In case you were wondering why I'm resurrecting a 4 year old thread, the answer is that this afternoon I heard Dr Laurence Doyle (an astrophysicist) talking about time on the weekly Sentinel Radio programme.
He's on first and it's a really interesting listen! The title is, "Time - is it a fact of life?" It's only on (at that link) till the evening of Friday 13th Sept, but I will post the permanent link when it appears.
[url]JSH-Online audio*/*Christian Science[/url]
Love and peace,
Judy
Oooo, sounds intersting Judy.... I'll try and get to listen to that later if I can.
🙂
Hi Judy
It sort of ties in with my understanding of the oneness of consciousness, in which there is not time or distance, because all is one, it also ties in with the way that people often take something out of time as in placing a judgement within an experience, to keep it alive long after the experience has happened and no longer exists outside of the consciousness that is keeping it alive as an inner conflict, which once healed no longer creates a distraction within the consciousness of the creator of the conflict.
To my understananding, eternity doe not exist within the oneness of consciousness as there is only the Now.
Hi Judy
It sort of ties in with my understanding of the oneness of consciousness, in which there is not time or distance, because all is one, it also ties in with the way that people often take something out of time as in placing a judgement within an experience, to keep it alive long after the experience has happened and no longer exists outside of the consciousness that is keeping it alive as an inner conflict, which once healed no longer creates a distraction within the consciousness of the creator of the conflict.
Hi Paul,
Glad you were able to relate to the concepts in this interview. I've always thought that our understanding is far closer than you realise, but you let yourself be put off by "religious" terminology. 😉
I so agree with you about how people hold onto the hurts and wrongs of the past - it breaks my heart when I see the mothers of children who have been murdered, for instance, still full of bitterness and pain decades later. They are only hurting themselves, not the perpetrator.
To my understananding, eternity doe not exist within the oneness of consciousness as there is only the Now.
When we speak of eternity in Christian Science, we mean timelessness. I found another couple of articles on this subject, also featuring Doyle. Here's what he says in one:
"Eternity, not time, expresses the thought of Life, and time is no part of eternity."Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health, p. 468.
Laurance Doyle, astrophysicist:
The idea of time is another imposed limitation. Similarly, one might say that "distance is no part of infinity." As one cannot add up all time to get eternity, one cannot add up all the distance and get infinity. One cannot add up all limitations to obtain the unlimited. So, there is no distance between you, as an unlimited idea of the infinite Mind, and all other ideas of creation. Distance doesn't apply to ideas. There's no time or distance between Mind's ideas.
[url]MORE UNDERSTANDING, LESS MATTER*/*Christian Science Sentinel[/url]
David Carico, physicist:
Something that keeps coming to my thought is not to fall into the mistake of accepting a mortal sense of the present as being somehow more real than a mortal sense of the future or past. Reality is timeless, and Mrs. Eddy said, "Eternity, not time, expresses the thought of Life, and time is no part of eternity" (Science and Health, p. 468). The mortal measurement of time includes future, present, past. And it's possible, I think, for the mortal mind to lock on to the present as being somehow better than the future or the past; whereas, in reality, it's timelessness that we're going after.As far as Jesus' expression of that, I'm remembering his statement, "Before Abraham was, I am" ( John 8:58). Jesus wasn't saying, "I am a mortal living at this moment in time, who also lived in past times." He was saying, "I'm timeless. Because I'm immortal, I'm timeless." So when we use the word now, we're kind of limited by language. Now, in the highest sense, means eternity, which includes past, present, and future, all at once.[url]TIME MASTERS*/*Christian Science Sentinel[/url]
And I think this statement just sums it all up:
Man is the idea of Spirit; he reflects the beatific presence,illuming*the universe with light. Man is deathless, spiritual. He is above sin or frailty. He does not cross the barriers of time into the vast forever of Life, but he coexists with God and the universe.Mary Baker Eddy (Science and Health 266)
Love and peace,
Judy
In case you were wondering why I'm resurrecting a 4 year old thread, the answer is that this afternoon I heard Dr Laurence Doyle (an astrophysicist) talking about time on the weekly Sentinel Radio programme.
He's on first and it's a really interesting listen! The title is, "Time - is it a fact of life?" It's only on (at that link) till the evening of Friday 13th Sept, but I will post the permanent link when it appears.
[url]JSH-Online audio*/*Christian Science[/url]
Love and peace,
Judy
Just listened to it quickly. I generally agree with what is said... would like to listen to it again, but not sure I'll get time before it's removed, as I've got to head out.
If only they did a transcription of it. 😮
All Love and Reiki Hugs