Day of Judgement - 21st, May!!

I am still here!

See you all on 21/12/2012 😉

charis just read the link and fancy he is not offering refunds to his follers, now come on he failed to deliver lol

I am still here, too! But have to say that it is a beautiful day here and I am feeling strangely rapturous!!

[url]YouTube - ‪Wur Doomed, Entombed & Marooned...‬‏[/url]

We are all doomed.....

Don't panic!! 😉

Don't panic!! 😉

Love the Dad's Army reference - don't know if anyone on here is a fan of NewsBiscuit (other satirical/ could offend you anticipatory news sites are available)
but their post on - which I guess this could qualify for - came to mind ...

Disasters to be rated on Dad’s Army Scale

Following the blanket, round the clock reporting of the recent spate of tragedies, worldwide agreement has been reached that all future disasters, such as earthquakes, tsunamis and the Eurovision Song Contest, will be rated from 1 (mild irritation) to 7 (global catastrophe) on a new’ Dad’s Army Scale’, based on the popular British sitcom of the same name.
The new Scale is:

1 – Ah – I wondered who would spot that
2 – Do you think that’s wise?
3 – May I be excused, please?
4 – You stupid boy!
5 – You ruddy hooligans!
6 – Don’t panic! Don’t panic!
7 – We’re doomed – doomed… Doomed, y’hear me!

Isn't 21st The Rapture where Jesus saves all the Xians and then Armageddon is in October? Either way, it's after 11pm now so I'm hoping that Tesco is open late tomorrow if all the Xians have gone! 😀

Umm Bannick,

Do you have something against the word Christ? Just wondered - I find it rather disturbing and yes, offensive, to be crossed out like that. :confused:

And there is a somber side to all this merriment, yes, we can say, "serves them right for being so gullible", but the human tragedy behind this madness is real.

Camping also made a previous judgment day prediction, saying there was a very high likelihood that the world would end in 1994. Despite the failed prediction, several still sold their homes, quit their jobs and spent their savings in anticipation of May 21, 2011.

NPR recently reported that one of Camping's followers, 27-year-old Adrienne Martinez, and her husband, Joel, quit their jobs and moved to a rented home in Orlando where they passed out tracts. The couple told the radio program that they are spending the last of their savings because they did not see a need to hold on to one more dollar.
"We budgeted everything so that, on May 21, we won't have anything left," said Adrienne.
[url]Family Radio Spokesman: May 21 Rapture Is Guaranteed, Christian News[/url]

Love and peace,

Judy

Mike Adams has an interesting view on the Rapture -[url] see here[/url]

For that matter - somewhat off topic, but related [url]see here[/url]

Umm Bannick,

Do you have something against the word Christ? Just wondered - I find it rather disturbing and yes, offensive, to be crossed out like that. :confused:

And there is a somber side to all this merriment, yes, we can say, "serves them right for being so gullible", but the human tragedy behind this madness is real.

Love and peace,

Judy

It's a fairly common shortening nowadays actually, sorry that you read more into it.

Umm Bannick,

Do you have something against the word Christ? Just wondered - I find it rather disturbing and yes, offensive, to be crossed out like that.

It's a fairly common shortening nowadays actually, sorry that you read more into it.

Hi Judy and Bannick,

Actually, "Xian" (or even "Xn") is not a modern shortening at all, but an ancient one. In Greek - the original language of the Christian scriptures - the first letter of the word Christ is "chi", a hard ch sound that is written as the letter X in Greek. So X became used as a shorthand for Christ. (Hence "Xmas" for Christmas.)

However, in modern times, most people - Christian and otherwise - don't know about this throwback to the Greek alphabet. And in the meantime, the letter X in our alphabet has come to stand much more commonly for some negative things - particularly "the unknown" and "crossed out".

So yes, to many Christians nowadays, the use of this abbreviation is quite offensive. Even though I know what it originally meant, I don't really appreciate it either.

Love, Charis

Thank you Charis for that explanation. I now vaguely remember having heard it years ago.

I'm glad you were only using it as a shortening Bannick and not out of prejudice. Actually, I don't think it is very common at all - thank goodness, except at Christmas, where there is a subtle movement to take the Christ out of Christmas, by making it Xmas and then substituting Santa Claus for Jesus.

