Which brand of Flower remedies would you recommend?

Hi Nel

I'd say choose which one you feel most "drawn to". Bach Flower remedies now is owned by Nelson's. Healing Herbs is owned by Julian Barnard who used to work for Bach - I use these as I feel energetically they suit me better if I am looking for the "Bach" 38 remedies. Australian Bush Flower remedies seem to be very popular too. There is a book called "A compendium of Flower Essences" by Clare Harvey, Peter Tadd and Don Dennis that covers a wide range including the Alaskan, Findhorn and other essences. However if you are really drawn to working with flower essences it may be worth seeing if you can find a workshop or short course that will show you how to make your own which can be particularly helpful if you are drawn to something very native to you which doesn't feature in anyone else's catalogue.

Thank you earthbabe.:)

I am leaning towards both Healing Herbs and Ainsworth really. I read on the site 'Naturally Thinking' that the Bach Remedies produced by Nelsons are not quite what they once were shall we say and they are trying to push the Ainsworth Brand more.

I do rather like Ainsworth for my homeopathic stuff so I do trust them but for some reason feel pulled towards the Healing Herbs brand and yet even another brand called Crystal Herbs.

I want to build up a few stock remedies for home use but I guess I want to be reassured that I am choosing a reputable producer.

Nel xx

I use crystal herbs and find they're good. I particularly like the option of the 10ml bottles as they're cheaper and so easier to build up a collection of them.

I know what you mean about the change in the Bach Remedies. My husband and I did notice that and I think that is why I feel more comfortable with the Healing Herbs ones. The energies are different. I've not heard of the Crystal Herbs ones before. They sound interesting. I'd go with your intutition. If you buy a couple and they don't suit there are others to choose from and you may find yourself building up a "stock" from a variety of sources depending on your specific needs. I do that with essential oils as for some oils that I use for their energies rather than in massage I prefer to buy organic or wild-crafted as the energies tend to be cleaner. I will eventually buy these for everything but in the meantime I have found a couple of suppliers whose oils I can rely on even if they are not organic etc.

It will be interesting to see how you go and what decisions you make

and you may find yourself building up a "stock" from a variety of sources depending on your specific needs. I do that with essential oils

Yes snap lol - that's exactly what I do too!!

I'm incredibly fussy on that score it seems aswell - I've been very impressed with Fragrant Earth and Culpeper for awhile now though, however had thought to buy the odd thing from Kobashi and Butterbur & Sage since they come highly recommended on the Aromatherapy Forum.

Nel 🙂

For certified organic and wild crafted I generally go to materia aromatica although I have seen good things posted about the companies you mention.

I am off there right this mo to have a nose (no pun intended lol).

Flowing flower - have you been pleased with your Crystal herb flower remedies then? I must say the packaging is very appealing and pretty - trouble is I am trying not to let packaging cloud my judgement.

I sometimes wonder if as long it's packaged all 'perdy' I'd end up buying dog dirt because I get so swayed.

Repeat: I must be strong and sensible!
I must be stong and sensible!

Nel 🙂

Yeah I've always been pleased with the crystal herbs remedies. Suit me just fine! They're quick and well packaged etc and I like the information on the website etc.

Hi Nel
However if you are really drawn to working with flower essences it may be worth seeing if you can find a workshop or short course that will show you how to make your own

Your own essences is the very best brand you can ever find.
That was Bach intention to have everyone doing his own remedies.
He simply make a partnership with Nelson for all those who can not afford to do it.
So at the begining the Nelson remedies were supposed to be for those living in cities but Bach remedies are suposed to be home made ( well it is not really home is it much more countryside made).;)

Nowadays you can hardly find an essence producer who follow Bach instructions as little as Nelson remedies does.

The Bach remedies from the Nelson range aren't made with wild flowers, aren't organic, and ... a too long list of thing done improperly.

If you are looking for reputable producer beware:Many will swear you Nelson is a reputable producer.
So be carefull.
In essence from a reputable brand is far from being enought.

