Hi all,
DEFRA intends to slaughter Shambo, the bull in the temple at Skanda Vale, because he is SUSPECTED to have bovine TB.
Now, suspicion is not proof. There is every possibility that Shambo does not have bovine TB at all. And even if he had, it IS curable. Still DEFRA seems determined to kill him.
Full story in:
[link= http://www.skandavale.org/shambo.htm ]http://www.skandavale.org/shambo.htm[/link]
Please read the full story and sign the online petition to spare Shambo's life.
More in fo in:
[link= http://www.hfb.org.uk/ ]http://www.hfb.org.uk/[/link]
Thanks.
Prashna
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I think what spinal music was getting at was more a philosophical concept of at what level of development does life become meaningful to us? The same topic came up when I was posting from India, re: Would you kill a mosquito? (Yes, many!) We obviously do kill life and for good reason. We kill microbes for example. So I'd guess Sharon is asking, "When is it worth the fuss? At what point?"
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ORIGINAL: spinal music
Prashna, I don't think my point about the foot and mouth epidemic is irrelevant at all. There is a clear parallel about the prevention of infection.
As for your second point,...It's never life at all costs.
As for your third point, I have no doubt of the love that people feel for this bull. I think it is out of proportion within the wider context of the world. But as you indicate, that is just my opinion and you may be of the opinion that compared to providing fresh water toa couple of villages in Africa, say, or doing something, anything, to stop this war in Darfur, this bull's life may be worth it. I rather like cattle myself.
Sharon,
I regret to point out the obvious flaws in your reasoning. I hope you will forgive me.
1. The foot & mouth and other tragic examples you coted are irrelevant IMO. The differences are clear and stark
(a) Farm animals, cattle, sheep, fowl are reared by the farmer for one purpose and one purpose only. To let them live to the ecenomically most viable extent, then sell them for slaughter or slaughter them directly to maximise profit.
The motive is profit, pure and simple.
Shambo was never kept to provide meat for human consumption. Nor is he likely to end up on someone's dinner table, ever.
Shambo is and always has been a pet. All this talk about 'sacred bull' is just befuddling the issue. The nearest comparison is a pet dog or cat. I wonder how many pet dog or cat owners in this country would be equally keen to put down their pet at the merest whiff of suspicion of an infectitios disease. I suspect they would want to be sure and would like to have their pet treated and cured, if at all possible. Same with shambo.
(b) To fulfil that motive they are reared at close, even cramped conditions. Battery farming is an obvious example. Bulls and cows, normally vegetarian, are fed with animal products to maximise the meat output, which was a contributory factor in BSE.
That close rearing makes it easy for any infectitios disease to spread quickly. Hence the need for rapid and lethal action.
Shambo was never kept under those conditions. Now he is effectively isolated. So the risk if any is minimal.
(c) Certain of those diseases like BSE for example have no known cure.
In contrast TB does have EFFECTIVE CURE.
2. I have never said "It's never life at all costs. " To imply otherwise is simply misinformation.
3. No one has prevented you from saving life in Africa or providing water for villages.
No one will think the less of you if you ignore this petition.
If the people who love shambo, spend their energy to prevent this needless slaughter, then surely that is their businesson which they are fully entitled to spend as much energy as they can.
Why are you so concerned about it?
Prashna
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I regret to point out the obvious flaws in your reasoning. I hope you will forgive me.
1. The foot & mouth and other tragic examples you coted are irrelevant IMO. The differences are clear and stark
(a) Farm animals, cattle, sheep, fowl are reared by the farmer for one purpose and one purpose only. To let them live to the ecenomically most viable extent, then sell them for slaughter or slaughter them directly to maximise profit.
I have to point theobvious flaws in your own reasoning. I would point out that family pet cattle, looked after by farmers and their children,were slaughtered due to TB.
I wonder how many pet dog or cat owners in this country would be equally keen to put down their pet at the merest whiff of suspicion of an infectitios disease.
Again irrelevant you quote MRSA. If you wish to cite an infectious disease that is pertinent to pets, then perhaps you should cite Rabies. Another disease that can cross infect.
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Dear Prashna,
To begin with I wasn't that concerned about it: hence thisshort entry.
I am so pleased to see Healistic's quotation. I think this is being blown out of all proportion to issues in the wider world.
