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Hi Hawkwind

I have been told by every single nurse I have been to that I have high blood pressure and an old doctor said it was too high but at 26 didn't want to put me on tablets.

Went to my new doctor and he says that there is nothing to worry about so I am at a loss, I told the doc that I was fed up being told that I had high blood pressure only to be told by him that I didn't (well slightly raised but that could be due to the stress of knowing I had to have another test!).

My advise is to not worry about it and relax, do some deep breathing and a bit of meditation before, tell the doctor you are stressed at having all these tests done and could that be the reason your blood pressure is high.

I wouldn't want to go on tablets either and hope that someone has a good trick for lowering it.

Good luck sweety and I will be thinking of you.

With love

Maria

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No Maria don't go on beta blockers, you won't ever be able to come off them!!!

Take Garlic, every day, high strength, it helps to lower BP and keep cholesterol down.

Hawthorn also helps but takes 3 months to kick in, once there it is brilliant, but it can be expensive to buy.

Medical science some 5 years ago upped the BP limit for safety, as it was too low before and people were being put on beta blockers for BP which was well within limits.

If you have 'white coat syndrome' like me, then your BP will be horrendous. My Gp sent me to have a BP monitor coz it refused to go down when he was taking it. The monitor showed a normal, slightly raised (age dear, age) BP within normal limits.

God Bless and love Gillyxxx

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Thanks Maria & Gilly, i have found some interesting links about Hawthorn and Garlic and am printing them out to show my Doctor lol

[DLMURL] http://www.readersdigest.co.uk/health/hawthorn.htm [/DLMURL]

[DLMURL] http://www.readersdigest.co.uk/health/garlic.htm [/DLMURL]

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Cheers for that gilly [sm=hug.gif]- I would never go on them tablets anyway! horrid things - I hate taking tablets and when given anti depressants, only took them for about 2 months then kept forgetting them and ended up not taking them again! lol and yes I did lie to the doctor even tho he could see thet I never cashed in my repeat presecription erk!!!!

I think it goes back to when I had a very bad reaction to maleria tablets in sri lanka and kept being violently sick after about 3 days of them being in my system. I had to have a maleria blood test when I got home from the fact that the doctor didn't actually think I had any protection from them (luckily it ws ok), but after that I could't take anything for about 6 months even paracetomol, but strangly I could take (and still can) herbal remadies no problem!

I will try the garlic (will have to get the tablet form) and the hawthorn and see how it goes. I always hate it when I am aksed to have a pressure test and always get flustered and it is always high! a good book in the waiting room is a must at times like that! lol.

Thanks for the link Hwkwind very interesting, I will be ordering my hawthorn and garlic from holland and barrett tonight lol! - well couldn't wait and ordered them at lunch - the hawthorn ones I was amazed to find in H&B and I also got some Vit B complex as that is good for hormones and stress (had them before - they take about 3 months to get in your system but well worth the wait!).

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Well i have just got back from the Doc and he said my BP was normal ~ phew! but i must go back in 6 months for another check because of my family history, and then again yearly, and continue on the healthy lifestyle, ~ no salt, very little alcohol, and reg exercise, and healthy eating, that way it will be more controlled, i asked him if he new any natural remedies and he didn't but when i mentioned Hawthorn he sounded quite interested and suggested i look into it , if i get high BP as i may when i get older.

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Great news Hawkwind

I have decided that what I do now will help in the future so a few tablets will be fine, I am going to test it tho by going to the doctor in 6 months and asking for a blood pressure test lol!

With love

maria

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Mine used to be very high when I was younger and he told me I would end up having a heart attack or the like by the time I was 40! Let me tell you I was down the gym 3-4times a week either working out or swimming, within 3 months I was lower than the average person....Weight is important but in terms of BP the exercise is much better.

T
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This is taken from 'The Food Pharmacy' by Jean Carper

High Blood Pressure:
Mackerel- a couple of cans a week- can depress blood pressure. Also oat bran and high fiber fruits and vegetables of all types help. Shown also to push down blood pressure: olive oil, garlic, seaweed (kelp), yogurt, green tea, legumes, and milk. Surprisingly, coffee drinking does not cause or aggravate high blood pressure except, apparently, among smokers.

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Hi Berimbau, thanks for the foods guide, allthough i have been a vegatarian now for a week, and i was thinking if this is what has made my BP come down as i have been eating loads of veg and pulses etc and garlic and allready drink green tea, but no fish, fat, as i am dieting too,salt or alcohol . interesting , hmmmm....[sm=scratchchin.gif] i have been eating loads of seeds to replace the essential fatty acids and nuts.

