It seems to me from clients I have seen- also friends and family members
that as venetian said, doctors are treating people with depression and we refer to this as clinical depression.
And are prescribing anti depressants and therefore labeling people 'depressed' who are in reality upset, going through a tough time, bereaved, made redundant, getting divorced etc etc....
Please read Mind's information describing depression:
http://www.mind.org.uk/Information/Booklets/Understanding/Understanding+depression.htm
Myarka.
Actually, I would disagree with this part of your post. Although true in many cases, for many other sufferers it is purely genetic or inexplicable. I have treated several clients (and my wife) for whom there has been a history of depression in their family and absolutely no other root cause whatsoever.
So you don't beleive that 'genetic' is a root cause. We carry a pre-disposition to certain illnesses in our DNA; so they are held within the family line - it is more than possible to to work with the DNA and heal the imbalance that is carried and I would say especially with depression.
Some root causes are hidden, and there is research to suggest that many dis-eases are due to pre-birth trauma and birth trauma, which sets up the system for later dis-ease.
Everything has a root cause. Dis-ease has a beginning point, it just doesn't appear as if we were sitting ducks, although in many cases we may feel like that.
Can we get back to ORANGEBLOSSOM please and try to help her,as happens here everyone get carried away and way off the original post.Lets offer our advice and help.
Star99, Nowhere in Orangeblossoms post is she requesting any help. I don't think we are getting off the post at all. It is all very relevant.
So where replies have not gone yet, is in seeking a solution. Clearly that is what is needed. I don't think that can be done well over the net: it'll be between you and him, and if he, himslelf, feels there really is a problem - without being persuaded so - then he should, cliche as it sounds, get counselling. Not pills!
I have to agree with Venetians post on this,or maybe Orangeblossom would like to post her view.
But as I read it, orange blossom has found the solution, for her family at least. She says that her son is now polite and friendly with the family and she believes that he doesn't have a problem with his friends anyway. So in her particular case, the method she used certainly had a positive outcome. And that has to be a cause for celebration, whether or not her son could be said to be clinically depressed. But this thread has raised an interesting point: the difference between feeling down and being clinically depressed. Interesting discussion...
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But as I read it, orange blossom has found the solution, for her family at least. She says that her son is now polite and friendly with the family and she believes that he doesn't have a problem with his friends anyway. So in her particular case, the method she used certainly had a positive outcome. And that has to be a cause for celebration, whether or not her son could be said to be clinically depressed. But this thread has raised an interesting point: the difference between feeling down and being clinically depressed. Interesting discussion...
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I would just be concerned if this is really a solution in the long run,or a temporary solution.I think any behaviour should be thoroughly investigated,as Venetian said we have no comment from the boys point of view.I really hope all will be ok for orangeblossom and her son,
Having suffered recurrent clinical depression in the past, there is no way one can talk oneself out of it. One feels so very miserable, even when there is nothing to be miserable about. It's a very difficult place to be however much one wishes not to be there, and a long slow process out of it.
All the best
Caroline
Hi all
interesting to read all your replies.
Venetian my son is 30.
I do realise from what I read there's severe depression where you are in a black hole and cannot get out and I am not suggesting he was ever like that. Would this perhaps be better described as a breakdown.
The word `depression` according to my dictionary means `mental state in which person has feelings of gloom`. Therefore he did indeed suffer at times with depression.
Maybe it should be measured on some sort of scale, maybe it already is. It is like any pain I suppose, can range from a dull ache to acute agony.
I am not and neither is he, seeking a cure because at the present time anyway he is feeling much better. This was merely an observation on my part that I thought might be helpful for some people not all of course.