Sharon
You responded with getting on for 30 lines andthe subject expanded. It's been quite an interesting discussion, but perhaps we shouldn't have had it here on your thread. that's why I asked
On the other hand do you think as I couldn't helpI shouldn't have posted?
I think I've already stated the reasons for my concern - but as you say, and as I've said already, each to their own.
Sharon
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ORIGINAL: Prashna
Shambo is and always has been a pet. All this talk about 'sacred bull' is just befuddling the issue. The nearest comparison is a pet dog or cat.
I don't see why it is befuddling the issue? The whole reason for the uproar about the proposal to put it down is because the bull is sacred to that religious community.
Yes, people love their pet dog or cat, but not everyone treats them as sacred as this bull is being.
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Love and Reiki Hugs
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I live not far from the community in question and have visited it many times over the years. It is a sanctuary for all of life. Shambo is not being protected because he is necessarily more sacred to this community than the other lives under the community's protection, though the bull does have associations with Shiva.
The monks take Franciscan vows and the community respects all religions and all life equally. No-one who visits is ever asked for donations. Everyone who visits the community is fed and housed free of charge. They run a hospice free of charge. They respect life.
The real point is that Shambo has a right to life.
On an earlier post Energylz, you said "One would assume that the fact Shambo hasn't been put down already is because, not only are they considering the sensitive nature of the case, but they want to actually carry out further test to ensure that TB is present, and I would assume that if it is attempts will be made to treat it in the first instance."
As a matter of fact the community is treating Shambo. DEFRA though can, and may, make a forced entry with police by night or day to kill Shambo. DEFRA don't want to make further tests. If DEFRA had its way Shambo would be dead now. His condition is treatable and there are many vets and farmers supporting the community's stand.
I can't help feeling that 250 years ago a conversation like this would have been had over a slave.
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ORIGINAL: Energylz
ORIGINAL: Prashna
Shambo is and always has been a pet. All this talk about 'sacred bull' is just befuddling the issue. The nearest comparison is a pet dog or cat.I don't see why it is befuddling the issue? The whole reason for the uproar about the proposal to put it down is because the bull is sacred to that religious community.
Yes, people love their pet dog or cat, but not everyone treats them as sacred as this bull is being.
Love and Reiki Hugs
Sorry, can't understand. What is your conception of sacred?
Are you saying that the people at Skanda Vale have no right to
1. treat shambo as a pet with affection or
2. put some garland or whatever on him if they so choose. Would you have the same objection to someone putting on a fancy collar or whatever on their pet dog or cat?
And what if they even regard shambo as sacred, though I suspect not in the sense you understand the word?
Is that sufficient reason to kill the animal at the earliest possible opportunity, at the mere suspicion of TB, which is a treatable disease?
Regards.
Prashna
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ORIGINAL: Healistic
I regret to point out the obvious flaws in your reasoning. I hope you will forgive me.
1. The foot & mouth and other tragic examples you coted are irrelevant IMO. The differences are clear and stark
(a) Farm animals, cattle, sheep, fowl are reared by the farmer for one purpose and one purpose only. To let them live to the ecenomically most viable extent, then sell them for slaughter or slaughter them directly to maximise profit.
I have to point theobvious flaws in your own reasoning. I would point out that family pet cattle, looked after by farmers and their children,were slaughtered due to TB.
I wonder how many pet dog or cat owners in this country would be equally keen to put down their pet at the merest whiff of suspicion of an infectitios disease.
Again irrelevant you quote MRSA. If you wish to cite an infectious disease that is pertinent to pets, then perhaps you should cite Rabies. Another disease that can cross infect.
The main thrust of my argument was that farmers rear their stock for profit by slaughter.
Are you suggesting that they do not?
Are you suggesting that the vast majority of animals put down were pets and not animals reared for slaughter.
Even if a few animals reared as pets were put down, the majority argumaent still remains.
Your second point is superfluous. You keep ignoring my arguments and befuddle the issue with irrelevancies.
Two points I have to re-iterate because you simply do not seem to get it.
1. When I posted, Shambowas merelysuspected of TB, not proven to have TB.
2. Even if he has TB he can be treated successfully and kept in isolation so that other animals and humans are not in significant danger.