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HELLO JUST NEED TO KNOW THE DOCTOR HAS GIVE ME TRITACE PACK ARE THESE BEATA BLOCKERS THERE FOR MY HIGH BLOOD PRESURE ARE THEY OK THANKS FORYOUR HELP

LOVE AND BLESSINGS CAZWIX[sm=sandrine.gif]

ONLY TIME HEALS ALL [sm=hug.gif]

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Hiya Caz

Babes start your own thread on this in case it gets missed in this thread, ..

T
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Was going to start a thread on this subject as we have recently discovered that my husband's BP is sky high. Our daughter discovered when she took it for him just out of curiosity. She is a nurse and likes to keep an eye on my BP because of the heart problems.
He has been to the doctors and they have given him a thorough 'going over'. He has had blood and urine tests and an ECG. He doesn't smoke, is not overweight, eats a fairly healthy diet. None of the tests showed any reason for his BP being so high. The doctor has put him on pills to try to lower it as it really is very high.
I was interested in reading your tips and will chat with him about them. He doesn't like the idea of being on pills for life

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Hello Maureen,

I'm on three tabs a day to help keep my BP at a normal level. I didn't like the idea either but what is the other choice? I've already survived a stroke because of high BP. At the end of the day, ask yourself what's more important? Hypertension is known as the silent killer and should be taken extremely seriously.

Gina

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Hi Gina
You are so right in what you say. My mother had high blood pressure and had 2 massive strokes, she survived the first which she had when only 46 but the second killed her. So you can imagine how I felt when we found out about my husband's high blood pressure.
I feel we were so fortunate that my daughter discovered the problem and to think she only did it out of curiosity. My husband is 58 and you would have sworn he was in such good health. It is over 20 years since he visited a doctor so this has come as such a shock.
Do the tablets work ? Is your BP now under control ? Have the pills had any unwanted side effects ?
Love and blessings
Maureen

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send love and reiki hugs to you all Maureen...

T
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ORIGINAL: maureen fletcher2002
Do the tablets work ? Is your BP now under control ? Have the pills had any unwanted side effects ?
Love and blessings
Maureen

Hi Maureen,

These are the tablets I need to take every day

AM - ATENOLOL 100mg - BP - Beta blocker
AM - ASPIRIN 75mg - To thin blood
PM - ADALAT 30mg - BP

PM - RAMIPRIL 5mg - BP - ACE Inhibitor
PM - SIMVASTATIN - To lower cholesterol level

I haven't really had any bad side effects yet but I'm very watchful of changes. If you read the leaflets that come with each drug you get an idea of what side effects other people have experienced but you may not suffer the same things. It's a bit of trial and error sometimes. If a particular drug isn't right for you there are plenty of others.

I still get tired but I'm certain that is part of the healing process - not a side effect from the medication. My BP is now under control and I get it checked once a month. I

Men tend to be very obstinate at times and feel they have "failed" in some way if they have to suddenly take a tablet every day. Just kick your husband's backside, give him a hug and get him to the GP to have an M.O.T.

All the best my dear,

Gina

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Maureen

It must have been worrying to find out about your husband's bp, but luckily you've caught it and he is being treated. While no-one likes to take meds, there are many people who go on to live long and healthy lives whiles on blood pressure tablets.

Some people find that with lifestyle changes (eg diet and exercise), they are able to reduce or stop the medication.

Sending love to you and your husband.

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Lesley

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Hi Maureen,

Sorry to hear about your Husband---

My Dad was also diagnosed with very high blood pressure (he's 82) earlier this year, but he only took one course of tablets, and it went right down again--

He's also not overweight/ a smoker, so maybe this just happens sometimes?

I dont want to give false hope, but Dad bought a monitor, and his BP has remained fairly stable--He also found that when he visited Docs, his BP would rise dramatically, as he was anxious--

Hope this helps,

Joyx

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Hi all

I too have suffered from high BP. Once the Dr said it was up (due to pressure at work at the time I think) it shot up every time after that. I have a big hang up about BP as I had three aunts who all died very young because of strokes. But my Mum lived to 90 yrs.

Any way I was so glad to read Gina's post and agree with her whole heartedly. If you have white coat syndrome or worry about the condition buy a monitor if at all possible. I bought mine 3-4 years ago in Boots for £70. It worked a treat for me.