You are talking of a product who has to be made in an ethical way because this has an incidence on his potential.

Healing herbs are organic and really good.
Julian Barnard is just a fantastic personn who was the first to fight to the purety of the Bach essences.
Having work on the Bach center give in an insight on what was wrongly going on.
If today there is some ethical back in the Bach remedies that is due to his dedication.
Without him, nobody would have know what was going on with the Nelson remedies, and everybody will keep buying the Nelson stuff eyes close dreaming it was the best possible.
So by buying Julian Barnard essences you are safe for the quality and in some way you can help reward his dedication because what he has accomplished have not being an easy task.

There is some others brand who might not be as well know but who are also totally worthy.
I like very much the vibration of the Sun essences and some others brands you may not be able to buy.

You may find the essence of one special flower suits you better from one range and an other from an other essence maker.

The bach flowers essence is a vibrationnal world..
You need an open mind to use them...
Do not deprived yourself of one brand because it is not well knowed.
The efficience of an essence lie on his vibration not on the advertising put with it or on the number of resellers who can sell the range.

Before trusting one brand try one essence of the range you think about.
Buy it only if you are confortable with it.
Your are buying vibrational remedies..so fell the vibration, that is the best (if not the only valuable) way to choose a vibrational remedie.

Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the Bach Centre in Mount Vernon, Oxfordshire still making the mother tincture for all the Bach Flower Remedies.

I too like Crystal Herbs and I think their vibrational healing remedies are excellent and come highly recommended.

Luv Binah
x

Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the Bach Centre in Mount Vernon, Oxfordshire still making the mother tincture for all the Bach Flower Remedies.

Yes Binah, I think you are perfectly right:
Nelson use the mothers tinctures given by Mount Vernon.

Your own essences is the very best brand you can ever find.
That was Bach intention to have everyone doing his own remedies.

A nice dream but not practical. Not everyone is going to want to make their own essences, that's why we have essence producers.

I make some of my own but not all of them, I'm quite happy to use what has been produced by others to help animals and people heal.

I use all of the Alaskan essences (very comprehensive set) and I love working with them. I also use Bach, plus Silvercord fungi essences and a few others in the range.

A nice dream but not practical. Not everyone is going to want to make their own essences, that's why we have essence producers.

I will not call this a dream.
And Not everyone is going to want to make their own essences is right and saddly and trully problematic I think.
For me Edward bach wasn't a dreamer.Far from it.;)
He was a very clever person.:)
He was also the creator of the flowers remedies and all the philosophie behing this way of healing.
"Heal yourself" is not a fancy trendy advertising slogan.
"Heal yourself" is what you are supose to do if you want to really make the most of the flower essences.
Making your own essence help you understand better the process going on.
Vibrationnal healing that mean absollutly nothing for ...95% of those who use flower essences no?

So of course today life/world doesn't allow everyone one to do the 38 essences.:(
Bach was a realistic person he was aware this could happen.That is why he approach Nelson and ask them to make the remedies and sell them at the lower cost possible.:p

The bach remedies are design to make you in charge of your life, in charge or your well being, in charge of your evolution.
Bach flower remedies allow you to be responsible for yourself.
YOU are part of the process, YOU are the clue of your sucess.You and your dedication to yourself.

( I do not mean you personnaly ok? just you as the person)

Of course everyone could not find all 38 flowers but how many miss the real efficiency of the bach remedies by using it the same way as allopathie?
You go to see a doctor (or bach practitionner) explain what is wrong and ask for a prescription you kindly follow ...or not...

Where is Heal yourself in all this process???? :confused:

Heal yourself is lost...and I find this a real shame because in all that that is efficience which is lost.

