Hi Everyone,
I’m a newbie to HP, but I thought you might be interested in my story about recovering from a lifetime of suffering from hayfever. I hope it will help some of you get some relief from your symptoms.
For as long as I can remember, I have suffered from chronic hayfever. During the summer months, I would spend most of my time indoors. My symptoms included sneezing fits (tired me out tremendously), itchy eyes, itchy mouth and sometimes asthma. [:'(]
I tried every medicine available from the chemist, and most helped a bit but still I was unable to have a normal life during the summer months. I tried homeopathy for a few years, and that also helped a bit (worked well for the itchy mouth).
A few years ago my partner, who is Crystal Cub on HP, mentioned that a teaspoon of locally sourced unfiltered (v. important) honey each morning might be a good alternative remedy for hayfever, as the body got used to the pollen in the honey and so didn’t get so upset when the pollen came into contact with the body. I found this to help more than the antihistamines had been doing, and it tasted nice! Another friend told me of a source for local honey near him, and I went to the farm to pick some up. This day was to become the beginning of the end of hayfever for me.
The woman I spoke to there was so full of enthusiasm for what she produced, and had so much information to dispense to me (and she still does, every time I speak to her). She spent nearly an hour telling me the benefits of honey, and pollen pills, propolis, beeswax, etc. Having tried all sorts of remedies over the years, I didn’t get too excited at the time.
So, over the next few months I took the honey and pollen pills she sold me. To my astonishment, I felt quite an improvement in my hayfever symptoms. So the following year, I started taking the pollen pills and honey before the hayfever season started to give my body a chance to build up an immunity to the pollen. To my utter amazement, I had almost no symptoms at all that year. I went out into the countryside all summer long, car windows down, through fields of grass, rapeseed, walked past large areas of freshly cut grass… it was a near complete clearing of my symptoms (there were days when I suffered a tiny bit, but much less than I normally would have and only on days when the pollen count was through the roof – and non hayfever suffers where having a bad time).
I had 2 years of no hayfever symptoms. This year I tried taking nothing at the start of the year to find out if the hayfever was cured, or I needed to keep taking the pills. Seems I need to keep taking them, but I can live with that! Since starting the pills again this year (about a month ago), my symptoms this year have cleared up almost totally.
So, the long and short of it is that for me taking pollen pills from around March until August gives me 99% relief from hayfever (and this was the kind of hayfever that could easily put me in bed from exhaustion for 2-3 days).
More information can be found at . BTW – I’m just a happy customer!
I do hope this information can help someone else out there.
Andy
Treating Hay fever with honey,boiled grape fruit and lemon.
Honey, grape fruit and lemon is beneficial in hay fever. Honey is a very potent anti-allergic, lemon is a good source of Vitamin C and grape fruit is a very good cough silencer.
Wow it's amazing how much Manuka is coming up on blogs. I work for a Manuka Honey brand and we'd love to find people to try it for their hayfever / eczema / tummy trouble for future opportunities with magazines.
If you would be interested in learning more please email me lsutherland@pegasuspr.co.uk
Elderflower tincture is a traditional herbal remedy for hayfever. The real trick with elderflower is to start taking it a few days before your hayfever starts - that means knowing what type of pollens get you and keeping an eye on the weather at the right time of year
Thats great news.
My sisters have found that eyebright tea also helps internally to stop the constant streaming & crying that comes with hayfever.
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I used a homeopathic remedy which helps to desensitise you to the pollens, worked fab for me and my family. it's all natural and you take it at the start of each season although you can take it during the season if you have just got it.
It's been a life saver for us. I got it from , it was about £30 but it treated 3 of us and there is some left for next year!!
Heyfever help!
so ive been looking for natural remedies for my heyfever adn dust mite allergies and i was wondering if anyone new anything helpful regarding non-drug alternatives
If you google vitamin C for allergies, you'll get lots to look at. It made all the difference to me, but it should also include a high vegetable wholefood diet, and avoid all the processed rubbish that is offered as 'food' these days!
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Generic Zyrtec (CETIRIZINE) is an antihistamine used to treat both seasonal and perennial allergy symptoms such as watery eyes, runny nose (rhinitis), itching eyes, and sneezing. Cetirizine is also used to treat hives.
Hi all,
Thought I'd post an update.
I'm still hayfever free! Went for a nice long walk last weekend down an old railway line nearby, past fields of rapeseed and went into a lovely bluebell wood. No symptoms at all (rapeseed used to drive me nuts).
Also just finished cutting the grass an hour ago, and the grass had 2 weeks growth. I now actually enjoy the smell of cut grass, rather than being afraid of it!
I attribute this change to the EFT I did with Sejual (Crystal Cub) in 2007. Since that time, every summer has been symptom free.
