Hi Whispers,

I've just come across your thread and wanted to say my brother has been ill recently with kidney stones. He is 43 years old and has already had 4 kidney stones a few years ago and knew the signs and signals.

I feel for you and your husband's predicament but his bleeding and discomfort will not go away unless he get's a proper check up and assessment. I ended up taking things into my own hands and rang an ambulance for my brother as initially he didn't want to go to A&E. He was grateful that I rang for him as he was seen in no time at all. He lost quite a lot of blood in his urine and suffered enormous pain in his back and shooting pains that shot down to his groin. He has passed about 3 stones in over 2 weeks. My brother was told that due to losing a lot of weight within a short period of time, it's shifted the stones in his kidneys that would otherwise have remained fine and would not cause any discomfort or pain. He had loads of tests and Xrays to see what strain his kidneys were under.

My brother was eventually prescribed some strong antibiotics and is now waiting for a blue dye test which magnifies his kidney's indepth in order to identify why he keeps on having and passing stones. In the meantime, he keeps on drinking plenty of water, taking pain killers and his antibiotics until he get's his follow up appointment. His urine is still very red at times but this could be also due to a bad infection within the bladder and surrounding areas.

I hope this helps in some small way and I hope your husbands gets to see a professional asap in order to ease his concerns and discomfort.

Best wishes,
Belle xx

Hi Belle,

Thank you so much for replying. Reading about your brother does help, as I don't feel so alone with this.

Hubby said to me tonight his Kidneys are aching a bit more than they have lately. I look at him and think he may look a little bit paler, but then I keep asking myself is that in my mind because I'm worrying?

I'm going to get him in the docs tomorrow as an emergency appointment. I won't be happy till he has seen the doctor again.

I think one of the main reasons hubby doesn't want to go, is he thinks the doc won't be able to do anything and he doesn't want to bother the doctor. He feels like 'Hi it's me again doc'

Thank you again for replying. I really appreciate it.

Whispers. xXx

Hi Whispers

When you go to the docs please take along a couple of samples of his urine with you, so that he can see what is going on. I use jam jars for samples, but any container will do. Get hubby to pee into a jug so it can be transferred to a container easily (you can sterilise it afterwards with bleach or boiling water).

If the doc does fobs you off I'd take him to AandE.

Love and Light

Caroline

Hiya
You can call the doctor out you know if you're that worried!

I have kidney stones, and have had for 20 ish years. I have had other conditions and diseases, and for no other condition or disease have I had a doctor threaten to shoot me if I get out of bed! I also had a doctor offer to drive me to hospital himself to get me to A&E quicker (I was in his surgery at the time!)!

Now your husband, bless him, probably thinks he doesn't want to make a fuss and all that, probably hates hospitals/needles/injections etc. I understand completely! Sometimes I only have to set foot in a hospital to faint. (This can be a problem as my hubby works in a hospital...) However, kidney stones don't need to be a problem. They can be zapped by ultrasound, and then passed without (much) pain.

My dad also had kidney stones, and he used to take Parsley Piert herb. Mom used to get it from a herbalist in Birmingham, but I think you can now get it from Holland and Barrett.

Good luck to both of you.

Hi Caroline, Thanks for replying. We do have an unused sample bottle at home, so he can take that in with him. The last time he went two weeks ago to the docs, the doctor wasn't even interested in the sample though. Which I thought was strange.

Hi ChrisRams, Thanks for replying. You are so right. Hubby hates hospitals, he will do all he can to stay out of them. Even the doctors.

I've never heard of the Parsley Piert herb, is it good and did it help your dad?

Thank you to all who have replied in this thread. Your support has helped so much, and I wasn't even sure I would get one reply. Thanks again. xXx

Hiya

Well I really don't know if Parsley Piert worked - my dad used to swear by it though so something must have happened!

Hi Whispers!