There is no way to heal the whole planet.
Doctor Bach was right: everyone has to be in charge...but it doesn't happen this way so the process is slow down because the prise in charge is missed.:(

For years I have been a teacher in Bach remedies.
For years I have try to learn how to use the bach remedies (any basic book on the subject can give you the bases in one hour) and all this time? I was nothing more than a consultant in Bach flowers.Everyone comming to me to have advice on what I think would suits them best.Where was YOU :confused:

So for anyone I was in the prescriptor position.
I totally disagree with that.
Now I consider myself as a practitionner but that not what I wanted to be...I wanted to be a teacher in Bach remedies.
For my point of view being a practitionner is much more rewarding.
you change life of those who come to see you and for that they love me..that is really great...but that is so little in compraison of the result I could obtain if only I was able to be a teacher.

Being a practitionner is rewarding.
Being a teacher is usefull.
There is a HUGE difference.

If you want to know..in my dream world ALL user of Bach remedies should know to make an essence and should try to make at least one.
I really think that is important.
I have push all my students to make at least one essence...they were are afraid, all unsure..but all who have did it have change deeply their understanding of the Bach remedies.Now it's not a knowledge they have from someone else.
Now Bach remedies are part of them.

For my point of view by removing the essence recipe for the last editions of "The Twelve healers and others remedies" the Bach center have cause a huge damage to the Bach method and to his diffusion.

Using bach flower remedies should come with some basic required.
When you use homeopathie/ allopathie/ aromatherapie there is rules you have to knwo and follow.
When you drive, there is rules too.
Why when you mix healing and driving (of your life) could you do it without any adknoledge of any rules?
Rules one: What is a flower essence 😉
Know it from the inside, and after ?ok buy all essences you may need or want.
But at least you will do it knowing what you buy and use.
I think it is really important to know what you are buying especially when it something as powerfull as an essence, something which action go to the deep core of your person
Knowledge is the best way to choose efficiently and wisely.

We lose track.
In schools, kids drawn fishs as square with eyes because they believe finger fish are real fish.:(
What essence users think flowers essences could be?
Whatever is was it is often far for what it shoudl be....

I know how essences work, I have been working with them for many years, make my own etc, etc and I know a lot about healing too.

You don't have to understand a therapy inside out to benefit from its healing. That's impractical. I feed my dog, but I don't make its own food. For everyone in life there is a role, some of us are bakers, others architects, others teachers.

It is unrealistic to say that 'everyone' should make their own essences.

I do because this is what I do every day, but I don't expect Joe Bloggs to make his or hers.

Choosing an essence is very simple, you choose what you are drawn too.

Why do we have to complicate it????

Well I did indeed plump for buying from 'Healing Herbs' on this occasion simply because I kept being drawn back to that brand.

Lobellia it is very refreshing to see someone so passionate about the things they believe in but I agree with what Rosi1 says about not over complicating matters.

Holistic therapies are open to us all at whatever level we feel comfortable with and when seeking advice on furthering our knowledge it's nicer to feel encouraged rather than criticized.

Nel 🙂

Why do we have to complicate it????

I am not sure of understanding well of what you are underlying.:
How does a little ( or basic) understanding of something as simple, would be to complicated it :confused:

Bach method is a very simple method.
There is nothing complicated in it.

I think those who complicated it are those who try to hide how simple it is and how it works.For me the result is to wrap Bach remedies in a kind of mystery.

Mysteries are for the fews happy clever ones who can understand them.
Easy stuff is for anyone.
Bach remedies are accessible to and for anyone.

There is no mysteries in Bach remedies.
Bach world is a simple world.

Holistic therapies are open to us all at whatever level we feel comfortable with and when seeking advice on furthering our knowledge it's nicer to feel encouraged rather than criticized.

I totaly agree with you anyone has level were we are confortable.
I simply said/ think the level of Bach remedies is a very small one.
No need to studies or to be especially clever, clairvoyant...nothing.

A 4 year old kid can perfectly understand the bach remedies if someone explain him things and keep them as they are: simple.

Edward Bach has dedicated his life to give something accessible to anyone.
Nowadays there are many people who act as if the knowledge was only them.