Love and peace,

Judy

What I'm really wondering is: where is the good Mr Camping now, and when is he going to make any public statement regarding the failure of his infallible prophecy? And when he does, how will he explain it?

Nobody seems to have heard from him since before Saturday. His website, which went down at the time, is back online and hasn't been updated (it still says "Judgment Day May 21, 2011 - The Bible Guarantees It! 00 Days Left"). And like Judy mentioned before, I'm wondering about the people who gave up their money, homes, jobs, possessions, etc. in preparation for the rapture. No word of any of them in the news that I've seen so far.

It must be terrible now for those of them who went that far with it. But I only hope that the shock of this might shake them awake and make them realise how duped they were - and that they might break free and find a more hopeful (even healing) spiritual path to follow.

All love, Charis

The Rapture

I think the problem was - it was a misprint, it should have been 'rupture', not 'rapture' - 2 million people got a hernia on Saturday night.

What I'm really wondering is: where is the good Mr Camping now, and when is he going to make any public statement regarding the failure of his infallible prophecy? And when he does, how will he explain it?

Nobody seems to have heard from him since before Saturday. His website, which went down at the time, is back online and hasn't been updated (it still says "Judgment Day May 21, 2011 - The Bible Guarantees It! 00 Days Left"). And like Judy mentioned before, I'm wondering about the people who gave up their money, homes, jobs, possessions, etc. in preparation for the rapture. No word of any of them in the news that I've seen so far.

It must be terrible now for those of them who went that far with it. But I only hope that the shock of this might shake them awake and make them realise how duped they were - and that they might break free and find a more hopeful (even healing) spiritual path to follow.

All love, Charis

Hi Charis
My guess is that the top man( sorry,don't know his name) is unfazed.

Now that bunch is divided into 3 groups- First those who will stay(because they didn't donate that much and are still living in their homes and have nothing else to occupy themselves. They are the 'think tank' to come up with justifications etc

Second group is suicidal- They were desparate for rapture that they never wanted to live anyway. More so now as they have no money, house or family left and very little to look forward to until next rapture.

Third group is now taking rest for a while. Get over the shock and ridicule. Then over time find another nutty theory and invest in that. They might even come back to the same camp after a while. Because they have a compulsion to keep whacky theories going
😀

I've been reading statements by evangelical Christians who are angry at Camping. They say he was wrong because his calculations accepted that the world was 7000 years old, when it's 'obviously' 6013 years old! That explains it!

This has been said by someone on the board of the organization led by Harold Camping, and for a change it's patently true...

"I don't know where we went wrong other than that we obviously don't understand the Scriptures in the way that we should," he says.

[DLMURL="http://www.npr.org/2011/05/23/136560695/doomsday-believers-cope-with-an-intact-world"]Doomsday Believers Cope With An Intact World : NPR[/DLMURL]

I'd say that goes for too many people who read the Bible.

Camping said his Doomsday prophesy would come true 'without a shadow of a doubt', and when I read that (before the 21st) I wondered whether, following the non Rapture, he, and others who think like him, would reassess their attitude to the way they interpret the Bible. For too many people blind faith in the Bible seems to just give an excuse to see others as 'spiritually inferior', and the Rapture belief is all about that.

"And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? Shall they not both fall into the ditch? The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
- Luke 6:39-41

I think the problem was - it was a misprint, it should have been 'rupture', not 'rapture' - 2 million people got a hernia on Saturday night.

:rollaugh:

Just saw (in a [url]Reuters report[/url]) that Mr Camping has finally spoken out:

Instead of the world physically coming to an end on May 21 with a great, cataclysmic earthquake, as he had predicted, Harold Camping, 89, said he now believes his forecast is playing out "spiritually," with the actual apocalypse set to occur five months later, on October 21....

During a sometimes rambling, 90-minute discourse that included a question-and-answer session with reporters, Camping said he felt bad that Saturday had come and gone without the Rapture he had felt so certain would take place.

Reflecting on scripture afterward, Camping said it "dawned" on him that a "merciful and compassionate God" would spare humanity from "hell on Earth for five months" by compressing the physical apocalypse into a shorter time frame.

But he insisted that October 21 has always been the end-point of his own End Times chronology, or at least, his latest chronology.

The tall, gaunt former civil engineer with a deep voice and prominent ears has been wrong before. More than two decades ago, he publicly acknowledged a failed 1994 prophecy of Christ's return to Earth.

