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 Maya
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Not sure if anyone else is following the Gardisil story, but I'm increasingly concerned - the death toll is now 28 and thousands of negative reactions - paralysis etc (just type in Gardisil into you tube, or google gardisil deaths).. even now, they wont withdraw it, they are even promoting it to boys! The US are trying to make this vaccine mandatory - so far one state has obliged.

Has the world gone mad!

[url]Human papillomavirus, vaccines and women's health: questions and cautions[/url]
[url]» Uncovered FDA Documents Reveal 26 More Gardasil Deaths Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind![/url]
[url]Gardasil and Unexplained Deaths[/url]


 
Posted : 26/10/2011 4:50 pm
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My mum got cancer from the virus so I'm all up for it. I think mandatory is a bit extreme but I think the girls should have an informed decision, the MMR jab caused a lot of controversy but in the end, most people seem to be more comfortable having it then the risk of any of the MMR diseases.


 
Posted : 26/10/2011 6:04 pm
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Hi,
I completely agree with you Maya.
There is a vast amount of money behind vaccine companies. Finalshine if you read some of the reports about side effects from vaccinations you would not have such a positive view of them.

An informed choice? That can only happen if children and parents are told the truth about the vaccines but at the moment they are only given one viewpoint and that amounts to scaremongering. Informed choice? Hardly!!

Christina


 
Posted : 26/10/2011 6:48 pm
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So with increased teenage sex, cervical cancer is the way forward?


 
Posted : 26/10/2011 6:59 pm
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This is a difficult one, all new vaccines are treated with suspicion by some people, however cervical cancer kills thousands of women every year and while I am NOT taking sides, we need to keep striving forward to combat these diseases.
I lost my wife to cancer at age 47 a couple of years ago and she tried some new drug (I can't remember how to spell it!), unfortunately it did not help, but we were glad of the small chance it gave her and we hope that something may have been learned about the usage of the drug and that others may have benefited.
I work in the NHS and the fiasco with the negative publicity with MMR properly killed and maimed more children than have been harmed by taking it. We also had to close both of our children's wards last year because of an outbreak of measles. That meant no elective and emergency paediatric surgery in the hospital for about 3 weeks, can you imagine what the parents of children being told they cant be admitted thought about that?
I feel sorry for the relatives of persons who have died or had bad reactions, but how else do we advance medicine and try to halt deadly diseases?
We know that drug companies are in it to make big profits and that they do their best to suppress fatal adverse publicity, but if (and it's a big IF) this drug saves lives, then surely it has to be a good thing?
On the other hand all information about reactions should be made available before people decide whether to take it or not, we don't want anther therlidamide (spelling). I certainly don't agree with it being mandatory.
However given the high death rate among cervical cancer sufferers, I think most would still give it a go.
I feel that the worried well are the problem, try asking a cancer sufferer or there family.

Oh dear, I do seem to have taken sides after all, I honestly did not mean too, but this is how it's come out.


 
Posted : 26/10/2011 10:27 pm
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So with increased teenage sex, cervical cancer is the way forward?

Some would argue that the feeling of 'protection' given by such a vaccine can also be seen as a licence to be more promiscuous...


 
Posted : 27/10/2011 7:56 am
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I think that would be more down to ignorance then if so, I may be slightly biased as like i said, My mum contracted it in a stable relationship with my dad years ago. Condoms and actual protection are all well and good but what about when it comes to trying for kids?


 
Posted : 27/10/2011 9:13 am
 Maya
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I believe there's a bit more to vaccines than meet the eye, here's a good (and well cited) film 'The Greater Good' available to watch for free till 5th November:

[url]Beware of Dangerous Vaccine Effects | The Greater Good[/url]


 
Posted : 30/10/2011 9:28 pm
CarolineN
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I believe there's a bit more to vaccines than meet the eye, here's a good (and well cited) film 'The Greater Good' available to watch for free till 5th November:

[url]Beware of Dangerous Vaccine Effects | The Greater Good[/url]

I watched it all through Maya - thanks for the link. It is heartbreaking to see the damaged children and the pressures, including financial, that the families are put under as a result. One telling chart that was shown was about how infectious illnesses have reduced in the last century with a very low level in 1962 - way before all these illnesses had vaccines created for them.

As for HPV - regular PAP smear test checks keep a good eye on the development of any precancerous cells on the cervix.

... And HOW much money are the pharmaceutical companies spending on advertising?? And what is the information used based on? - fear of getting cancer - but no information about the risks. No way to inform 12 year old children for making a balanced decision.


 
Posted : 31/10/2011 10:42 am
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