The books of Joan Grant have kind of overflowed from another thread - - so for any more discussion on Joan Grant it seemed better to give her her own thread.

There's a pretty worldly, even sceptical, article on her from The Guardian, on the occasion of later 'bits' of her work being published four years ago: (Joan passed on in 1989, and I must have known her in 1988 maybe through to very early '89.)

There's an official website, I see:

And a pretty small piece in Wikipedia:

"Winged Pharoah", her first book, came out in 1937, and was an instant success. It remains her most famous and has never been out of print. If anyone wants to read her lives in chronological order (the order they were lived, which is not the order they were written in), then this is also the first. It takes place in very ancient Egypt. From memory, I think it's estimated to have been around 3,000 or even 4,000 BC.

Ancient Egyptian culture was thought to be just developing then, but Joan tells a different story. In the esoteric and psychic arts, Egypt was at a peak, from which it appears to have slowly fallen over many centuries. They also were then quite conscious that they were a remnant of, or keepers of some of the esoteric secrets from, lost Atlantis - a theme vaguely occuring in her later lives at times. It's in this life in 'Winged Pharoah' that she, training to be a priestess, had to prove herself by recalling a number of past lives, and it seems as a result of this training she kept the ability through to her 20th-century embodiment.

However, I'd say "Winged Pharoah" is a favourite because the life and culture it describes are so captivating. To me, all her later past-life books are almost equally good.

V

Hi V

I got the book Winged Pharoah, and for me it was quite a bizarre read, i mean that in that it was so new to me.. it felt ,,oh dear, words fail me here, ...i felt like i fell in love with the whole thing, the people, the place what they believed in.. when it came to an end , i didnt want to leave, i wanted to stay in that place and be part of that era..ive never felt anything like it...

it got me to thinking about nowadays,, is there anythinglike that around now, how they believed and their morals etc i thought perfectly matched my own..and through it all you felt their love and respect, it just gripped me..

I think i would like to read her autobiog if i can get hold of it..and her other books but im not sure if they would take me to the same place, and i sooooooooooooooo want to go back there..x

Hi Sunrose and V

I am in the middle of reading Winged Pharoah and really love the Pharoah's teachings to his son and daughter. He is so wise and compassionate, it's a shame that today's leaders do not have the same qualities:(. I am going to read them in the order you suggested V but it might take some time as I have most of them!

Love and light

reikiangel

xxx

Hi Sunrose and V

I am in the middle of reading Winged Pharoah and really love the Pharoah's teachings to his son and daughter. He is so wise and compassionate, it's a shame that today's leaders do not have the same qualities:(. I am going to read them in the order you suggested V but it might take some time as I have most of them!

Love and light

reikiangel

xxx

Am jealous!!!:p

Hi V

I am coming to the last two chapters of Winged Pharoah and am amazed at her description of her life at that time. Considering this was written over 70 years ago it 'feels' like a book that could have been written today in our more 'enlightened' society. I know I mentioned this in my last post but the way they ruled, with compassion and fairness could be a lesson to leaders today.
Thank you for bringing her to our attention

Love and light

reikiangel

xxx

Hi Reikiangel and Sun-Rose,

I'll be quite plain and open about why I think you (and many thousands of others) love "Winged Pharoah". IMHO it's because the book is a true story (I briefly knew Joan, and she was honest, and it is IMHO a past-life recall in depth). But also, culturally and morally it was not far from what people call a Golden Age, in very very early Egypt as she describes. (Goodness, even lions were kept as pets and did no harm!) But spiritually it was advanced way beyond where we are even yet today. Our "advances" in modern times have been more in technology, not spiritually.

And that ancient Egyptian culture was only a remnant of how Atlantis once was at its peak. So yes, we read about it and long for it - because we were there. Such Golden Ages are our real home. To read about them makes us long to "go home". We miss our true culture and home. That homeland can be anywhere and recreated at any time, but we don't yet have it today.

As you read on in her lives in chronological order, she lived in the time of Moses, also in Egypt, but you'll see how things had fallen by then, spiritually and regarding political corruption. The longing for Golden Ages past is there as a theme - it even comes out briefly when she recalls Atlantis in her American Indian life ("Scarlet Feather"). And things go downhill over time in the West until we come to the heart-wrenching "Life As Carola": when in medieval Italy she was basically utterly alone as a person of wisdom and knowledge. Things had sunk very low.

Hopefully we are moving slowly towards a new Golden Age in this world again. Time will tell. But IMHO there are Forces behind the scenes who are determined to make it happen.

What constitutes a Golden Age could be debated, and it's a big subject not for this thread. But it's (cliche warning) a rise in consciousness, at least among an important minority, whereby people walk the Earth as Christic beings, and music, art, sculpture and fiction is raised to a level that only tremendously inspires people. Lifestyles and aspirations will change. All the problems we see in this world are solvable, if enough people have the Consciousness of a Christ to see and know the solutions. There are no problems that a Christic or Buddhic mind cannot solve.