That is a true lie.
Knowledge is for everyone and should/must be free.

it's nicer to feel encouraged rather than criticized.

All my apologise if I have give you this feeling of criticizing someone in this exchange.
I was not criticising anyone.

There is just a situation who should not be as it is.
You would be surprise on how many practitionners in Bach (or flowers) remedies I have meet who try to make the flower remedies looking something tottally inextricable and confusing.
By this way they try to give their patients the feeling they are needed.
That should not be this way.
Flower remedies must be for anyone.

I really think noone need practionner in flowers remedies.
When some one said he needs me I always answer:
"you do not need me, you need the flowers".

That is totally different.
I, nobody can be available to and for anyone all the time...nobody except yourself.

"I can hold your hand some time but you can do it alone"

Pleople are clever and strong enought to old their owns hands (life).
Putting them in a situation of dependance is just simply wrong.
Noone has the right to do that..especially not those practicing the essence.

I have no intention of being offendant so as it seems I have been, please receive my apologise.
I am going to do my best and be more carefull to avoid this happen again you can be sure of that 😉

No apologies necessary - like I say you can't help but respect people who have a passion for their subject, it's very refreshing!!

I would just say that in your passion though you put things across in a rather challanging way, as though you expect to have to defend your beliefs, when in actual fact we all share the same desire to grow and learn about the things that interest us and that we believe in. In that regard I should think you have a wealth of knowledge to impart and I look forward to reading more.

All the best.
Nel 🙂

I am not sure of understanding well of what you are underlying.:
How does a little ( or basic) understanding of something as simple, would be to complicated it :confused:

Bach method is a very simple method.
There is nothing complicated in it.

I think those who complicated it are those who try to hide how simple it is and how it works.For me the result is to wrap Bach remedies in a kind of mystery.

Mysteries are for the fews happy clever ones who can understand them.
Easy stuff is for anyone.
Bach remedies are accessible to and for anyone.

There is no mysteries in Bach remedies.
Bach world is a simple world.

I meant that you are complicating the use of essences. I'm already aware that it's simple - but you are saying everyone should make their own essences, and speaking about a complicated way of choosing them.

Why are you complicating it?

The essences are already out there for people to use, and choosing them is simple, choose the ones that resonate with you.

I really think noone need practionner in flowers remedies.
When some one said he needs me I always answer:
"you do not need me, you need the flowers".

Needing someone is not the same as needing someones help. Two very different things and practitioners of flower essences are there to help those that come to them heal themselves. They offer a helping hand, nothing wrong in that.

And as I said before, not everyone wants to be a baker, some people want their bread baked for them.

Not everyone is going to want to blend 7 or 8 essences together, those that don't will ask for help from those that do the work every day. Nothing wrong in that.

Gosh my remedies have arrived this morning - that was nice and quick wasn't it.

Nel 🙂

I have used the Bach Remedies for several years and I am as happy with them as I have ever been. Though that is not to say that I would not be interested in learning about other types 🙂

The Bach Remedies are simple, but I found I learnt a huge amount and really deepened my understanding, by completing Bach approved workshops one and two. I hope to do the Practitioner level at some point 🙂

Barbara x

I meant that you are complicating the use of essences.

Please Rosi ,forgive me, but I didn't intend to complicated something which is so simple that a 4 year old kid can understand it.

but you are saying everyone should make their own essences, and speaking about a complicated way of choosing them.

Why are you complicating it?

Ok I am going to try to make it short and if possible hopefully easy to follow for a change 😉
1 I didn't mean everyone should make ALL their own essences.
I mean it would be great if everyonecould try one time, to see and realise how easy it is and to understand it better.
2 Bach flowers are easy to understand and choose,
I do not remember myself saying anything about a complicated way of choosing the essences.
I write and use the word "confortable", a 4 year old kid would be able to understand...If I can say Rosi you seem to totally disagree with my point of view and my way of working and I am perfectly fine with that.
I didn't came on these forums to change your or anyone else way of doing things.
I came for exchange to give my point of view and read about others and learn what I can.
I am aware and hope not everybody has the same opinion than mine and it's perfectly fine for me.
Sharing something doesn't mean want the others to stick to it.
I think many try to complicated the Bach essences and for my point of view any practitioner in Bach flower essence should do the oposite.

