Indeed. I've always considered there was something 'before'. Glad science is catching up with me. (scuttles away and put's the ego back in it's box)

All Love and Reiki Hugs

Indeed. I've always considered there was something 'before'. Glad science is catching up with me. (scuttles away and put's the ego back in it's box)

All Love and Reiki Hugs

Hee hee - you're not the only one Giles! Mary Baker Eddy wrote:
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Genesis i. 1. In the beginning God created the heaven
and the earth.

The infinite has no beginning.... (Science and Health 504)

And from Laurence Doyle, who I am always quoting on these pages:

"When people talk about the Big Bang, the origin of the universe, I always think of "2+2=4" And how old is that? We can talk about the origin of Roman numeral two’s, and we can talk about the origin of Arabic numeral two’s, because they’re symbols, but we can’t talk about the origin of the real two. So I would say time is dependent on matter - whereas an idea is not material and therefore doesn't involve time."

In that interview he also talked about quantum physics and Bell’s Theorem (where one event instantly affects another far away) and talks of how it is coming to be recognised that consciousness is the primary measurement as you can’t have a measurement without conscious thought preceding it. He says:

"So if consciousness is the primary measurement and it can’t be localized, then I think I see a case emerging in the physics community for consciousness to be the primary substance of the universe, everywhere."

(from "The metaphysics of space and time" Christian Science Sentinel Dec 30 2002)

Judy

Thanks for this thread, Judy.

Now it appears that science is ready to go beyond, and before, the Big Bang. Cosmology is waiting at the precipice of its next great revolution. The only question is where, or better yet “when,” do we go from here? We are ending the beginning and beginning down another path.

Where we "go from here" is IMHO back to Eastern scripture which is really often physics, but not as our proudful Western phycisists want to admit to it.

There are 'pralayas'. The universe comes and goes, always growing and expanding. With Love, Light and Life at the heart of it, always growing, always fruitful, always Conscious and illimitable.

It just has times of stasis..

In the mind of the One, the "Big Bang" was a moment ago in the scheme of things.

V

Yesterday a friend and I were talking about near-death experiences and I told him about this one: [DLMURL] http://www.mellen-thomas.com/stories.htm [/DLMURL] I read it through before I sent him the link and was glad to be reminded of it. In it, he talkes about seeing before the Big Bang and many other things relevent to this thread. Obviously, scientists would say that this experience has not been subjected to a double-blind test etc (well, how could it?) therefore we cannot accept it as any sort of evidence, but to those of us who are open-minded, it's really worth reading and pondering.

Judy