Prashna
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Even if a few animals reared as pets were put down, the majority argument still remains.
Exactly Shambo is a pet and if the needs must, then unfortunatly and sadly Shambo will be culled.
Even if he has TB he can be treated successfully and kept in isolation so that other animals and humans are not in significant danger.
I notice that you do not say no danger. Againyou have agreed that shambo could pose a small threat. IMO if that was enough for farmers cattle and family petsthen that is enoughfor Shambo.
Farm animals, cattle, sheep, fowl are reared by the farmer for one purpose and one purpose only. To let them live to the ecenomically most viable extent, then sell them for slaughter or slaughter them directly to maximise profit.
What has that got to do with the issue? Are you saying that those animals do not have the same right to survive as shambo. A bit of a contradiction there.
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Prashna,
in your own words "I regret to point out the obvious flaws in your reasoning. I hope you will forgive me."
ORIGINAL: Prashna
Sorry, can't understand. What is your conception of sacred?Are you saying that the people at Skanda Vale have no right to
1. treat shambo as a pet with affection or
Of course they can treat it as a pet. I never said otherwise.
2. put some garland or whatever on him if they so choose. Would you have the same objection to someone putting on a fancy collar or whatever on their pet dog or cat?
If they want to adorn the bull then that is fine. Again I never said otherwise. You seem to be missing/avoiding the point.
And what if they even regard shambo as sacred, though I suspect not in the sense you understand the word?
My idea of sacred in the context of this subject: The animals lifeis being revered as special on religious grounds and beliefs.
If this was just a matter of the life of an animal, it should have been posted in the Pets,Animals and Wildlife forum. You yourself posted this topic under the Hinduism forum as it is clearly understood that this is an issue to do with the beliefs of that religion and how they believe that the animals in their possession are sacred (not just the one bull but all of them). You can say that the religious communitybelieves that all life is sacred, and I don't have a problem with that, but I don't see themkicking up such a public fuss about all the other animals that are killed elsewhere. It seems that because this bull is their own, then it is somehow revered as being more sacred, and thus there is, somehow, more reason why it should not be culled if it is proven to have a disease for which other animals would be culled according to the law. This animal is being treated as more than justthe pet that you are suggesting, and religious beliefs are being used as a reason and argument as to why it should be spared over and above any other animal that would be in a similar situation.
Is that sufficient reason to kill the animal at the earliest possible opportunity, at the mere suspicion of TB, which is a treatable disease?
If it were to beculled at the"earliest possible opportunity" then it would have already been done, so why blow this out of proportion. If it's such a treatable disease then has this treatment been carried out and, if not, why not?
I, personally,don't like to see the life of anything being taken uneccessarily, and I don't particularly want to see Shambo culled, but it amazes me at the arguments that are being used in an attempt to prevent it happening, as if those reasons are any weight over and above anybody elses animal, in the same situation,being culled.
Love and Reiki Hugs
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I expect many of us would like to think that we would have stood alongside Ghandi and Martin Luther King during their struggles against injustice. We would have campaigned to abolish slavery and child labour. After all, we're civilized, compassionate people aren't we?
Bad laws have been changed because a small minority irritated the complacent majority, and with 20-20 hindsight we say that we would have been on the 'right' side.
In these posts the science has been presented supporting Shambo's case, but this seems to be ignored. In these posts it is stated that Shambo is sacred to this community and this is implied to be in some way peculiar and quaint but not really to be taken seriously. Shouldn't the stand this community is taking make us question our own attitudes?
What has surprised me during this whole affair is how much unquestioning confidence people seem to have in the decision making of government agencies. The same people who over other issues rail at their incompetence.
I've read in the posts here comments like "one bull isn't worth all this effort", that there are more important issues to fight over. Indeed there are many great injustices worth fighting against, and I would fight against them, and sometimes do, but we fight the battles we're presented with big and small.
Doesn't this fight for the life of one bull represent something larger? Within complementary medicine isn't the idea to treat the whole body, not just where dramatic symptoms are displayed?
We live in a society where the attitude is if a thing is inconvenient or uneconomic we throw it away or we kill it. Isn't that the root of many of the problems we face in the world today? Maybe the life of one bull isn't such a small thing.