The thread is about Joan Grant and her books. But let me throw one more title into the mix? IMHO it's superior to anything even Joan Grant wrote, and goes even deeper into the Golden Age of ancient Egypt. "Initiation" by Elisabeth Haich. It's another past-life recall, and unlike any book I've ever come across in my life. It feels as if your mind is getting stretched, and you yourself initiated, as you go through it.....

V

For anyone interested, I just saw that Cygnus have "Winged Pharoah" on offer at a very good price:

V

Hi Reikiangel and Sun-Rose,

I'll be quite plain and open about why I think you (and many thousands of others) love "Winged Pharoah". IMHO it's because the book is a true story (I briefly knew Joan, and she was honest, and it is IMHO a past-life recall in depth). But also, culturally and morally it was not far from what people call a Golden Age, in very very early Egypt as she describes. (Goodness, even lions were kept as pets and did no harm!) But spiritually it was advanced way beyond where we are even yet today. Our "advances" in modern times have been more in technology, not spiritually.

And that ancient Egyptian culture was only a remnant of how Atlantis once was at its peak. So yes, we read about it and long for it - because we were there. Such Golden Ages are our real home. To read about them makes us long to "go home". We miss our true culture and home. That homeland can be anywhere and recreated at any time, but we don't yet have it today.

As you read on in her lives in chronological order, she lived in the time of Moses, also in Egypt, but you'll see how things had fallen by then, spiritually and regarding political corruption. The longing for Golden Ages past is there as a theme - it even comes out briefly when she recalls Atlantis in her American Indian life ("Scarlet Feather"). And things go downhill over time in the West until we come to the heart-wrenching "Life As Carola": when in medieval Italy she was basically utterly alone as a person of wisdom and knowledge. Things had sunk very low.

Hopefully we are moving slowly towards a new Golden Age in this world again. Time will tell. But IMHO there are Forces behind the scenes who are determined to make it happen.

What constitutes a Golden Age could be debated, and it's a big subject not for this thread. But it's (cliche warning) a rise in consciousness, at least among an important minority, whereby people walk the Earth as Christic beings, and music, art, sculpture and fiction is raised to a level that only tremendously inspires people. Lifestyles and aspirations will change. All the problems we see in this world are solvable, if enough people have the Consciousness of a Christ to see and know the solutions. There are no problems that a Christic or Buddhic mind cannot solve.

The thread is about Joan Grant and her books. But let me throw one more title into the mix? IMHO it's superior to anything even Joan Grant wrote, and goes even deeper into the Golden Age of ancient Egypt. "Initiation" by Elisabeth Haich. It's another past-life recall, and unlike any book I've ever come across in my life. It feels as if your mind is getting stretched, and you yourself initiated, as you go through it.....

V

i have got two due on loan from the library, looking forward to getting them.. will look up the other book by Elisabeth Haich..cheers.

I've not read Joan Grant (yet) so can't comment on her books but I have read Initiation and agree that it's incredible. I recently felt like reading it again and discovered that it's online, free. Have a look .
xxx

Hi Sunanda,

I may be wrong and it will have been years ago, but I think we might have discussed "Initiation" years ago? Maybe, maybe not. I've never been able to read books online; I like them in my hands, especially when they are so deep. But that it's online can give a 'taster' to anyone.

Yes, I've really never read anything like it. It begins with memories of her 20th century life, and at first you might think in the opening pages that it's a run-of-the-mill book. You've no idea at all that chapter after chapter, "Initiation" just goes higher and higher. I really did feel my mind and capacity to take things in being stretched. In the end it got to a couple of chapters I'm not sure I really did get my head around.

I've read it 2-3 times, and is always on my mental list to read again.

V

V thank you so much for bringing this up - Joan Grant looks to be a fascinating person and I shall try and get hold of her books. What you said very much fits in with my own views. Have you read Arthur Guirdham's The Cathars and Reincarnation?

Thanks Sunanda for the link - looks fascinating.

Have you read Arthur Guirdham's The Cathars and Reincarnation?

Yes, but long ago.

V

just finished scarlet feather and the moses born book...interesting ..i found scarlet feather probably the hardest and most in depth one to read..thats only my opinion,, i think i found it hard because of the 'times' that they lived in and what their people believed and had to go through was so different to my life..

but i do keep chewing it over in my head...:rolleyes:, the moses book didnt hook me so much havent quite worked out why but i must say all in all i devoured them:D in a couple of days..hope the library gets me some more in!!

I've not read Joan Grant (yet) so can't comment on her books but I have read Initiation and agree that it's incredible. I recently felt like reading it again and discovered that it's online, free. Have a look .
xxx

thanks Sunanda its whetted my apetite enough for me to want to own this book..looking forward to it..

cheers.