptance is a good word.........I think that we talk of love because it is classed as the highest positive emotion. But in our relationship with others acceptance has more power. We can't shake hands with anyone if they do not accept the offer, no matter how much we want to...In the Bible it tells of Jesus' inability to help others if they would not accept him. Healers cannot help others if they do not want to partake.
To me love is true, only as an emotion as a noun. As a verb, a doing word, it can have its limitations.

Acceptance is a good word.........I think that we talk of love because it is classed as the highest positive emotion. But in our relationship with others acceptance has more power. We can't shake hands with anyone if they do not accept the offer, no matter how much we want to...In the Bible it tells of Jesus' inability to help others if they would not accept him. Healers cannot help others if they do not want to partake.
To me love is true, only as an emotion as a noun. As a verb, a doing word, it can have its limitations.

Emotions are like everything else, all things in moderation and occasional excess is fine, any emotional state that is in a constant state of trigger will have a detrimental effect upon the general state of health and wellbeing of the person that is activating it. 🙂

Yes, permission given through acceptance is certainly the key in healing and most things. 🙂

Good grief chaps, Dr Alexander wasn't talking about the human emotion we call love in his account!! Human love is a mere shadow of infinite, all-encompassing, unconditional, ever-present divine Love (in other words God).

I have experienced this consciousness of divine Love just before physical healings through prayer - it sometimes comes as warmth, as beatific bliss or as a shining white light, filling the room, a light whiter and brighter than the sun. But actually, language can't describe the presence of this all-enveloping loving consciousness and there really is nothing to compare with it. The deepest love anyone has for parents, child, partner, friend or pet just is a shadow of the real thing.

Mary Baker Eddy said in order to become a better transparency for Truth, our thought needs to lose much materiality. Her thought was so at one with God, with Love, Truth, Life, (or divine Mother, or Source) that people were healed as her carriage passed them.

This excerpt from an account of a woman who went to a meeting with her children, hosted by Mrs Eddy at her home, describes in some measure this infinite Mother-Love:[COLOR="Blue"]

"I wish I could make the world know what I saw when Mrs Eddy looked at those children. it was a revelation to me. I saw for the first time the real Mother-Love, and I knew I did not have it. I had a strange, agonised sense of being absolutely cut off from the children. it is impossible to put into words what the uncovering of my own lack of real Mother-Love meant to me.
As I turned in the procession and walked toward the line of trees in the front of the yard, there was a bird sitting on the limb of a tree, and I saw the same love, poured out on that bird that I had seen flow from Mrs Eddy to my children. I looked down at the grass and the flowers and there was the same Love resting on them. it is difficult for me to put into words what I saw. This Love was everywhere, like the light, but it was divine, not mere human affection.
I looked at the people milling around on the lawn and I saw it poured out on them. I thought of the various discords ……. and I saw, for the first time, the absolute unreality of everything but this infinite Love. It was not only everywhere present, like the light, but it was an intelligent presence that spoke to me, and I found myself weeping as I walked back and forth under the trees and saying out loud, "Why have I never known you before? Why have I not known you always?"
I don’t know how long it was until my boy came to me and said, "Come, mother, they are going home." I got into the carriage and drove back to the hotel, but that same conscious intelligence and Love were everywhere. It rested upon everything my thoughts rested upon."
(12 Years with Mary Baker Eddy. I.C. Tomlinson)

(Her daughter had had a nasty boil on her head when they left to go to the meeting that morning, but when they got back, there was no sign of it.)

This is no human emotion called acceptance, Scomm and Paul! A blind man can deny the sunset, or a deaf man the ocean's roar. Just because you haven't experienced it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist!

I found another interview with Dr Alexander where he tries to describe it:

Dr. Eben Alexander:** The phrase, “unconditional love,” people talk about all the time who have had these kinds of experiences. The words just fail to do it justice. But it explains so much and the comfort that I found there and the love and the oneness and the connectedness that we all have and share is really profound....
I’m very grateful to Edgar Mitchell, the Apollo 14 astronaut who’s been a wonderful help in all this. He had this beautiful epiphany on his way back from the moon back in the early 1970s where he was aware of this consciousness throughout the universe. ..
In my view that kind of thing really supports information as the core of all existence and it’s a very short step from the physics statement that information is at the base of all existence to saying that an intelligent, omniscient, unconditionally loving creator is that information at the core of it all.
[url]190. Dr. Eben Alexander on the Medical Mystery of Near-Death Experience | Skeptiko - Science at the Tipping Point[/url]

Love and peace,

Judy