So there we have it... :rolleyes:

Wonder what he'll come up with when the world also fails to end on October 21? Who knows... one day it might even dawn on him that a "merciful and compassionate God" couldn't possibly inflict "hell" on anyone at all.

All love, Charis

Whew, so we have five more months.

OK, seriously, I can't quite put my finger on it, but there must be a specific psychological term for this kind of personality. He's extreme and irrational in his beliefs, self-confident literally to a fault, and is totally unable to see or accept that he's in error overall, so covers over predictions that don't happen with explanations he actually believes (like Bejamin Creme). C'mon you practising psychologists out there: is there a term for such a personality?

( No ... not "nutter"! - before anyone else says it :p )

All I can add is 'oops' - mis-calculation!

there must be a specific psychological term for this kind of personality. He's extreme and irrational in his beliefs, self-confident literally to a fault, and is totally unable to see or accept that he's in error overall

American evangelical Christian? :hidesbehindsofa:

Yes, I think that's it. 🙂

V

Not a psychologist - but,a nurse that worked in psychiatric hospital. Perhaps, the term may be Narcissistic Personality Disorder??

Hi everyone,

Well, we're most of the way through 21st October here in Australia... I hope no-one will be too disappointed, but the world is still showing no signs whatsoever of ending. 😉

Peace to all,

Charis

Oh, I totally forget this thread, and haven't looked up to re-read it. What, this was yet another end of the world date??

When will they learn?

V

Oh, I totally forget this thread, and haven't looked up to re-read it. What, this was yet another end of the world date??

When will they learn?

V

Yes, it was from something I found and posted earlier in the thread. After his May 21 apocalypse was a no-show, Harold Camping came up with the ingenious explanation that this date merely marked the beginning of a spiritual final judgment, which would be completed with the destruction of the world on October 21.

It's now the 22nd in Oz, and we're still here... :rolleyes:

And the 22nd is nearly over in the UK too - so I guess we've all escaped again - whew! :rolleyes:

I wondered whethere any of the American media had remembered it - yep. Found this on the Washington Post:

While in May Camping spoke to nearly every media outlet he could, this time he’s noticeably absent from the spotlight. The Christian Science Monitor reports that calls to Family Radio were not returned and his daughter e-mailed to say they would not be speaking to the press.

Camping also seems to have learned how to better hedge his bets this time.

“I really am beginning to think as I restudied these matters that there’s going to be no big display of any kind,” he said in an audio address after suffering a stroke in June. “The end is going to come very, very quietly.”

[url]Harold Camping says end of the world is probably Oct. 21, 2011 - BlogPost - The Washington Post[/url]

And here's the link to the Monitor story - they also have a link to 5 failed end-of-the-world predictions. Only 5? I reckon there must have been at least 500 over the past few millennia!

[url]Harold Camping avoids press despite end-of-days prediction - CSMonitor.com[/url]

Judy

And here's the link to the Monitor story - they also have a link to 5 failed end-of-the-world predictions. Only 5? I reckon there must have been at least 500 over the past few millennia!

Probably... maybe more. It's almost as if some people enjoy making such predictions, despite the fact that not one of them has come true. Maybe they think it'll be the end of all their troubles - at least if they're among those "saved" or "raptured" (which, funnily enough, virtually all doomsday prophets seem to assume they'll be)...

Incidentally, when looking for articles on Camping, here's another one I found about the next predicted apocalypse: [url]Even the Maya are getting sick of 2012 hype[/url]

Sorry if that's a bit off-topic - I just found it interesting.

Love to all,
Charis

P.S. I forgot to add one of my favourite quotes that always comes to thought when these things happen (or don't, rather):

"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia".
- Charles M. Schulz (creator of Peanuts)

C 😉

Maybe they think it'll be the end of all their troubles - at least if they're among those "saved" or "raptured" (which, funnily enough, virtually all doomsday prophets seem to assume they'll be)...

Wonder why?? :confused::rolleyes:

Didn't Jesus say that we know no the hour.....?

Hi derek,

Jesus did say that we know not the hour. However, people were listening to their favorite walkman. and missed that part. And once more they were wrong. And last time rained brains. People were holding umbrellas. So these poor brains went to waste.