"If we cut up beasts simply because they cannot prevent us and because we are backing our own side in the struggle for existence, it is only logical to cut up imbeciles, criminals, enemies, or capitalists for the same reasons. " ~C.S. Lewis
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"You can say that the religious communitybelieves that all life is sacred, and I don't have a problem with that, but I don't see themkicking up such a public fuss about all the other animals that are killed elsewhere."
They kicked up a fuss during the Foot and Mouth slaughter. You didn't see it Energylz because it wasn't reported.
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"it amazes me at the arguments that are being used in an attempt to prevent it happening, as if those reasons are any weight over and above anybody elses animal, in the same situation,being culled."
No need to be amazed. The point being made is that none of them need to be culled/killed. Shambo stands for all the thousands needlessly killed every year.
The reason Shambo is still alive is that DEATHRA are embarressed by the media attention which is bringing their policies into question but the cameras are still around. They want Shambo dead so that the story will go away and we can all settle back into our cosy complacency.
What amazes me is the level of your trust in them.
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The reason Shambo is still alive is that DEATHRA are embarressed by the media attention
I thought they were waiting for the welsh assembly to sit and pass it's judgment.Defra had more media attention during the last cull, so they have no need to be embarassed.
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Hi all,
I would like to thank the many viewers who have visited this thread for their interest in the plight of this dumb animal. If inadvertently I have caused discomfiture or distress, I do apologise most humbly and unconditionally. When I started this thread, such interest was beyond my imagination. In the last 10 months, I had started 9 threads prior to this one, with a maximum of 11 replies and average of FOUR.
Therefore, I had every reason to believe that this thread would not reach double figures, let alone the 43 it has so far. My earnest and sincere thanks to healistic, spinal music and energylz for that. [sm=FIFangel.gif]
However, this thread seems to have deviated from the usual good humour and constructive spirit, which I have come to expect from HP. To the extent that my particular style and personality has contributed to that, I can only offer my sincere apologies to them and to all viewers. [sm=sad-smiley-047.gif]
Yet it need not have been; for the fundamental issues are simple and uncontroversial.
To move forward, I hope we can all agree on those. [sm=nature-smiley-008.gif]
This animal is not livestock, reared in an animal farm for the purpose of slaughter and eventual human or other consumption. The whole background is demonstrably different. Therefore, it is unfair to apply the same considerations to this animal as applies to standard farm livestock.
The ONLY test that has been carried out is the skin test. There is documented scientific evidence to show that it is unreliable on its own. Therefore, any slaughter on that basis ALONE would be unnecessary slaughter. I am sure everyone on this MB agrees to the principle of sanctity of life and consequent rejection of unnecessary taking of life.
11 May- The Chief Veterinary Officer for the Welsh Assembly, The Head of the TB policy unit AND the Head of Public Health visited the site. They reviewed Shambo's welfare, his isolation and the bio-security procedures implemented. They were satisfied and reassured …that there is no risk to animal or public health.
Surely no one on this MB would insist their individual or collective expertise on veterinary or public health exceeds that of those persons having specific responsibilities.
So if there is no risk to humans or other animals, why the indecent haste to see this animal slaughtered?
TB is curable. There is ample medical evidence in support. The people at skanda vale can and will bear the cost of the treatment.
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Also...
TB is only confirmed or otherwise in cattle after post mortem. Only 20% are found to have the disease after slaughter.
Other mammals on a farm are not subject to these regulations as it only applies to a cow's value as meat. They can be treated for the disease in the way that cattle should be.
Half a million pouds has been spent on research into bovine disease. £54,000,000 has been spent on compensation to farmers for healthy animals killed.
Our taxes pay for this!!
From Healistic - "I thought they were waiting for the Welsh assembly to sit and pass it's judgment. Defra had more media attention during the last cull, so they have no need to be embarassed."
There is presently no minister with responsibilty because of ministerial shake up going on following the Prime Minister's announcement to stand down. The farmers as businessmen are dependant on the good will of DEFRA, whereas the Hindu community is not, therefore it can afford to be more vocal (and more embarressing) and less subject to the wrath of DEFRA.
I must say I am surprised and disappointed in the tone taken against Prashna's original post. I registered here to defend the points she has been making and I expected that when the facts and figures were presented some anti attitudes would be changed, especially as the audience here are generally people involved in some way in a caring, healing profession. The contributors here must have deep compassion in order to perform their valuable work.
