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RE: ABraham

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I am puzzled why they called him the Christ at that point when all you state he was doing was reading from a book? I could understand it more if they had been his own words in the treasure that they are.

I just realised that you seem to have not picked up from the text that from line 19 in that quote from the book Jesus has ceased quoting the book, and from line 21 he is giving his own interpretation of the book? So these are his own words at age 12. This is what astonished the 'learned' there, along with the fact that it's just one tiny episode from two such days.

The Biblical account doesn't quote Jesus' words but tells much the same: that this young boy was discoursing with the learned scribes, and astounding them at his wisdom for one of such an age.

Whether we take the Levi (Aquarian) account, the Biblical (Gospels) account, or simply recount what it is in fact like to be in the presence of such a person, their effect and impact is not only in the words they speak: their auras, demeanor, Light, purity, the glow of the eyes, that indefinable 'something' about them, the extraordinary things that they do and their extraordinarily unexpected and loving reactions to all outer events, the innate authority of the God within them - all this sets such people apart.

If we have been in the presence of such a person - and I don't simply mean a good or very good person, nor even a saintly person, but one who has truly put on and become their God Self (or however we wish to express it) - you know you are in the presence of something extraordinary. Not from any form of spirit-being, but from a real, breathing, incarnated man or woman who has gone on to become 'something more' than man or woman while still alive. It's unmistakeable and there's nothing else like it in the world.

So in this account, and also in such encounters in the real world of today, such rare people exude something by which those around them know: "I am in the Presence of a fully God-Realised Being. I am in the Presence of a Christ / Buddha / avatar." It's completely different to meeting simply another person, or even a wonderfully good person, or a wise or knowledgeable one. It goes beyond all that - as if you are in a wind of Light gusting out from them that could almost blow you over.

So in the Levi account, apart from the words (that we just read on a PC screen), this is the kind of experience they will have had. It's a sudden revelation of the nature of such a person that comes with certain knowledge.

In Light,

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Dear Talisman

Yes I agree but do you feel he was Egyptian?

Dear Venetian

Yes thank you I did miss that above.

I had always accepted that Master Jesus spoke from his GODself from a small child and as we know from the Gospel of Infancy his powers from a baby were beyond comprehension. In fact for some to read this gospel quite a frightening account that he could seriously harm another child just from an angry thought. Truly showing his human yet divine self at the same time. Also another confirmation of 'energy follows thought' and can create negative karma.

Avatars well I think that is another discussion so will not pursue this for all is evolving, but I do agree with you.

It really does make one wonder how the Jewish priests could not be in total awe, (instead of treating him like a novelty) they obviously did not feel threatened by the child on any level.

But once it developed and he grew into adulthood, they could not accept his awesome energy/light. Yet I have the understanding and also know from experience how the greater the light, the more darkness that is brought to the surface. And out of the darkness can come even more light.

There is no doubt that Master Jesus upset and triggered a lot of people's issues hence their will to be rid of him.

Fly divine !

being love

Kim xx


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Yes, interesting thread V.
I posted an article on HP some time back on A-bram/A-braham

Was our Abraham Really the Hindu Deity Ram?

Ram and Abraham were possibly the same person or clan. For example, the syllable "Ab" or "Ap" means "father" in Kashmiri. The prototypical Jews could have called Ram "Ab-Ram" or "Father Ram." It's also conceivable that the word "Brahm" evolved from "Ab-Ram" and not vice-versa. The Kashmiri word for "Divine Mercy," Raham, likewise derives from Ram. Ab-Raham = "Father of Divine Mercy." Rakham = "Divine Mercy" in Hebrew; Ram is also the Hebrew term for "highly placed leader or governor." Indian historian A. D. Pusalker, whose essay "Traditional History From the Earliest Times" appeared in The Vedic Age, said that Ram was alive in 1950 BC, which is about the time that Abraham, the Indo-Hebrews, and the Aryans made the greatest India-to-the-Middle East migration since the Great Flood.

http://www.hermetics.org/Abraham2.html

And I favour the view that 'he' was more a composite being as opposed to an historical figure

The actual composition of the names of the central biblical Patriarchs do give clues to their origins and to their function in the schema.

For example Moses in Hebrew is composed of the letters mem shin heh, transliterated as Mosheh: from the sacred waters (of the alohim, creator gods) the spirit and life emerges
MshH was an intermediary being between YHWH (god) and IShR AL (children of the 'straight way')
In the myth/story, Moses was a High Priest who initiated the Hebrews into actualising their one-ness/connection to the Messiah, which did not succeed...hence the ushering in of the 2nd covenant by YHshVH (jesus)

Abram /Abraham (or Avram/Avraham) in Hebrew is composed of the Hebrew letters aleph bet resh hey mem: YHWH brought this being Abram from the Light (Ur) and gave Life to him (by the inserting of the letter Hey, meaning Life) which transformed him into Abraham, the Father of Nations

He became the symbol of the Age of Aries, an age of the Patriarchs and sacrifice (the Ages are described in the introduction of the Aquarian Gospel in Venetian's link above, but the exact cosmic revolution being 25920 years ...12 ages of 2160 years)

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Dear Roger and Judy

interfaith and multifaith brings such joy to my heart

when we are united like this I feel sure that peace will reign

we live in exciting times

love beyond measure

kim xx


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Yes Kim,

You are so right there! feel it's important to learn what we can about our brothers and sisters in the family of man. What unites us all with our faith is so, so much greater than the differences.

Love and peace,

Judy


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