And I feel really strongly that this starts with us as individuals.
OK so take my situation on the bus with five yobs. Do I risk getting killed, and at the very best going to court for beating up 5 youths because they attacked me first? (All being as big as me.)
Sorry, but I think the answer is much more deep and complex.
V
OK so take my situation on the bus with five yobs. Do I risk getting killed, and at the very best going to court for beating up 5 youths because they attacked me first? (All being as big as me.)
Sorry, but I think the answer is much more deep and complex.
V
So what did you do about it V?
Rx
OK so take my situation on the bus with five yobs. Do I risk getting killed, and at the very best going to court for beating up 5 youths because they attacked me first? (All being as big as me.)
Sorry, but I think the answer is much more deep and complex.
V
Do you really think you would of got killed?? Offensive lyrics was also going on when I was a kid, remember the sex pistols F..ggin in the R...... lol I remember a girl in school switching the records over at the school disco & that blasting out & the teachers rushing out of the staff room........oh how we laughed & laughed..but no one got hurt!! Not all kids are killers..infact very few are...now another point is that perhaps we are suffering a little from fear..& no thats not me saying there's not a problem, just that fear can fuel the problem thats there already rather then give people the will to address it solve it....and to fear someone/something is to give it power
What would I of done in your situation....I probably would of turned around shouting somthing like do you mind, depending if I had my own kids with me or not & then complained to the the bus driver & get them kicked off tbh
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I had a tough one a little while ago too, V. I was driving up the slip road next to our local A road (the A3) when I saw a group of about 20 kids chasing one boy: I was worried they would chase him onto the A3. I was on my own, and didn't have my phone. What I wanted to do was stop the car, bawl them out, take the hunted boy in, and drive off. But I didn't because there were so many of them and they were scary. So I drove home (3 minutes away) and called the police. I don't know what the upshot of that was. Most unsatisfactory.
So what did you do about it V?
Rx
V, please do not feel obliged to answer that, my apologies for my directness. But you understand where I am coming from.
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The point I make is that it is absolutely in our power and IMO our responsibility to do something in this type of situation. But if we do nothing at all; that is IMO very, very wrong. We have a duty as adults and members of our local communities to react in someway to anti-social behaviours. If we react in a benign fashion to our youth’s bad behaviours then we hand them power that they are not equipped to handle correctly.
This does not mean we have to put ourselves in harms way, but we should never walk away and pretend it isn't happening because it is and one day it may happen to you.
There are so many ways we can positively affect anti-social behaviours in our society without putting our lives in danger.
Rx
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To this day I have received no explanation from the police as to why they wouldn't respond on the morning in question or to the shop staff the previous evening.
Hi Dunkirk
May I ask if you have chased the Police and your LMP on this matter?
What I did about it was to use the complaints procedures that are in place, i.e. writing to the police authority and contacting my local councilor.
I did rescue the young lad who had taken refuge in my front porch and I did tell the youths that the police were on their way ( luckily they believed me and left ).
My local councilor has had discussions with the chief constable who has assured him that 'these matters are treated very seriously'. However, talking to neighbours and the local store manager I get the impression that the police usually treat these matters as being quite trivial when ordinary members of the public report crime or anti-social behavior.
The police are usually fairly active in the town centre on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights. This is because these areas have a high density of pubs, clubs and bars and there are lots of incidents of fighting and anti-social behavior. It's also high profile.
The local press can do features on 'town centre policing'. The police use horses as part of their patrol. The arrest targets can easily be met, the police can demonstrate that they take anti-social behavior seriously and let everyone know about it.
When we consider the public relations aspect of the high profile verses responding to a call by a member of the public, then the high profile stuff wins every time.
The member of the public could be exaggerating the problem, the incident could be over by the time the police arrive and of course there is the mountain of paper-work that needs to be filled in.
The public relations and target culture imposed by the government distorts priorities and in the end those who shout the loudest are the only winners.
Dunkirk
Hi
I thought some posters here maybe interested is reading this from the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6937537.stm
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s**t happens on planet earth I guess
Please dont take this personal, but I HATE this phrase, this isnt a parking ticket when you dahsed into the newsagents to buy a newspaper. It reflects a lack of concern for anything which is valued to others.
I haven't taken in personally 🙂 and I know it's not a parking ticket...
I guess that I don't do ironic very well... 😉