RE: Bad past life regression experience?
I teach hypnotherapy and also a past life therapist course, as well as doing indivudal regressions and workshops - so over the past 10 years or so have seen a lot of real and fabricated regressions..
Past lives is a very big topic at the moment - but how and why we have them is still surrounded by more questions than answers.
I have regressed many people using hypnosis, the Christos method and guided visualistation, as well as some through dream scaping and pathworking with mediumship - the results often are very astounding - but can in some cases be traumatic and upsetting - as we can be upset by a poignant movie or book
It is often said that its no worse than recalling a dream as its gone and done - but even dreams can have an effect upon us- seeing yourself die, the pain you can cause others, seeing hte differnces and links between lives of the past and the present all can have an effect on is oin the present day. Also in expoerincing a real past life the emotional feelings far surpasss those of a disassocaited dream - even when the therapist performing the regression is using techniques to stop you reliving the experiences.
A lot of people come to me simply as they are looking for the novelty of a regression - and in most cases i dont work with them. I prefer as has been mentioned before to look at why the people are looking into past lives - and if they definetly want to go ahead, then find some healing from it for them.
Doing normal regression during my hypnotic sessions some spontaneous regressions to past lives do occur - though not often - as the majorirty of problems and issues are fixed in thislife - but some do have a hangoveror carried balace from those we have been through previously.
for some fgood analytical studies on past lives in a slightly more scientific context than the normal wishy washy books look oit for Helen Wambach and Chet Snow - both approach the topic from a clinical factual background - though they can get a bit spiritual as well at times.
My advice when it comes to looknig at past lives is ask your self why you want to know what you were before, before you go ahead for a regression - past lives are hard to find if there are present life problems or you are trying to find them to ignore something in the present or make excuses for yourself. They come easiest when the time is right for hte person to find the knowledge that they can contain/
RE: Bad past life regression experience?
Some more information to share for those that may be interested.
From Dr Richard Gerber, Publishers Weekly said This book is at the cutting edge of the whole health movement and that was back in the mid 80s. His book and research at that time became the definitive text for energetic medicine.
Miasms
Miasms are stored in the subtle bodies, especially the etheric, emotional, mental, and to a lesser extent astral bodies. Some miasms are passed on to the next generation genetically by inhabiting the molecular level of the physical body, which is the genetic code. A miasm is not necessarily a disease; it is the potential for a disease. Indeed, Miasms are a crystallized pattern of karma. The merger of the souls forces and ethereal properties determine when a miasm will arise in the physical body to become an active disease. This happens only when the miasms ethereal pattern projects into the physical body from the subtle bodies. Miasms may lay dormant in the subtle bodies and aura for long periods of time. They are organised in the subtle bodies, and gradually, through the biomagnetic fields about the physical body, miasms penetrate the molecular level, then the cellular level (individual cells), and finally the physical body.
"The reincarnational system is not random. It allows the soul freedom to choose the circumstances of each successive incarnation. Physical characteristics as well as social and cultural influences are taken into account when selecting the particular physical vehicle of expression for the soul. The natural question that many people ask when told that the spirit has the choice as to what bodies he or she wishes to occupy is, 'Why come back as someone with oppressive difficulties such as physical illness or poverty?' Re-incarnation is perhaps one of the only philosophies, which may make sense of this question. The spirit's expression on the physical plane are only transitory within the full scope of the cyclic incarnations. A lifetime chosen with a particular obstacle, such as illness or poverty, is actually achieved by some as a gift which the individual may have chosen to use toward the evolution of his or her inner spiritual qualities.
Just think about an event in your life where you were successfully able to overcome something very difficult. The process of going through the event was no doubt quite stressful at the time. But the experience and inner strength gained in overcoming the obstacle made you a stronger and wiser person. "
Re-incarnation presents a model by which consciousness is repeatedly projected into physical vehicles for the purposes of gaining experience, knowledge and spiritual maturity. Re-incarnation is one of the few models which explains why dis-eases, as well as physical, emotional and socio- economic handicaps, may be viewed as learning experiences and opportunities for soul growth.
Source: Vibrational Medicine by Richard Gerber M.D.
Flower essences and homeopathy can also work on clearing some of these blockages but there is nothing like having a full on 2-3 hour past life healing session, if you are serious about clearing unconscious blockages.
My view of the subtle bodies passed to me by spirit is different from Richard Gerbers but that is a different subject matter all together. Richard has based his philosophy on the current new age doctrine culminating from Theosophy. I was asked by a renowned clinical psychologist to do a Phd at Edinburgh on this whole subject matter of energetics and the impact of the unconscious on our current life experience, repeating patterns and behaviour due to past lives and soul loss. Of course this is nothing new Shamans have worked with the different worlds and different dimensional realities for thousands of years it is a profound esoteric healing art. When anything traumatic happens in our life, birth, broken relationships, car crashes, bereavement, operations, anaesthetic our energy system is so sensitive it decides to flip out. So how can we tell if our energy system (soul) has
RE: Bad past life regression experience?
Dear DaveBrum,
I was interested to read you mentioning the Christos method. It doesn't seem to be all that well-known. I happen not to feel at ease about doing such things now as it 'isn't where I am at', but as a teen I picked up the Christos method and started experimenting with it. This wasn't with a view to healing people but mainly from a scientific point of view as a young parapsychologist and member of the SPR. At the end of the day it's hard to say just how the Christos technique differs from hypnotism as it's akin to some hypnotic methods, and the person running the subject does speak as though with suggestion.