Woooo hoooo!
lol dont your just love them :)x
symptoms of hayfever come about when the immune system does overreact to a normally harmless airborne particle leading to sign of hayfever sneezing, running nose etc.
you can try garlic, heartseeds or pollen bee , using omega 3 and eating green foods
I understand that in year 1 of taking pollen, starting around easter, the body becomes de-sensitised to the allergy but one may experience a little mild discomfort; continuing taking pollen through into year 2 means that you don't notice the hayfever the next summer. That's what my friends and customers have told me about the pollen they have taken.
I'm not so sure - I expect some people become immune to all pollens, however you should remember there are actually different types caused by different plants.
Chances are that if you're not affected by one type of pollen, you may be affected by another. Probably doesn't happen to everyone and I'm no expect, but I'm guessing hay fever isn't *just* related to the pollen count, but also the *type* of pollen.
Regards,
Stu.
Some years ago, back in the 80's the Doctors that I was registered with at that time provided a course of de-sensitising injections... Unfortunately a number of people suffered severe reactions to the injections and some died from anagalaptic shock due to this...
Exposing the body to pollen through eating honey is not a suitable hay-fever treatment because, as this four-year-old post mentions, it's only effective at doses that can kill you.
I remember this clinical trial because I took part in it. The immediate risk of death was more than outweighed by the promise of a lollipop every time I visited the doctors' surgery...
it's only effective at doses that can kill you.
I remember this clinical trial because I took part in it. The immediate risk of death was more than outweighed by the promise of a lollipop every time I visited the doctors' surgery...
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As long as there was a lollipop at the end lol!
My wife's lifelong hayfever has never returned after I treated her with acupuncture. No one was more amazed than I was, as I was still training at the time, and it only took 2 treatments with 6 needles. Probably not enough evidence to satisfy the "sceptics" or the ASA, but hey, she's happy and so am I.
Please note- this is not an endorsement for acupuncture, nor is it claiming that I can treat hayfever successfully. Please consult your normal doctor, and when you are fed up with ever more drugs, why not try something else.
Strange that David, because I treated somebody who was having an asthma attack and didn't have her inhalers with her. The attack was stopped in its tracks and we cancelled the ambulance. Of course there is no evidence that we can do this, so she probably still had the attack but just stopped worrying about it.
I actually went to an osteopath for headaches. It turns out that there's been no randomised controlled trial of physiotherapy for headaches, but I do feel as if they have gone. I guess I could be wrong about that - they may still be there, but I'm not aware of them. I am going to sue him, however, for putting my life in danger by clicking my neck, because apparently somebody died after a visit to a chiropractor. Or was it a hairdresser. Same thing though.
Please note, the proper cure for headaches is nurofen, and always see a real doctor if you have a real illness. But if it's all in your mind, and you just want somebody who listens, we're waiting for your call. 0800-PLACEBO
My wife's lifelong hayfever has never returned after I treated her with acupuncture...
How old was your wife? It's quite normal for hayfever symptoms to reduce dramatically once you reach your twenties.
Maybe my wife isn't normal, as her hay fever didn't dramatically go away in her twenties. It would be most ungentlemanly to give away my wife's age, only to say that it's somewhat more than the figure in question. Her hayfever did dramatically go away..... after 2 treatments of acupuncture! This was 3 years ago and hasn't returned as yet.
Below is a list of conditions from the British Academy of Western Medical Acupuncture, which includes hay fever as a treatable condition
I'm assuming that as the BAWMA advocate MEDICAL acupuncture that these conditions listed are backed by suitable medical evidence approprate for ASA guidelines, and as medical practitioners they are allowed to advertise the types of conditions they claim to be able to treat.
Western Medical Acupuncture Treatments
Our method of treatment can help many different kinds of conditions. Below shows just a few of the conditions that can be successfully treated.
- Painful conditions such as Oesteo arthritis, Rheumatoid arthritis, sciatica, upper and lower back pain and the many varieties of symptoms associated with these conditions.
- Migraine, Trigeminal neuralgia, facial palsy, sinusitis, hay-fever and many other allergies.
- Some skin disorders.
- Asthma, including infantile asthma.
- Menstrual and menopausal problems.
- Nervous tension.
- Weight-loss and smoking problems.
- Phobias such as the fear of flying
How old was your wife? It's quite normal for hayfever symptoms to reduce dramatically once you reach your twenties.
Hmm, that's interesting..... I used to suffer from heyfever from 35 to 45.... But there again if I were normal I wouldn't be here :D.
Myarka.
Yes, some illnesses do go away, what we see in symptoms is generally a recovery process that needs either the right circumstances or enough time in order to be effective. What I always wonder, however, is how it is that so many problems coincidentally decide the time to go away is just after we treat them. Remarkable luck.
Other things that puzzle me, if our patient has gotten better by the placebo effect, why all the pills and potions they had taken before didn't manage to generate a similarly effective placebo response.
