As HP does not have a multi-faith/interfaith forum this seems to be the best place for this article.
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David Allen Stringer
Vision Quester News Agency
Subject: You just can't kill for Jesus/Allah/Jahweh/Rama/Elvis
http://www.spiderrobinson.com/jesus.htm
FUTURE TENSE #34: You just can't kill for Jesus/Allah/Jahweh/Rama/Elvis...
copyright © 2002 by Spider Robinson; all rights reserved
written 20 April, 2002
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printed in The Globe and Mail 06 May 2002
You just can't kill for Jesus/Allah/Jahweh/Rama/Elvis...
by Spider Robinson
God is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent--it says so right here on the label. If you have a mind capable of believing all three of these divine attributes simultaneously, I have a wonderful bargain for you. No checks please. Cash, and in small bills.
--Robert Anson Heinlein
A few years ago we finally persuaded psychiatrists to remove homosexuality from the list of recognized mental disorders. Maybe it's time we started lobbying them to add belief in God to the list. Belief in an angry, intolerant one, anyway.
I'm told 81% of Canadians believe in God, or at least claim to when asked by a pollster whose expression makes it clear the only other possible stance is satanism. I believe what that statistic actually means is that most of my fellow Canadians realize the universe is larger than themselves, sense there is something higher and better to aspire to, yearn for a deeper understanding of suffering and mortality, have difficulty accepting that twelve billion years of blindly bumping particles just happened to produce their love's left eyelash and Lennon and McCartney, are capable of awe and wonder. I refuse to accept that four out of five of my neighbors believe in a bearded paranoid in the sky who enjoys having His feet regularly washed in the blood of heathens and licked clean, and plans to torture most humans for eternity.
It seems to me that if a religion decides, with an entire planet to pick from, to select as its most sacred spot one already in use by another religion, and to kill for possession of it....then and there, that religion is disqualified. Revealed to be bogus, whatever else it professes or does, until the day it recants. It cannot be a genuine, bonafide religion if it permits (much less requires) spilling human blood for God--it must be either a fraud or a severe mental disorder. If the religion already in possession of the sacred spot spills civilian blood to keep the place...they're disqualified too. Any shaman who believes God wants children orphaned or maimed over the zipcode of His temple is by definition out of touch with God, incompetent to preach.
I'm calling for minimal standards of shamanic competence. Physicians must swear to "First, do no harm," before we let them use a scalpel on a dead frog; it's time we started requiring that much of our soul-doctors. "First, kill no unbelievers..." Any faith that won't go at least that far should forfeit tax exempt status.
All four of the world's major religions are presently in disgrace, and all are hipdeep in denial. How many Arab imams have publicly denounced Arafat or suicide-bombing? How many Israeli rabbis have loudly repudiated Sharon or provocative settlement? How many Hindu or Muslim leaders in India have spoken out against the madness there? How many Catholic cardinals have condemned abortionist-murderers, bishops covering for pedophile priests, or Pius XII's quiet complicity in the Holocaust? I'm sick of all four allegedly godly gangs: I don't even use their product, and I'm disgusted by the shoddy merchandise they peddle. I demand assurances that a given religion will not cause or potentiate mass homicidal psychosis or priestly pedophilia, before we let it indoctrinate helpless children and vulnerable adults. Bloodthirsty, authoritarian theology threatens Canada as much as tobacco, obesity and booze put together, endangers our planet more than global warming, nuclear winter or rogu
RE: You just can't kill
Wonderful stuff Kim,, 101% agree. I expect though that there will be some discusion about the writer's use of Buddism as an example of a non beligerant belief. I just hope that the writer's central message of the wrong of killing in the name of a faith, won't be submerged in an academic discourse.
Leo
RE: You just can't kill
But every people of all relegions have or do kill in the name of whatever god they worship. be it christian or buddhism or whatever. Have you forgotten the crusades? or the spanish inqusition? these were done in the name of god. In some heavely relegious towns in the states if you arfe found out to not worship god or dont go to church every sunday you are found to be a devil worshiper and outcasted. this is one reason i dont believe in relegion or have faith that there is a god. whatever war you can think of it has been for people's religious beliefs. I cant help thinking that if we got rid of religion that the world would be a happier place. I mean I know it is only a few fanatics that take it too far. but all it takes is one man with strong held beliefs and too put those beliefs onto other people and then we get trouble. If one man talks about how a banana is god and he talkks about it so believable and with conviction eventually he will get other people believing that the banana is god. eventually any one who doesn't like banana's is concided a heathen. I know it is silly thinking that a banana is god but it isn't silly for the people that believe it whole heartedly.
RE: You just can't kill
I agree that in a "rea world" this would be a great concept, no killing in the name of religion, colour or creed. But it will never happen. Too much war and violance is focased on religion the Jews being a good example, these people have been hounded throughout time for their beliefs and still have no homeland. Also northern ireland where all sectarian violance and killings are done in the name of religion.
Only when all the world admits that religion is the problem will you have uniformed peace, but even then some one some where will start to believe that they are better than someone else and it will all start again.
Human nature does not sit very well with unified peace, egos fly around, and will always feel that they have the power to do what they like.
With love
Maria
RE: You just can't kill
I don't think that a war has ever been fought in the name of Buddhism. There may be scuffles at present in the South of Thailand but that is in the name of Islam, not Buddhism. It is an anathema to their beliefs to provoke wars in the name of Buddha.
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