Morbid and rather macabre subject i know, but i've just got to ask as i have a bee in me bonnet!
What started off as reading up on the planets and signs in my chart has now led me up to my burning question: Can the planets/star sign in the 8th house indicate how you will die? I don't have no planets in mine, just Cancer. I've been rummaging around on the net, and there have been some velly funny answers, but i'm still none the wiser.
While i know there's a whole array of factors that can be influential to a person's demise ( for example, i had two potential chances to die today from a bed crushing me or a wardrobe falling on top of me as i have been playing musical furniture this afternoon!) i'm just soooo curious to know-sometimes i am too curious for me own good LOL 😀
warmest wishes- calla lily x
Hi Calla Lily,
I too have an empty (no planets within) 8th house in Cancer. So I look to the ruler of the eighth house, the Moon, and see how the Moon is placed in the horoscope. By placed I mean weighing up the strengths and weaknesses by sign, by aspect to other planets, whether the planet has any essential dignities, or whether it is debilitated.
There is a much older method of determining length of life, used by traditional astrologers and this is known as the hyleg and alcoccoden. This link explains in great detail how it is worked out. It is a complex system explained really well by a really good astrologer
I now use a computer programme for all of my calculations so much easier.
The hyleg in my chart is also the Moon, but I haven't worked out the alcoccoden. The date will have to remain a mystery, cos I don't want to know when. 😮
Binah
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Ta for your reply Binah and for the link, :hug: if i had the patience i'd work out just how long i have left on this planet, but alas, patience was never a virtue of mine!:o
I've been doing some further rummaging around, and came up with a link where my reaction was a cross between 😮 and 😀 (wasn't taking it seriously!) when i read the possible causes a person might meet their maker-i have to say, i was quite perturbed by the aries and pisces one!:speechless-smiley-0
warmest wishes- calla lily x
Death is a taboo subject so much so that most of us do not want to know how and when we will take our last mortal breath. I certainly don't want to know this for myself, nor would I if I could predict such for any one else.
I have not met an astrologer who gave such a prediction to anyone and rightly so for they may have their calculations wrong, and have caused unnecessary stress.
On a lighter note the 8th house also covers sex, transformation, partners values and resources. So if Jupiter is in the 8th house and is well aspected it could be abundance - lots of money and the other.:D
Binah
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I've since found out my hyleg is the sun, and while trying to find a short cut to find the other ( i'm so morbid me!) i opened up a new can of proverbial worms-apparently the 4th house tells you when you're going to die so three guesses what i was researching last night...:o
warmest wishes- calla lily x
My you are going into the depths of it all. The 4th house is the womb and the tomb, also the home and soul. It's one of the angles of the chart and a sensitive point. T.S Elliot writes "In my beginning is my end".
It takes a very good astrologer to be able to predict death and I am not aware of any who would do so ethically. One excellent astrologer was able to pinpoint it by not only looking at his own chart, which did have some strong indicators but by looking at the charts of his loved ones in whose charts he could clearly see bereavement. His findings were published posthumously
Binah
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once something grabs me attention, that's it- i develop a full blown obsession that it has to be done to death if you'll excuse the pun LOL:D
i'm still no closer to finding out just when i'll bid farewell to the world, but some of the ways have been quite sombre and downright hilarious in the daftness of them!
warmest wishes- calla lily x
Death is an illusion. Okay we physically leave our bodies, but the soul doesn't die we continue doing the rounds of each sign until we have learnt the lessons each sign has to teach us and the challenges presented to us by the planets.
Cancer and Capricorn have long been seen as gateways of incarnation - they are the natural 4th and 10th house and the signs of the solstices.
Alice Bayley writes on this...
“All souls come into incarnation in the sign of Cancer. By this, I mean that the very first human carnation was always taken in this sign, which has been recognized down the ages as ‘the doorway into life of those who must know death’,” just as Capricorn “is ever regarded as another door and is called esoterically ‘the doorway into life of those who know not death’.”
This is probably why astrologers of old called Cancer as the 4th house
the beginning and end. Capricorn is the highest attainment of the soul where it reaches the mountain top spiritually, on a materialistic level it shows the ambitious businessman.
Binah
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we continue doing the rounds of each sign until we have learnt the lessons each sign has to teach us and the challenges presented to us by the planets.
Binah
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never thought about that in astrological terms, thanks Binah