I have read elsewhere concerning this issue comments made by BNP members and others with a resentment against 'foreigners with their foreign ways'. This conversation hasn't sunk anywhere as low as that but I didn't expect to find resistance to common sense here. Reading some of these posts gives me that impression that argument is being made for argument's sake. Small points are made bearing very little relevance to the main point of the conversation. I have not registered and contributed to a site like this before, and this experience does not encourage me.
Perhaps people in support of Prashna's stand are reading these posts but do not feel the need to join in. I hope that is the case.
What I think I am coming to realize is that perhaps a reasoned argument is not enough. Perhaps some people's opinions are just too deeply rooted. Should not a conversation here on a site promoting health and healing provide more than a feeling of antagonism?
Anyway, I hope you are all successful and happy on your various paths.
Best wishes,
Graham
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ORIGINAL: Prashna
This animal is not livestock, reared in an animal farm for the purpose of slaughter and eventual human or other consumption. The whole background is demonstrably different. Therefore, it is unfair to apply the same considerations to this animal as applies to standard farm livestock.
But isn't all life sacred, regardless of whether it is "farm livestock" or otherwise?
The ONLY test that has been carried out is the skin test. There is documented scientific evidence to show that it is unreliable on its own. Therefore, any slaughter on that basis ALONE would be unnecessary slaughter. I am sure everyone on this MB agrees to the principle of sanctity of life and consequent rejection of unnecessary taking of life.
Indeed.
So if there is no risk to humans or other animals, why the indecent haste to see this animal slaughtered?
TB is curable. There is ample medical evidence in support. The people at skanda vale can and will bear the cost of the treatment.
So if the animal can be cured, why kill it?
It's as simple as that.
It is that simple. So after 2 weeks (I don't see that as being hasty IMO), why has it not received treatment and been cured? Why is this all still going on?
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Love and Reiki Hugs
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Energylz, why are these questions being repeated? Weren't you arguing previously that it was only this community who considered this bull sacred?
All the answers to your questions are in the previous posts.
I get the impression that Prashna is being slightly picked on here. She is being picked up on semantics and no-one is presenting an argument to the points I've made.
Read through the posts to see the pattern.
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Barafundle - Prashna is a he. This is easily ascertained from his profile where he states he has a wife.
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ORIGINAL: Barafundle
Energylz, why are these questions being repeated? Weren't you arguing previously that it was only this community who considered this bull sacred?All the answers to your questions are in the previous posts.
I get the impression that Prashna is being slightly picked on here. She is being picked up on semantics and no-one is presenting an argument to the points I've made.
Read through the posts to see the pattern.
Well, unfortunately, that shows your impression of me. The simple fact of the matter was that I had missed the earlier answer that you gave. And if you read my very first post you will see that I expressed that I would not want to see Shambo unnecessarily killed, so I'll excuse you for casting aspersions about me "picking" on Prashna.
I see your answer was:
As a matter of fact the community is treating Shambo. DEFRA though can, and may, make a forced entry with police by night or day to kill Shambo. DEFRA don't want to make further tests. If DEFRA had its way Shambo would be dead now. His condition is treatable and there are many vets and farmers supporting the community's stand.
It does concern me a little that you say: "DEFRA don't want to make further tests. If DEFRA had its way Shambo would be dead now". Have they actually stated that themselves?
Love and Reiki Hugs
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Thanks for the correction spinal music, a slip of the key. Apologies Prashna.
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"Well, unfortunately, that shows your impression of me. The simple fact of the matter was that I had missed the earlier answer that you gave. And if you read my very first post you will see that I expressed that I would not want to see Shambo unnecessarily killed, so I'll excuse you for casting aspersions about me "picking" on Prashna."
I stated that it was the impression I received, but not only from your posts. And it is only an impression.
Thank you for tackling some of my points.
"It does concern me a little that you say: "DEFRA don't want to make further tests. If DEFRA had its way Shambo would be dead now". Have they actually stated that themselves?"
Yes.
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Just for the record (and to make it a little clearer for people reading)...
You can quote other people by clicking on the quote button above the persons post or include "quote" tags aroundthe text as in:
Original: <member name> Quoted Text goes in here
Usually a good idea to include the "Original: <member name>" in the quote as well so people know who you are quoting.