The Christos method seems if anything to set off a state of lucid dreaming, but I used it experimentally on people without giving a clue that it might lead to past life recall (I wouldn't do this now!), and it still did. However, while I don't doubt it might lead to genuine recalls, and if the experiences are in the distant past it's impossible to check, more recent 'lives' were among those which didn't check out. For example, subjects might relive episodes in another "life" during dates when they were already around in the present body. We then wondered if these were other people's lives, yet the information with checkable dates was often fictitious. The subconscious appears pressured to make something up.
But even though the episodes were sometimes certainly fictitious, they still profoundly affected subjects with deep emotion. One subject - in a life too recent to have been his - murdered rather gruesomely. Another subject was spurned in love and so killed himself. (He was going through the feeling of hanging before I had a chance to bring him back.) The experiences certainly didn't appear to be at all healing, but upsetting.
The Christos technique was still interesting, however. As you know, at one stage before "going back in time", the subjects are apparently simply OOB in the present. We experimented with this, thinking it might be of practical parapsychological use, but once more when we had subjects go to other rooms and buildings, their account of what was happening in there was invalid.
This isn't to say the technique may not work at times, and yonks ago when they came out I enjoyed the books of G.M. Glaskin on this, and corresponded a bit with him. One of his conclusions was that even when the experience was just a lucid dream, and nothing to do with a past life, people in his sessions did sometimes seem to get something positive or healing from it. But all kinds of things seem to be possible here - that the experiences are valid and then invalid, in the past and then just lucid dreams.
Would you say that the Christos method is inferior to others? (Since you have tried more than one I'd be interested in your opinion.)
Thanks,
venetian
RE: Bad past life regression experience?
I havewalways used the christos method more in workshops than in individual therapy - the benefits of the hypnotic state being far superior tot the dreamlike quality of the Christos Method recall.
All regressions that I do, by whihcever method are always prepared for with basic counselling, and support always in place afterwards - as even the simplest piece of information, found by whatever method can m,ake people change a lot about the way they think about themselves and the world around them.
The christos method im my eyes is a useful techinque for people that are scared of the idea of hypnotic regression, and works well for peopel that want a more disassociated view of a "past life" expeerience - my persnoal view has always been that whether the experience is real not is not as important as to why it is is found or what importance the person undergoing the regression feels about it. I have also foudn that it works better with people that have previously experimented with the idea and concepts of OOBEs.
The detail in images found within a Christos Method regression geenrally are a lot more superficial than those obtained under hypnotic regression - the overall experience is powerful and emotive generally more so than under hypnosis - almost as if they are created as a way of shocking or causing the regressed person to confront something. Most of hte regressions expereienced under this method seem to be to have a cryptoamnesia component and if then followed up under hypnotic regression tend to find no additional details or time strucxture for event movement as can occur with hypnotic regressions. This suggests that the christos recall is more of a constructed memory than total recall event as one would expect from a hypnotic regression.
Alongside thisit is possible for the other people involved in the christos method to either consciously or unconsciousaly control or embroider or minise information coming into a christos visualisation. A few years back we did some experimentation with regards to having someone sitting reading a book on a particular topif or period of history - with the people performing the regression under thechristos method being unaware of the period choosen., And mant of the experience sthen matched that ofhte period being read by the person elsewhere in toroom - whihc suggests ther is almost some form of thought field transference taking place. Unfortuantely this experiences neveer fully explored or written up at teh tiem as it was in my own "experimentation" time before getting into professional therapy.
It will be intersting to see what other experiences people have had of this method.
RE: Bad past life regression experience?
Thanks, Dave, that's interesting. I've actually never dialogued with anybody else using the Christos, and I stopped using it 20 years ago as I wasn't sure how I felt about it all, a personal choice as mentioned above. But it is interesting. Inducing a Christos experience consists of several stages, and I was interested to 'break it down' to see what was really essential and functional e.g. to miss out some stages.
Your approach, like Glaskin's is pragmatic - whatever it is, and whether it is real or not, if it helps use it, if I understand you.
It certainly is amazing what the human mind can conjure if a percentage (or all?) Christos regressions are not authentic. Glaskin, who popularised it in the 70s, recorded extraordinary regressions on what we might take to be Atlantis (?) of being a very primitive human but discovering a high technology, and another life of being a human crossed with a bird.... One of my subjects experienced coming down from the sky in order to embody within the womb - a ride like a long playground slide, and a great unwillingness to embody.
In my first weeks of trying it as a teen I'd cite myself as the worst-case person you could ever go to for such an experience - 😀 - I didn't believe it would work, so tried it on my friend as soon as I'd read up on how to get him regressed, but expecting no joy. When he was drowning in that life, and spluttering red-faced on the couch in this one, this found me desperately flicking through the second half of the book, as I hadn't yet read up on how to bring anybody back! [&o]
While I was using it, it began to seem to me that if people were very intellectual, such as a PhD I did it with, they held a part of themselves back and the involved part of themselves was certainly 'making it up' as they themselves reported afterward that they felt. It's as if they too were holding back and 'watching' themselves go through it.
Since the initial stages seem something like an OOBE, I wondered at the time about the method's uses for remote viewing.
V