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Fadette
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http://hampshireagainstfluoridation.blogspot.com/2011/03/daily-echo-letters_26.html

so my question is, sincerely, is Hampshire part of Anglia, Northumberland, South Stafforshire, or the Severn Trent...? or does it have United Utilities as its water supplier? the above link states that the supplier is Southern Water, so I dare say there seems to be a gap between what "Drinking Water Inspectorate" says and the number of councils really having fluorinated water.

now here is a map that would show the areas "receiving" fluoride: but it dates from 2008. since then Hampshire has definitely been added to other regions...

it will sound like paranoia and conspiracy theroy but it looks like to me those population, children especially, in those areas are used to monitor the effect of fluoride. much like other things have been "tested" in Scotland, say (poll tax) before elsewhere, and most importantly, before London! the worst case theories on the web say that fluoride was a plan by the Nazis and Soviets to keep a population submissive and servile as it (clearly desmonstrated by world scientists today, see link above) damages the brain, among other things.

My motivation in posting this is not to start a hot debate and derive some sort of sick satisfaction from it. I dont plan to live in England, nor in Ireland nor Spain (European countries adding artificial fluoride into the water) I think, but I would want the whole of Europe, and the world, to move towards a complete ban of fluorinated water (and toothpaste). Id really welcome a study showing comparison of birth defects, hyperactivity, severe arthritis and cancer in regions that have it and in those that dont.


 
Posted : 15/04/2011 2:43 pm
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Posted : 15/04/2011 3:02 pm
myarka
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Dated 26 Feb 2009 Southampton and south west Hampshire were given approval to add fluoride to the water:

http://www.bfsweb.org/facts/wf_uknworld/scshadecision.htm

Howeve, your initial comment was most regions, but the fact is, the mojority of the English population enjoy their water supply without fluoride.

Myarka


 
Posted : 15/04/2011 3:06 pm
Venetian
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... which leads us on mayhap to the subject of Chloride, which I think we all get in our water (?). But there has to be something in tap water, alas, to keep it free of too much bacteria. Though in some areas chloride is so prominent that it's disgusting and tastes like drinking from a swimming pool.:eek:

Fluoride is a 'sad' subject to me. I was woken up to the 'plot' and to the fact that it's just poison (including in toothpaste which almost all parents give to their kids) decades ago, and thought activism would be able to push things back, to awaken public consciousness. But decades later, nothing has changed...

V


 
Posted : 15/04/2011 4:49 pm
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I once had an engineer come to our home to test the water (he turned up on the doorstep) It met all the standards. I asked him why our water tastes fine, but where our church is (on the same supply pipe 5 miles away) it was heavily chlorinated. He said it was because it was very near the water treatment plant.

But he said that chlorine is a gas and if you pour the water into a jug and let it stand for 30 mins, all the chlorine will evaporate away - it certainly does improve the taste. Our area does not have fluoride.

Judy


 
Posted : 15/04/2011 7:50 pm
Venetian
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But he said that chlorine is a gas and if you pour the water into a jug and let it stand for 30 mins, all the chlorine will evaporate away - it certainly does improve the taste.

Interesting. I didn't know that. Will try it.

But I do know that "chloride" is the form it takes when soluble in water. As a pure gas, it was one of the main gasses used in WWI to send over to the opposing trenches, as chlorine. Or if I'm wrong a chemist can correct me? But as far as I know, the gaseous form of chloride is deadly (not suggesting it would do that in your kitchen it you leave a jug of water for half an hour!). It's heavier than air, so in WWI stayed low on the ground and of course was blown by prevailing winds.

V


 
Posted : 15/04/2011 9:00 pm
jeannie
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I read this recently and thought others concerned about the water they drink may also like to read...

'If you wish to taste the true flavour of water as it should be, (be it from a fluorited water supply or no) sprout wheatgrass and cut off the green growing tips of the shoots to add to a container of water. After about twelve to twenty hours, remove the shoots, and the water tastes as you never remember water tasting before. it has become biochemically free from many of the substances that civilisation has added to it.'

Also

'Wheatgrass is blessed with a vitaim E content that can do apparent miracles in your digestive system.'


 
Posted : 28/04/2011 11:33 am
Venetian
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Hi jeannie

I haven't got round to growing wheatgrass for quite a long time, but was once into it, having read a book on its amazing properties. But I never read that it can purify water? Interesting if so.

I'm afraid my main memory of wheatgrass juice is holding my nose and drinking the minute quantity advised - oh yuk! But I'm always one to over-do things, so one day I figured, "If it's good for you, why not take twice as much?" OMG. Did I turn green! And ended up I think with my head in a toilet bowl. 😮 Always stick to the recommended small dosage! 😀

V


 
Posted : 28/04/2011 4:08 pm
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There are certainly reeds that can purify water - much used for household waste in Chinese gardens, I understand. So I'm not surprised if other grasses can do the same. Using houseplants in offices tends to help the removal of chemicals in the atmosphere.

I'm not sure I agree with the statement that allowing water to stand for 10 minutes will allow the chlorine to evaporate. We use an in-line filter here at home and drinking tea and coffee elsewhere can be an unpleasant experience because I can taste the chemicals that remain in the water, even after boiling it. Chlorine seems to be the main culprit, but there are other chemicals there too - a bio-chemist who was visiting us identified phenols in the water before we installed the filter.

I wouldn't be without the water filter, and can't bear the smell and taste of most municipal water!


 
Posted : 28/04/2011 9:58 pm
Fadette
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Oo Caroline, what filter do you have? Im thinking of getting one, a proper one too.

haha, Venetian, Im similar, i always double or triple doses. I end up stinking of garlic (no joke about the frenchies), having stomach cramps because of a foul witch drink consisting of burdock and dendelion roots boiling for 20 minutes then topping it saturating with veg juices!

saying this, I saw a tv doc where they showed someone growing their own barleygrass at home and juicing it with a weird juice extractor, specific for grass or say cucumber (my juice extractor would just mush everything and only give me 3 drops, if I use soft food), but it was horribly expensive...but I want it! it s simple, it s the CHLOROPHYLE, 95% chlorophyle, s gotto be good for you.


 
Posted : 30/04/2011 7:25 pm
Fadette
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http://www.aliv-e.com/fr/product/prodspec/green_star.asp

here is the juice extractor I want..some day.


 
Posted : 01/05/2011 12:45 pm
Fadette
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O my....!! 533 euros!! that's about 450 pounds!! that makes grass juice a bit expensive. might as well try to eat grass as salad! 🙂


 
Posted : 01/05/2011 12:49 pm
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