And I am stunned by the sheer number of things that must have been misdiagnosed originally, because according to the orthodoxy, they cannot be cured, and therefore must not have been there to begin with. I have checked, and incurability is not a diagnostic feature of any disease.
I'm assuming that as the BAWMA advocate MEDICAL acupuncture that these conditions listed are backed by suitable medical evidence approprate for ASA guidelines, and as medical practitioners they are allowed to advertise the types of conditions they claim to be able to treat.
Hi David,
Can you point me to clinical evidence which demonstrates the efficacy of acupuncture as a hayfever treatment, and to the section of the CAP Code which you think says "medical practitioners...are allowed to advertise the types of conditions they claim to be able to treat"?
I'd assumed that the BAWMA would have done that, as they are the ones responsible for the contents of their site. Perhaps it needs some upstanding citizen to challenge the BAWMA to support their claims via the ASA.
Personally I try to stay within advertising guidelines.
There is always this trial
or this
and at a push, this
but not this
Hi David,
Thanks for the links; I wasn't aware of the first three studies.
Studies #2 and #3 were single-blinded (and are therefore useless). Study #1 bases its results on a questionnaire, rather than clinically observable outcomes - always a dangerous path to take, and it means that the ASA would probably not be willing to accept it in isolation.
Some of the latest research on acupuncture is producing mixed results, and it's not yet clear how much should be attributed to design flaws and placebo. We'll have a broader evidence base from which to draw five years from now.
I struggle with the idea that the double-blind placebo controlled trial is the only acceptable way of measuring outcomes, especially for acupuncture, for several reasons.
How can you have a naiive practitioner that doesn't known whether or not they are supplying verum or sham treatment? This was adressed in part by training people to insert needles that didn't know if the locations they were given to place them were indeed "real" or sham acupoints. This method fails as acupuncture needles have some effect whenever the are inserted, fake location or not, due in part to the responses of the neurolgical system. Skin pricking with blunt needles also has a similar, if reduced effect. There are also "slow responders" that for genetic reasons have altered neurology that fails to respond well, probably due to different levels of cellular gateways. Unless these are removed equally from both active and control groups, then another discepancy can arise, but as far as I know this doesn't happen.
If acupuncture is so useless, how would you explain the 6,000 or so medical acupuncturists in the UK alone? They can't all be deluded, especially those with scientific training. I know physiotherapists that resort to it when everything else has failed, only to get a good result, and indeed many of my own patients have been in the same position. The effects of acupuncture on the CNS and PNS are now well understood, and it is used to good effect in many NHS pain clinics and physio departments.
I also struggle with the ASA redefining the word "treat" to mean cure. Doctors "treat" incurable diseases all the time.
I'll continue this in the acupuncture section
There seems to be an attempt to steer off-topic. This is not the CAP codes thread, we are not discussing advertising standards here. We haven't come here to create a water-tight case for sceptics, we have come here to discuss ideas and share experiences and observations, in the subject areas about which we are passionate. These are important steps in any scientific enquiry, in fact crucial to the scientific methods.
Yet again we see a spoiling agenda that has nothing to do with truth. Statements like 'single-blinded and therefore useless' are disrespectful to those who care sincerely about knowledge and to science itself. I suspect that slw's position is so biased that he would not swallow a single drop of useful evidence if he tripped and fell into a vat of it.
From the last few posts it is clear that he or she has come here simply to mess with people's heads and attempt to undermine confidence. For that reason I see no purpose in further engagment with this correspondent and his or her incredibly DULL line. My only reason for posting now is to suggest to others that they don't waste any more time either in this way (we can all see where this is heading), and to request some proper moderation to spare us from this poisonous nonsense.
It's quite normal for hayfever symptoms to reduce dramatically once you reach your twenties.
SLW, where is your evidence for this claim?
SLW, where is your evidence for this claim?
I'm not a clinical immunologist so I don't have any.
That's a pity, slw, your argument is underpinned by the claim, it would be nice to know what underpins the claim.;)
In fairness, though, I can't see it presents a problem if hayfever is something that we grow out of. I work on the basis that the human body is entirely self-maintaining and self-repairing, whenever the circumstances allow, and that is what enables me to help. Sometimes the conditions for recovery arise on their own, and that can only be good. Often the patient starts feeling better even in the waiting room, doctors get this effect too.
If we aim to create or encourage the conditions for recovery, then that is all anyone can reasonably expect of us, and it should be all that is needed. The outcome is therefore unpredictable and no guarantees can be made. The only thing I promise is that I will take every reasonable step to avoid making the situation worse, and it is likely that in some way an improvement will be noticed if the patient plays his part. So far I have not broken this promise and most patients do improve.
For that reason, it's probably not helpful to talk in terms of conditions, quite apart from the fact that it is a misleading way to desrcibe the approach. We treat people and not diseases, causes and not effects. The healing is only what is in the patient.