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Love and Reiki Hugs
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ORIGINAL: Energylz
Just for the record (and to make it a little clearer for people reading)...
You can quote other people by clicking on the quote button above the persons post
I was wondering how you did that.
Still haven't quite got the hang of it though. Can't seem to write outside the white box.
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ORIGINAL: Energylz
Just for the record (and to make it a little clearer for people reading)...
You can quote other people by clicking on the quote button above the persons post or include "quote" tags aroundthe text
Hurray!
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ORIGINAL: Energylz
It does concern me a little that you say: "DEFRA don't want to make further tests. If DEFRA had its way Shambo would be dead now". Have they actually stated that themselves?
That is the reason for the urgency of the situation and the petition.
(Thanks for the tip on the quote dooda.)
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ORIGINAL: Barafundle
Thanks for the correction spinal music, a slip of the key. Apologies Prashna.
No problem, Barafundle.
Actually, I am very much flattered!
Even to imagine that anyone would mistake my never-changing expression as belonging to a charming member of the gentle sex, who are always smiling in the most beguiling manner, is extremely satisfying.
Thank you.
Prashna.
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Anyway, the latest on Shambo from Skanda Vale...
Support for Shambo is on the increase, his petition has now sailed past 11,000 however the Welsh Assembly's slaughter notice still stands so we still need your continued support.
PLEASE Sign the petition! Tell all your friends! Contact your M.P.!
A rational and constructive approach at this stage would be to carry out further diagnostic tests to find out if he is indeed infected with bovine TB. There are a range of tests available and we hope that the Welsh Assembly; appreciating the sensitivity of the subject, will engage positively to enable these tests to take place.
It is important to understand that the animals at Skanda Vale are not farmed. The community is a unique place, because for us the sanctity of life is paramount and fundamental to our way of life and our pilgrims. As a major point of pilgrimage for people of all faiths, the community has a duty to uphold the highest human values and to show by example that all life is sacred.
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Latest on shambo...
"To obey the will of God is one the most difficult things for people to do in the pressure of today’s society but that is why we are doing what we are with Shambo. We have no choice. We can never allow any life entrusted to our care to be killed. He is a member of our family. There is a very simple solution here and that solution is for Jane Davidson, who is the minister in charge of making this decision to realise that Skanda Vale is a place of worship, it is a temple and that Shambo’s life is sacred here. We are not a commercial farm. We never kill any animal. No animal leaves here. He was born here, he will die here naturally. If an animal is sick, we never put that animal down. We work with our vets and we are committed to spending as much money and as much time to care for life. We know what caring for life means. We have cattle here over twenty years old. We have cows that have not been able to stand up for over a year. We know how to care for them, to turn them over, to treat them like you would a person who is terminally ill. We run a hospice eight miles from here looking after people who are terminally ill. Our job is serving God in life and the people in government need to realise that that is a world of difference from a commercial farm whose job is to kill to make money. It’s quite a clear difference. There are many advance tests and diagnostics available for bovine TB, as there are for TB in human beings. Tuberculosis is treatable in animals, it can be treated in elephants, it can be treated in cows, it can be treated in gorillas, it can be treated in any animal. If you can treat it in a human being you can treat it in an animal. There just has to be the will to do this. How can you help us? You can help us by sending an email to Jane davidson because she’ll be making a decision in the next few days. Express your reasons why Shambo should not be killed. It will be a desecration of life, a desecration of Hinduism and Sanathana Dharma and a desecration of a place of worship. There is no reason at all to take his life."
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From Paul Flynn MP on his blog...
The great divide in Welsh Politics now is between those who want to kill the sacred bullock Shambo and those who do not.[link= 
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[/link] Caving in to pressure from the Farmers' unions, the Tories, Plaid and LibDems want Shambo killed. It's believed he is a carrier of bovine TB. Why is it that the Tories' answer to every rural problem is to kill animals. The new Labour Minister Jane Davidson will decide. She has not committed herself yet. As Shambo lives in a temple, he can easily be isolated from other cattle and the risk of cross infection is minute. In the interests of animal welfare and intelligent politics Jane should save Shambo. exceptions are always possible. That's what ministers are for.