Watched a programme last night about dogs with Martin Clunes.
It was stated that all dogs have evolved from wolves.
Personally I dispute the evolution theory of any species. If all dogs have evolved why have we still got wolves and why are there so many different breeds of dog that look so totally different. e.g. big ones, small ones, furry ones,sleek ones, brown, black, etc etc. I know breeders experiment with certain breeds but I personally don't believe they are responsible for all types of dog.
Also for instance, we are supposed to have evolved from apes. Again if so, why are there still apes.
All living creatures have species groups insects, birds, cats, etc. and us humans have our species groups orientals, black, white, indians, etc.
Don't believe a word of it.
Evolution (ie changes in genetic material over time observed in plants and animals, over centuries due to changes in the environment) is fact - whether you believe it or not is your choice.
Persons that don't "believe" in evolution (even though it's not a question of belief) generally do so because they believe that the Bible is literally correct (ie God, portrayed as an old man with a beard and stick, made the world in six days, around 4000 years ago).
The specifics of evolutionary processes for different species of plants, insects and mammals remains open to scientific study - a picture has been developed, but it remains open to possible revision when more information is available such is better DNA analysis.
Just because a species "evolves" does not mean that ALL its ancestors would also change. This would only happen if the "ancestors" were to die out - like the dodo.
OK lets stick with the dogs for example.
Explain to me how a wolf turns into a poodle (fluffy white or black for instance) but by the same token turns into a bull terrier ( sleek strong sturdy) neither of which bear any resemblence to wolves other than are generic in a fashion.
Tell me why the said poodles and bull terriers are not evolving into something else.
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The thing about when you've been on a net forum for quite a while, as I have on this, is frankly that the same subjects come up for the fifth time or whatever. So I don't feel like going deeply into this. There are past threads if they are still there.
On dogs I can't speak from authority, but have heard many times (which I don't remember in detail now) how different breeds are .... it's in the name: breeds. They are cross-bred to be what are frankly sometimes ridiculous and unhealthy animals.
James is correct insofar as evolution exists. You can almost see it happening around you. Humans are getting taller: that kind of Californian or Aussie look is not something you'd have found a hundred years ago very much.
However, what past threads really went into is that some of us just don't think evolution is the whole answer. IMHO advanced civilisations have risen and fallen for tens or even hundreds of thousands of years, and IMHO they played very much with genetic engineering. And I also don't actually believe we descended from apes. Which is why there are no missing links.
It's not just evolution IMHO. The scientist, Luther Burbank, is documented as having grown roses with no thorns, by giving love to them; he also married something like oranges and another fruit together, creating grapefruits. This is creative and the use of consciousness to change species almost overnight.
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OK lets stick with the dogs for example.
Explain to me how a wolf turns into a poodle (fluffy white or black for instance) but by the same token turns into a bull terrier ( sleek strong sturdy) neither of which bear any resemblence to wolves other than are generic in a fashion.
Tell me why the said poodles and bull terriers are not evolving into something else.
orangeblossom.
The wolf did not turn into a poodle. Bizarre as it may sound the poodle is a wolf, only massively altered via selective breeding. Apart from the er, how shall we put it, practical difficulties: a Chihuahua can interbreed with a great Dane and the offspring will be viable. They are the same species. On the other hand, a mating of Cheetahs and Leopards (it does occasionally happen) will produce offspring but the offspring will not be viable. They are unable to reproduce because they are now two distinct species.
Evolution!
The fact that we have evolved is beyond dispute. Walk into any museum and look at the display cabinets. The problem lies with peoples poor grasp as to what a scientific theory is. Until someone paints a better picture of how we are what we are, evolution theory is the only game in town. Goddit is not an option.