It seems I have again express myself badly when I write something about choosing the essences we are confortable with.
For me choose something we are confortable with should NOT be complicated.
If we are confortable it's ok.So we keep going on with these range.
If we are not confortable that mean it's not for us.

What is complicated in that :confused:

The essences are already out there for people to use, and choosing them is simple, choose the ones that resonate with you

Rosi don't you think we simply speak about the same thing really?

You use the verb "resonate" I am not sure a 4 year old would follow the meaning of this concept as easily he would with "confortable"By putting myself to the level of understanding of a 4 year kid I do no expect myself I would complicate anything 😉

Basically we are saying the same thing, I just do it with simple words....kids words, I though easy to understand with little effort.
So please be kind try no to put things too complicated behind anything I could write.This seems to be a simple misunderstanding which should not have occurs.
I try to use basic words for talking of simple things as much as possible.
I am sorry if my way of putting things make them look so awfully complicated.It was far for my intention.

🙂

And as I said before, not everyone wants to be a baker, some people want their bread baked for them.

Not everyone is going to want to blend 7 or 8 essences together, those that don't will ask for help from those that do the work every day. Nothing wrong in that.

Rosi you need at least some skills to be a decent baker or if not, nobody is going to enjoy (or even eat) your bread.
To choose a Bach remedie? Tthere is NO need of ANY skills.
If you have feelings and are able to listen to how you feel and how you are (as a 4 year old kid is able to do) THEN you can EASILY choose the suitable essences.

Bach flowers remedies doesn't require skills.
Like a pen any one is able to use/choose them.
Give a pen to Leonard de Vinci he might not draw exactly the same drawing as anyone else but anyone with one eye and one hand and more than 2 years brain would be able to put a mark, start of a drawing on the paper.

Any one, able to read a leaflet with a short description of the 38 flowers can choose his own bach remedies.
I thought that years ago and I still think the same.
I am sorry you disagree with my point of view but that the way I trully feel.
If I can add one thing I am sorry (because you seems..a bit chocked of me daring to write and think what appears to you as such nonsense)..but I am not surprise.There is plenty as you all around me daily.
And you know what dear Rosi? I am so use of them to disagree with me so be sure..it's not the first time nor it's going to be the last time this happen to me 😉

Lobellia, I don't disagree with you, and I agree that anyone choosing essences for themselves just needs to read the descriptions and it should be quite straightforward.

It gets a bit more complicated if you are mixing essences together to help not only with mental and emotional complaints, but with physical conditions also.

Lobellia, I don't disagree with you, and I agree that anyone choosing essences for themselves just needs to read the descriptions and it should be quite straightforward.

Oh extra coool!!!! no more misundertanding. 🙂 🙂 🙂
Better than that we both agree 😮

It gets a bit more complicated if you are mixing essences together to help not only with mental and emotional complaints, but with physical conditions also.

If it was easy it would not be so "funny" 😉 and so rewarding when you manage to unloked it :rolleyes:
So OK, everybody, including you , should be right:" practitionners in Bach remedies can be usefull ...sometimes".

Just thinking about to change my communication and advertise myself for deseperate case only !!!!. :rollaugh:

Lobelia, thank you so much for this sharing...

I, nobody can be available to and for anyone all the time...nobody except yourself.

"I can hold your hand some time but you can do it alone"

Pleople are clever and strong enought to old their owns hands (life).
Putting them in a situation of dependance is just simply wrong.

I send Love and thanks for your words....

( Sorry everyone, for I just like looking at flowers and enjoying the smell of them as I wander past... I shouldn't really be posting here, but I have returned so many times to read these words and just wanted to say thank you. For me, they just are so so meaningful. )