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Hi all........i need help!! Dont want to go down the counselling road(i know already) and thought nlp would help my thought patterns. Whilst browsing the nlp sites for a therapist to contact i wondered if actually attending a course/workshop would help in my journey?
for those of you guys qualified in this.....did your training change your negative (if you had any!!)thoughts ?? Did any of you train rather than recieve nlp on a one to one??
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Hiya

It's a double edged sword really. If you need and would benefit from treatments, get them, the classroom really isn't the place to go for this. If there are small things to tidy, then learning the techniques will help anyway. Many businesspeople go to NLP workshops and classes to train as it does help them with managing relationships. There are specific courses designed for this.

There is a set of books called the Mind Gym, which I swear by, it could be worth taking a look at those whilst not NLP books, they do greatly help with behaviours and understanding people, which may prepare you for training and for one-to-one if you decide this is the best route.

If you can afford to do both, do both, and enjoy the ride!

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Hi if its feelings you are trying to change try eft instead of nlp because it is cheaper and very effective. Sometimes changing the thoughts isn't enough because the feelings still remain.

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If you need and would benefit from treatments, get them, the classroom really isn't the place to go for this. If there are small things to tidy, then learning the techniques will help anyway.

Hi GreenQueen
I absolutely agree with the above. The training can be really demanding and one has to stretch a lot, which is uncomfortable at times.
I certainly feel like a came out of my training a different person having solved many of my issues.
And if you have big issues it is much better to get treatments first. That way you also have a chance to find out whether it really is something you would want to train in.
All the Best.

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thanks all.....i have the eft manual and dvds so will seek out a therapist in brum and do the eft as well then decide on the training after.

so my next question........best site for a good well trained therapist?

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There are a lot of reputable sites.

There are some EFTers on..
it has some good therapists there but I would strongly advise that you try:

as it is the official EFT website and if you are planning to have EFT, you are well served to see a practitioner who has had the appropriate style of training in these techniques.

You may also like to consider FREEWAY CER

Like EFT, it is a meridian therapy which can be used to treat a similar range of issues very successfully, however the routine is a little different. As we are all different, some people are drawn to one over another. There are a lot of meridian therapies out there but these are the two which I personally feel can move mountains.

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Thanks all
As i have all the "bumf" from emo free i was thinking to practice this myself and seek out a nlp practitioner .....?

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Hi if its feelings you are trying to change try eft instead of nlp because it is cheaper and very effective. Sometimes changing the thoughts isn't enough because the feelings still remain.

I absolutely agree with this: although we may interface with the world through thoughts (dare I say particularly as men), it would be a mistake to "think" that thoughts have primacy in the interior life.

Feelings rule, OK!

EFT is wonderful, and quick to learn, and there are videos on the net which will teach you the process. It is astonishingly powerful, and its infuriating when people think that because its so simple it can't be any good. Spend a day just working with it, eating and resting. Don't sell it short.

NLP does work on the feelings, using thoughts and language as a means to assist. My own NLP training left me in tears several times (a recommendation!) and it wasn't the power of thoughts that was doing that, obviously. Good NLP courses run open days at little cost, and I used to enjoy (more feelings) these even when I was already a master practitioner. It works at the ego level, of course, nothing wrong in that, its helpful to run your head how you want, when you know which way you need to be going. or what your outcome is, in NLPese.

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Yes, EFT is fabulous and I would highly recommend it for self-help - as others mentioned, there are a lot of free resources online, and the introductory courses are short (1-2 days) and relatively unexpensive.

Good quality NLP training can be life-transforming (but there are an awful lot of poor quality trainings around, which is worse than no training at all - so if you decide do go for this, do choose very carefully - proper NLP Practitioner training should ideally be full 20 days, and yes it is expensive).

If you want to see an NLP practitioner for one-to-one therapy, again choose very carefully, as some people advertise themselves as "NLP therapist" after just a few days basic training. Make sure that they have appropriate insurace to practise and that they have clinical supervision. The safest bet is to use the register of qualified NLP therapists, e.g. that on the website of [url]Neuro Linguistic Psychotherapy & Counselling Association[/url], as they are a member organisation of the UKCP.

Hope this helps

Masha

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for those of you guys qualified in this.....did your training change your negative (if you had any!!)thoughts ??

...and yes, my first NLP training (and all the subsequent ones) have dramatically changed my life, from a rather miserable, inconfident feeling-sorry-for-"poor-little-me" about 10 years ago - I am now a psychotherapist, an international EFT trainer, am in a very happy relationship of 7 years (I was especially bad at relationships before;)), am a published author of an internationally acclaimed reference book, and doing the work I thoroughly love. Even though NLP wasn't the only thing that contributed to my personal and professional development, it did contribute a huge amount.

Just to give you a specific example of just how good "good NLP" can be (please bear in mind my earlier warning about "bad NLP") - how it helped me to get my book published: that was largely thanks to a 2-day course with Joseph O'Connor and Robin Prior "Getting Published with NLP" I did in 2000 (I don't think they run it anymore as Joseph moved to South America) - the book proposal I wrote as a result of the course was accepted by the first publisher I've approached and they offered me an advance of several thousand ££ without seeing a single page of the book :). (Please also note that English is not my first language and I have never had anything published under my name prior to that.)

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Greenqueen
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WOW ! Thankyou so much for your responses. I actually feel confident in my choices with your combined advice. Will start the morrow ! x

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Gussie
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That's wonderful, enjoy your research and your treatments, they can be life changing and I expect that they really will be!

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David100351
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Dont want to go down the counselling road(i know already)

Can I go right back to your original post and pick up on the above? - "I know already" refers to thoughts, which, as we have said, do not have primacy in the interior life. Its possible that whether or not you "know already" is irrelevant, the stuff - the conflict created by parts of you that you don't want to accept in NLPese, if you like - could be still active within you and driving more thoughts.

Counselling would definitely help here, IMHO, but my guess is that - if all this is true - it would be very uncomfortable for you, which may be why your whole being is looking for another way...

NLP and EFT are other ways in, but can be used as sticking plasters, or even worse, to brainwash ourselves away from honouring our highest potential. So if you do all that, and in the (unlikely) case of the symptoms returning, counselling would be useful. Not quick or comfortable, and not always providing the answers we feel we want, but effective.

I've said to more than one client in the past: "I'm not here to help you be a more hardwearing grade of doormat" and that's just one example of how one might try and use NLP etc to brainwash oneself into remaining bound to a false conception of who you are, if you get my drift!

I haven't put all this in because I KNOW somehow that it totally applies to you -- a lot of people read this stuff and I felt it should be pointed out.

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