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RE: Sun noise

ORIGINAL: Fadette

"the vacuum is far from empty. On the contrary it contains an unlimited number of particles which come into being and vanish without end" "

In Victorian times this was called the Aether. Rather haughtily, 20th century science dismissed the Aether, seeing only a vacuum in space ... but the existence of something in "space" has been coming to the fore again in several guises for decades now - the Aether again.

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RE: Sun noise

I was trying to make a joke albeit a poor one.

Space is not quite a vacuum, although the particle densities are extremely low. Quantum physics postulates that even a perfect vacuum has energy, with particles being constantly created and destroyed, which can be demonstrated by Hawking radiation emitted from black holes.


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RE: Sun noise

ORIGINAL: seraphsleeping
I was trying to make a joke albeit a poor one.

Apologies. Because you are new to the forums we don't yet know you and as such, a short reply like you gave above doesn't initially come across as a joke. But now we know... 😉

Space is not quite a vacuum, although the particle densities are extremely low. Quantum physics postulates that even a perfect vacuum has energy, with particles being constantly created and destroyed, which can be demonstrated by Hawking radiation emitted from black holes.

Ok, so let's assume that all these "Theories" are true (after all they are just theories), the amount of quantum particles in the "vacuum" (for sake of argument) of space still would not be sufficient for us to hear the sound made by the sun. We need a good solid mass of particles to allow the sound to reverberate across space in such a way that we could hear it with the human ear.

Fadette,

Yes, it was worth typing it and I have read it.

E=mc^2 : yes it does indicate that all mass is energy and it just manifests itself in different ways, no problem with that, and I guess you could argue that because you could put yourself anywhere in space and be able to see the light from one or more stars then in that area of space there are light photons containing energy and therefore particles of mass (I'm not going to get into the convo about light not having mass etc. here, let's just keep it simple ;)). So maybe, just maybe there is the chance that sound can traverse the expanses of space via the energy that is all around us, but let's face it, it's still not audible to the human ear.

Newtonian physics should not be dismissed so easily as it sounds like it has been in your book. Newtonion physics provides the requirements that we need to do almost everything that we do in our lives nowadays. Without it we wouldn't even have had a basis on which to start understanding quantum principles. Yes, Newtonian physics doesn't apply down at the quantum level, but it's still a perfectly fine model for larger scale models. (Remember it's impossible to truly model anything accurately as to do so would require a computer containing everthing in the universe. i.e. only the universe can truly model itself!)

also in the book the author describes some New Physics trials on the brain...and that the eyes do not see, the brain somehow sees colours even with eyes closed...and that hallucigenic drugs can access the Hard Reality, as well as meditation.



Interesting but, again, it depends on what level you are looking at it. The eyes do see if that's the model you are using, or they don't see if you're using a different, let's say... energy or quantum model.

People have different models and theories for different purposes and no one mode or theory will suit everything.

Love and Reiki Hugs


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