RE: So much darkness?
Hi David
No I genuienly didn't know the history side. Thanks for the info you provided. I applaud you for your past efforts on threads like this, you always get people to 'think' weigh things up, investigate. I understand why you no longer have the energy to do so but must say in the past you have been so very helpful on matters like this, so thankyou.
Love Sharon
RE: So much darkness?
Magpie your Channellings or what ever you wish to call them are excellent no not everyone will like them but for those that get a message from them they should be left where they are. WE get these messages for a reason & yes they some times come in various forms, same message differant ways.. thats not whats relavent here. the source ,mastere and angels will use many vehicles to get the point across. It matters not what is said or how many times it's said. It's what people get from the different ways it's written. I have absolutly no reason doubt that this message is original & a new form of message. Well done you.;)
David I don't really understand your direct attack.. just because you don't agree or believe it doersn't mean it isn't so. As for knowing who has channelled what ?? Wel you
can't even reply to the right person when their name is just above you on the same page.[&:]
ORIGINAL: Sharon
Hi DavidSo has this type of 'channled message' been doing the rounds for some time?
your answer.....
Dear Patsy,
Has this happened before, you ask? (I am wondering if this is a lead-in question from someone who knows the answer?)
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my answer...... I haven't seen or felt this energy before I channell work to & no doubt some of my stuff will be similar to that of others depending on who is the channell & who the channeller is. I don't rely on books or other people to tell me what or how to believe what i see or hear .I go within myself & if it feel comfortable then I go with it.. if I don't, then i put it aside till one day i may understand it furyher and intergrate it into my life .. then again maybe for me that may never come... Many of my answers come from deep with in me & despite the impression I seem to of put across that I like the dark side this is not so I just accept that we have it within us. all of us . I don't want nor chase demons yet they have been their. Thankfully no longer because I have ushered them back but i know they're there. Thats why i keep my light shining & accept that many have their own paths to walk each our own some very diverse It doesn't matter what you call yourself or what if indeed any lable you give yourself or accept from another.. what matters is that you are truely comfortable .. that you & you alone can look deep within & see that light still shining & your totally happy with what you've got. I'm not saying don't look for clues outside of yourself many people have a lot to teach but at the end of the day YOU are your best teacher no one else .......what matters is that you understand the greatest teacher of all.. that which is inside your soul *GOD*your godself & your divine guidance If that means being prompted guidedby a message to you via a channell or book tv program then so be it... but ultimately go with your feelings on something.
Walk gently in Love Light & peace Maria xxx
RE: So much darkness?
Hi All,
I do have to say this does all seem to be getting rather personal.
Unlike some people on here that quite often feel they state facts, that really are not, they are interpretation,
Magpie is not telling you to either believe or not. He is just relaying something that he leaves up to you to interpret.
My own logic tells me, what a lot of nonsense. But just because i do not understand it myself, it does not mean it is not real for the person relating the message.
My own logic also tells me the person posting was hacking, but who am i to tell others that there interpretation is wrong?
Magpie has given some information, what i do with it is up to me.
I origanally felt uneasy to the others because i felt there were sinister undertones in the thread leaving more vulnerable people open to interpret all sorts from the thread.
I wanted an honest explanation of what was trying to be said.
Magpie has now cleared up his part in the thread with his explanation.
Whether i choose to believe or not is a personal issue.
I have read many people say this is a state of fact or that is when actually there is no real fact only belief, logic, common sense.
My understanding of Magpie is he is only stating the facts as he seems them of his own experience.
So i can only thankyou magpie for clearing up for me what i origanally thought and that was someone was trying to say I KNOW SOMETHING YOU DONT, and they have now found a way to relay that message.
Beth x
RE: So much darkness?
Dear Sharon,
I've been reading a good portion of the posts here, but I may very well have missed some items, please forgive me if I repeat stuff that's been discussed already (In other words: I'm lazy, sue me. :D).
