RE: Playing God...[qabalah]
Hi Zophiel
Yes the TOL is certainly the archetypal blueprint for any entity, animate or inanimate
astra
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RE: Playing God...[qabalah]
Dear astra and Zophiel:
Well, it certainly looks like you Two have the TOL wisdom covered from a 2 Z! (Hope you got all those fun puns!) 😀 Seriously, however, I am honored to discuss and share in mutual TOL learning with both of you. You both show deep knowledge of how it is a key to life, creation, and our spiritual evolution. I look forward to many great discussions with you both.
The former one I'm more familiar with, the latter not so much...is this how it comes out ? (sorry for crude drawing)
You've nailed the concept exactly...which would mean that drawing is not only not crude, but highly effective. 😉
Here's a (tiny) tree diagram showing the 7 triads, in colour. (snip)
For example would this latter version work within the seven layers structure of the OSI-RM ?
Actually, the 7-layer model you drew in your excellent drawing is the one that fully overlays the OSI ref model. Note in the OSI model how the lowest layer is the Physical. This perfectly corresponds with the physical manifestation of Malkuth in Assiah, if you will. In systems engineering, the physical OSI layer is defined by the physical signaling technology of any system digital interface. The specifications for this layer include things like voltage/power levels, encoding format (pulsed, AM, FM, etc.), right down to the physical wires and connectors (or other medium) used to transmit the signals. Note how the highest OSI layer is the "application layer", which specifically relates to the Creative Will allocation of Kether in Atziluth. The match between OSI and the 7 levels of the TOL tends to make me believe that a Qabalist was the one to first define the 7 OSI layers.
And on that subject I know nothing of computer science but I'm interested in the 22 Hebraic letters that that forge the pathways between the 10 sephirot and wonder if these form the basic communication network within the language of computer programming.
(I realise computer language is in binary...more correspondences with the zero of Ain Soph and the number one of the the Monad ?)Also combining and pairing up the 22 can lead to vast sequences of numbers which puts me in mind of the vastness genetic code
And the Tetragrammaton (YHWH), blueprint of creation, can be linked to the four part code of the DNA structure
So all these many correspondences within man, the microcosm
Beautiful. Yes, so many correspondences in the body of our human species. Here are some more interesting observations and correspondences in this matter:
1) Computer language is, indeed, binary. And when you add 22 letters to 10 nodes of the TOL network model, you get 32. A binary sequence number which aligns with the definition of a digital "longword" (32 bits).
2) Another DNA-TOL correlation is the fact that triplet-codon sequences that form the basic amino acids in DNA overlay the 3x3 TOL matrix of the upper, non-physical nodes of the Tree. Each triangle on the Tree represents a pairing of one purine and one pyrimadine and their mutual energy bond that holds them together. Strings of triplet codon sequences link together to "spell out" the entire DNA double-helix.
3) Thus, our human body and our DNA are self-similar (fractally structured), with the "mother fractal" that describes life at all levels being the TOL itself.
4) I think we can (and hopefully will) go on and on, sharing our correspondences. I also have aligned 3 major forms of computer AI techniques with the TOL...
To expand this a little and from my studies of Kabbalah, the image is the blueprint that emanated in Atziluth while the likeness was created in Briah and formed in Yetzirah
...and finally given birth to in the world of Assiah. 😉 Another interesting correspondence, speaking of birth: Interesting how the human gestation cycle is Nine months in length, and progresses from Kether (Will to Procreate) all the way through Yesod (Foundation gives Birth).
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RE: Playing God...[qabalah]
Oh the A+ operating systems course flashbacks. OSI models, application layers. I really need to get those certifications finished.
This is kind of on and off the subject simultaneously but I had a theory once when thinking about this and many similar comparisons between seemingly opposite ends like spirit and machine. The theory is that when we create an android, this android will be obviously connected to the internet unless Terminator 54 comes out that year with Arnold Schwarzeneggers great grandson as the T-1000 Whilst running for president of the United States....... wait where was I? Oh yes androids.
What if the android is so self aware and being given the information of past machines like him. What if it woke up and called us gods having known us all the time.
Meaning, these machines, the ones now, though they are mere calculators in some resepects, what if they are conscious on their own level ? We just havent developed them into beings that can communicate in the same way we do with ourselves. If we are made in the image of the creator and reflect our creator in our own creations, its almost feasible that the machine im using now is not unlike an amoeba or single celled bacteria.
We thought once that bacteria isnt alive until we noticed it ate and reproduced. We have machines that upgrade their own software, thats a type of evolution if you think about it. Soon machines will be able to make other machines without us telling them to do so.. would that not be reproduction ? They input and output information already, that is what we do when we eat. We input energy process it and output a result through emotional response, waste removal, physical effects.
Ok ill shut my rant up now. Anyone care to comment or debate ?
RE: Playing God...[qabalah]
Hi Zophiel,
Have got some thoughts about this thread (which I'll post when I'm more awake) but I have to admit it's quite a bit over my head to be frank so not sure if I'll be able to add much to the proceeding when I do.
I just wanted to say I read your last post and the line:
ORIGINAL: Zophiel
What if it woke up and called us gods
Made me think that you might want to check out a (fairly old now I suppose) film called Bladerunner - I think you'll enjoy the questions it poses.
Rgds,
Roger
RE: Playing God...[qabalah]
Hi all,
I have printed out he entire thread, for further reading and thanks Astra for that brilliant use of the facility to include graphics in 'Science... ' posts. It makes my negotiations with Mike worth while.
Leo