At the surgery my BP could be 190/90 but at home it was on average 128/65. Lately it can be as low as 98/58. According to Linus Pauling large doses of vit C will reduce BP and cholesterol. I take 4 gms a day for cholesterol and this probably accounts for why my BP has gone so low of late.

Hope this helps. Regards Kealy

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Thank you all for your advice, good wishes and support. It really did come as one hell of a shock. As I have already said, he doesn't smoke, carries no excess weight, eats a healthy diet and regularly exercises. He does like a drink but not too much and usually drinks red wine which is supposedly good for you. His BP is as high when my daughter does it at home as when he has it done at the doctors.
He has started taking garlic capsules and an aspirin. Also made him some veg. juice, read that celery was good for lowering BP. Am now looking into the possibility of getting some hawthorn. Attacking it from all angles as he is also taking the tablets from the doctor
Love and blessing
Maureen

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Celery is an excellent detox cleansing agent - I'd just like to know where you can actually buy white celery, cos it all seems to be green nowadays in super markets, largely because it's less effort in the growing. White's better if you can get it. Please don't quote me on that out of context! [sm=rollaugh.gif]

Garlic is a brilliant medicinal herb, of course. So much so that the Krishna's are forbidden to use it as a food garnish, as it is reserved for medicinal purposes only. Idealy, fresh is best (preferable organic), but artificially aged stuff to reduce the smell is good. I wouldn't bother with the oil capsules as there's not enough of the good stuff to make much difference and you still get the smell.

Hawthorn - I don't know anything about on the medicinal front, but it's a very hardy, prickly bush/hedge & indigenious to the UK, that just has to have a serious upside.

I would add to this veritable brew - vitamin C and a copper supplement. These are two key nutrients that are essential in maintaining elasticity in the connective tissues. All our arteries have a supporting layer of connective tissue. A stiffening of the arteries makes them less efficient at maintaining a good supply of blood to the visceral organs and peripheries.

I can dig out references for the copper thing, but in a few examples include:- prevents aortic aneurisms in turkeys, reduces risk of intervertebral disc prolapses. Oh and many find it helpful with arthritis. If they seem unrelated, then I would have to do my sermon on the fact that connective tissue is all that holds us together - from a physical point of view - of course!

Note of caution on the Vitamin C front - if prone to arthritic pain, then a buffered or low acid supplement may be better than increasing intake of fruit, especially citrus fruits. [:@]

Andrew.

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Hi there realise email sent ages ago? How are you now. My bp is now under control with beta blockers but finding i am shattered. Anyone know about beta blockers and electrolytes? As having them checked?

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I suffer from High Blood Pressure (have done for many years). I lost a fair amount of weight last year, but my blood pressure seems to be going up, not down. I am a vegan and I get plenty of exercise, but I know that high blood pressure 'runs in the family'. Lately the Doctor seems to be using me as some sort of Guinea Pig, chopping and changing my tablets and putting the dosage up.

I will take on board all the comments so kindly given here and hopefully start to bring it down the 'alternative' way.

I have also suffered with an underactive thyroid for over 21 years so have been on Thyroxine for that amount of time. (Too long now to be able to sort that out with alternative remedies unfortunately) . I wondered if that had anything to do with my blood pressure problem.

Can anyone enlighten me?

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hi im sure there is a link between thyroid and bp - but cant remember what it is. By the way had to come off betablockers as i was sleeping 20 out of 24 hours!!!!
if ican remeber i'll post here or pm you. love oggs

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Hi everyone,

Is it a known side-effect that beta blockers cause tiredness? I'm tired all the time!

Gina

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definately and thats why i came off them i told the hospital how many hours i was awake - not many and how tired i was. Then i was taken off them but check with your doctor first!!! love oggs

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ORIGINAL: oggs26

hi im sure there is a link between thyroid and bp - but cant remember what it is. By the way had to come off betablockers as i was sleeping 20 out of 24 hours!!!!
if ican remeber i'll post here or pm you. love oggs

Thanks oggs, appreciate that. I have just been out to buy some Hawthorn, so will give that a try. I read somewhere that being on Thyroxine for many years affects lots of parts of the body, including the bones!

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Calcitonin is a hormone made by the thyroid gland (a hormone-producing gland in the neck), which blocks the action of the cells that are responsible for breaking down bone.

bone loss only becomes a problem if there is too much thyroxine in the system, and as the thyroxine you take is only replaceing an loss this should not pose too much of a problem, even in long term, those who are undiagnosed with hyperthyroidism are more at risk.

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pamferr8, thank you for taking the time out to explain.