Cent 1: I think all of the spirituality (Occultism, shamanism, christianism, budism, whatever) is there for us to accept life and the world around us. This doesn't mean it's of no importance! After food, drink and shelter I see it as the 4th primary need. Look at it this way: Let's say the world we see is made up of stuff we know (friends, cars, houses); stuff we don't know (math, thoughts, etc) and stuff we can't know (infinity, time, etc).
We need the various forms of spirituality to accept the stuff we can't know.
For the early people, stuff like weather (thunder, rain, an eclipse) were things they could not understand.
They needed something that gave the heavy rain, intence heat or sudden darkness some form of justification: "WHY?!"
For us, science has rationalised (trivialised?) the weather and made us see that it isn't Thor that makes it rumbled, but instead that high pressure field coming from the right of the screen. But in the end, it's still as confusing as what we started with and we still use Spirituality to make it work. (Why do I feel bad, why did my child run away, how can people be that NUTS?!)
Cent 2: Because you need to make out for yourself what makes your world acceptable, all this spirituaility thing is, in the end, about you. I think this is why everybody started talking about the way you see yourself in the beginning of this thread. So that means you also have to make sense YOURSELF of what you make of someone else's behaviour. As for the demons and all the other(S;)) nasty stuff: If you need those to make your world click, then they are definately there. If you don't need them, you can just as easily explain every phenomena thrown at you in these threads and seances throughout the world using only scientifical terms. (especially since Quantum Physics, PHEW!)
For example, the parents killing their child:
1) The parents were under influence from a bad spirit and sacrificed the innocent life to please their malignent visitor.
2) The child was attacked by demons and the parents excorcised the demon succesfully, unfortunatelly the child died, but at least his immortal soul was saved.
3) The parents were influenced by a high dose of a known halucinetic drug and acted irrational.
4) The mother suffers from a cancer in her brain which presses on the front part of her left lobe, making her suffer from halucinations. The father was effectively brainwashed by the mother, convincing him that killing the child was the only possible course of action.
5) they are insane! (my favourite)
so far..
RE: So much darkness?
Dear Patsy,
Has this happened before, you ask? (I am wondering if this is a lead-in question from someone who knows the answer?)
Of course. ‘Modern’ spiritualism began around 1845, and I am not knocking it as a whole; but along with it from Day 1 came whole spiritualistic books about the End Times or about how special the receiver of the message is. It’s normal fare, and for some reason it always happens.
For example, there was the Book of Mormon, or Ohaspe. Look that up if you wish. Etc, etc. On and on.
I suspect that Hugo can add here about how things of such nature go back far more than 150 years, so I will leave that to him.
The point is that these ‘messages’ are always there as a kind of background noise.
They do not come from where people believe they do. I have entered so many threads on this by now! So many threads that I can see it is time to give up, and all must live within their own illusions. I do not by that mean any disrespect to anyone and I truly mean that. God knows, it took me enough years to figure this all out for myself. So I do respect you all, just all of you.
But if I had to summarise into a few words I would say:
Don’t believe all these ‘messages’. Get scientific about how you examine them. Look at the history of such messages. For centuries people have been led astray by these over and over again. Why should you join them?
Needless to say, if actual dates are mentioned, these never turn out. It is more normal to say that ‘things are at a crux and things will be determined this year in which consciousness will rise’. Well, who can disagree with that? I do agree that consciousness is rising in this world yearly. It doesn’t take a prophet to predict it.
This kind of thing has arisen now on HP all the time I have been here, so as of now and this thread I think in future I must give it a rest and let people get on with it. My hope is that from time to time some note may be arisen noting back to these ‘old’ threads. Just to give the URL.
My only wish, ever, was to free people from such illusions. It turns out that they continually arise, and so it is up to individuals to realise what is true, and what is psychic clap-trap. I am just amazed at how gullible people can be, though I do respect them.
Look to the God within, and don’t get fascinated about:
ONE how special you are LOL, and TWO that something is going to happen on a certain date.
Venetian