Great to hear you're getting him back to the doctors. I agree with the others advice and should your doctor nor provide you with the answers nor questions you're happy with .... get him to A&E. I absolutely hate hospitals but when it comes to my health, hey, I'm the first to jump on the band wagon to get things sorted! Given that your husband's had kidney stones, he knows what to expect and is probably very worried and stressed about it all, but surely it's better to get it sorted now than cause possibly more strain to his kidney's and bladder later?

Let us know how you both get on!

Belle XXX

Hiya

Well I really don't know if Parsley Piert worked - my dad used to swear by it though so something must have happened!

Hi Chris,

We're going to get some of these. Have a Holland & Barret just up the road from us.

Belle -
Got hubby to pop in the docs today and ask for a urine test to be done. Has to hand it in tomorrow for when they are collected. He doesn't have a doctors appointment, which I'm not too happy about but at least he is having the urine test to check for any infection etc. He only did it because I told him this morning, that I am really worried about him. So he has compromised a little. Why are men so difficult when it comes to needing the doctors?

I have told him straight though, any pains from a stone moving down I'll have him in A&E in a flash. I don't think he'll complain though when he's in pain.

This morning his urine is clear, as he drank tons of water yesterday to try and flush it out. Was up several times in the night and said it's clear right now.

Thank you to all. xXx

I'm helping one with kidney stones problem now and can send
an acupuncture scheme simple enough to do yourself as the points
may be on fingers joints or around the nails.
Just marking the points by a colour pen already may help.
Plus a massage of the corresponding reflex zone on a finger.
Besides, it's also possible to add a similar scheme but regarding
to the moments i.e. the dates some bad events like bleeding
took place.

Hi all, just to let you know hubby went to A&E today as he had severe pain in his kidneys. They performed an X Ray that was clear, both the urine and blood test that were done showed he has no infection etc. They don't know what it is? But they said he is loosing too much blood in his urine.

They wanted to admit him for a couple of days for further investigation but he refused, so has a doctors appointment for Thursday to try and get the doc to bring his scan forward.

I am not happy he refused to be admitted, I am worried sick. He doesn't look well and he stupidly walked out of the hospital before he got his prescription for pain killers because the queue was too long and moving slow, so he can't get his prescription till tomorrow now. Grrrr

Hiya

Men!

He will have to have something called an IVP, which stands for Intra-Venous Pyelogram. They inject radioactive dye into a vein, and then they take a series of 6 - 9 deep X-rays which show the dye's progress through the kidneys. This is not invasive, the worst part was having the extra-strength laxatives beforehand, as anything in the bowel will block the X-ray!

Now for my experience. I had 2 of these, 6 years apart, and after the 2nd one my doctor had a letter from the hospital describing the deformity in my kidneys, which explained all the trouble I'd had since moving to Yorkshire (change of water?). The deformity appeared on the 1st one but wasn't spotted. Humph. By then I'd lost 2 careers due to recurrent bouts of ill-health, and was in constant pain.

The hospital wanted to keep me in too but I wouldn't let them, so I had to go back and forth for a bit. Luckily I lived 300 yds from the hospital!

Kidney problems are notoriously hard to diagnose, and unless there is an obvious cause, hard to treat. Your husband's probably come to the conclusion he will just have to live with it, and is going to try and do just that. Good luck to him: I couldn't but them I'm a wimp.

The good news is you can get down to 10% kidney function before you have problems.

The bad news is that if these conk out you have to go on the waiting list for a transplant, and have dialysis 3 days a week for 8 hours a day while you are waiting. Can your husband face that thought?

Good luck and Reiki blessings

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your reply.

Hubby said the doctor at the hospital mentioned about the dye injection. The doctor was also disgusted that hubby hasn't been referred to a specialist. Hopefully our GP on Thursday can get his appointment for the scan pushed forward and referrer him to a specialist. But I just wish he had stayed as the hospital doctors wanted.

I read your post out to hubby, and he said he knows he's stupid for not going but he can't face hospitals. We are both also grateful for your support and help. I do think he's going to end up back at the hospital in the next couple of days. In a way, I hope he does so we can get this sorted once and for all.

Thanks for your info Chris. It also sounds as though you've had a real rough time. How are you now and how's your Kidney's?