So .... to wrap this up, in a nutshell the friend who I felt dominated me and got over-aggressive was sent my way so that I learnt to stand up for myself ??
Here is a quote which I think best summarises the situation...
"Life will give you whatever experience is most helpful for the evolution of your consciousness. How do you know this is the experience you need? Because this is the experience you are having at the moment" (Eckhart Tolle)
So .... to wrap this up, in a nutshell the friend who I felt dominated me and got over-aggressive was sent my way so that I learnt to stand up for myself ??
By whom?
There are assumptions all through this thread that lessons are set for us. Where is your evidence?
I wonder what passive means ?? hahaha
I let my ex partner push me about a few times, a few work bosses shout in my face and have a go at me constantly. I had a friend tell me off once about how I was living my life and the choices I wanted to make even when it was something simple like buying a bottle of shampoo. She even said to me at the time - 'Why are you being so passive?'. I found it a little interferring and it makes me want to keep people at a distance sometimes.
My parents have physically and verbally attacked me occassionally.
I've never really said anything.Lately I have started having a go at people and telling them off about how they are which they're not quite enjoying very much.
It's probably not ideal but they need to hear it.I'm not moaning and complaining though as I've seen so many other people go through these sorts of things.
Now I'm recollecting these memories I'm thinking damn uhhhhh doormat ??????
From a shamanic point of view, any and all of these incidents will cause soul loss.
And no. They don't need to hear it. Two wrongs and all that. It doesn't solve anything.
By whom?
There are assumptions all through this thread that lessons are set for us. Where is your evidence?
What would satisfy you? A letter from God!?
Are they assumptions or beliefs? Where is your evidence on soul loss? Hazy area right?
Who has access to the bigger picture? Certain situations feel 'meant', e.g. especially when certain themes/patterns get repeated. The fact that these get resolved when we get the message/learn from them should speak volumes.
I just remember another thing that happened to me a while back. I was going through a tough time where I was feeling quite low. I was working in a job with a very nasty colleague and he used to shout at me constantly and sometimes throw insults.
I don't like to admit it but I found the experience very frightening and it really scared me on the inside. He had awful energy & when he came near me I felt absolute fear.
He was nice with another female colleague because he fancied her but with me and others he was very nasty.
Part of me wishes I laid right into him but it wouldn't have solved anything. I think standing there solid and being totally unaffected by him would have been brilliant. I don't think it showed that I was scared though ... at least I hope it didn't.
Thanks everyone for your replies. This has really helped me because sometimes it's nice to share and hear other people's views.
Yes we have been there before and I see you are not interested in examining/discussing your beliefs, i.e. that you are closed off to this. Your choice....indeed what can be said!?
Amy can you please say what happens when a person is closed off and not interested in examining/discussing their beliefs?
Whilst I appreciate that you are replying to Poppy-summer, this is a forum (not a private conversation) and it is the nature of a forum that we can all freely interact and offer feedback.
Having had direct interaction with New Agers now for a very long time, I find your view of them woefully inaccurate and sweeping in its generalisations, so I do feel the need to correct this false appraisal for the benefit of others who read this thread. I trust you will now understand my motive. Thank you.
You find my view woefully inaccurate and sweepin (exactly what you said last time we went through in "perils of healing" thread too)
and I understand you are trying to help and benefit the readers of this post....which you were trying to do in that thread too. You were trying to defend who you thought were going to be offended by my post and the great injustice of my words, my false appraisal...You are doing exactly the same here.
in one breath you say people are free to interact and express their views here....if so people, or anyone has anything to say about what I post, they can post. right? But luckily it's always Amy...correcting for benefit of others....putting the wrongs to right....what she thinks needs correcting.
If I was to use your own logic (not that I need to or will simply because it is not my logic), I could say that Amy, it is a sweeping and woefully inaccurate appraisal of my post. Bits upset you and the rest of the post is ignored. There is an essence of everything, that is way more important than bits. There is an essence in your post in op's post, in each post here....sometimes getting caught up in words, we miss the essence altogether.
I am out today, will be back tomorrow
I see you.
Love
Amy can you please say what happens when a person is closed off and not interested in examining/discussing their beliefs?
Whilst I appreciate that you are replying to Poppy-summer, this is a forum (not a private conversation) and it is the nature of a forum that we can all freely interact and offer feedback.
Having had direct interaction with New Agers now for a very long time, I find your view of them woefully inaccurate and sweeping in its generalisations, so I do feel the need to correct this false appraisal for the benefit of others who read this thread. I trust you will now understand my motive. Thank you.
You find my view woefully inaccurate and sweepin (exactly what you said last time we went through in "perils of healing" thread too)
and I understand you are trying to help and benefit the readers of this post....which you were trying to do in that thread too. You were trying to defend who you thought were going to be offended by my post and the great injustice of my words, my false appraisal...You are doing exactly the same here.in one breath you say people are free to interact and express their views here....if so people, or anyone has anything to say about what I post, they can post. right? But luckily it's always Amy...correcting for benefit of others....putting the wrongs to right....what she thinks needs correcting.
If I was to use your own logic (not that I need to or will simply because it is not my logic), I could say that Amy, it is a sweeping and woefully inaccurate appraisal of my post. Bits upset you and the rest of the post is ignored. There is an essence of everything, that is way more important than bits. There is an essence in your post in op's post, in each post here....sometimes getting caught up in words, we miss the essence altogether.
I am out today, will be back tomorrow
I see you.
Love_______________________________________________________________________________
IN REPLYRe. what I said about being closed off and not interested in examining/discussing beliefs - it was with regard to you announcing
My response is directly to poppy summers and her alone. I am not addressing anyone else. (Page 1 #14)It is YOURSELF who dislikes free interaction since it was very noticeable (in a previous thread) how you resented my input/posts, preferring to be the sole member conversing with the person starting a thread. I was truly surprised by that! You are now implying I am gagging people? Huh? How so? Can you supply any evidence whatsoever in this peculiar assertion? The reverse is true! Totally baffling and highly illogical.
You clearly dislike that I correct you on your woefully skewed judgement on New Agers (of which I have ample real, interactive experience with so your ignorance is easily seen).
It is the nature of replies that not everything in a post gets addressed, i.e. members pick out the areas that they wish to offer feedback on. I could say the same to yourself since you have done the same so please observe how you are here because what you are accusing me of is exactly what you are doing yourself!
You have offered your way of solving the issue here (to Poppy-summer) which I have not directly criticised. However, I did take you up on you saying that you don't recognise that awareness is ALSO used in other routes/techniques, i.e. not exclusively in your solution.
Sorry, I experienced difficulties with editing the boxes with replying to jnani's post. Here it is...
Re. what I said about being closed off and not interested in examining/discussing beliefs - it was with regard to you announcing
My response is directly to poppy summers and her alone. I am not addressing anyone else. (Page 1 #14)
It is YOURSELF who dislikes free interaction since it was very noticeable (in a previous thread) how you resented my input/posts, preferring to be the sole member conversing with the person starting a thread. I was truly surprised by that! You are now implying I am gagging people? Huh? How so? Can you supply any evidence whatsoever in this peculiar assertion? The reverse is true! Totally baffling and highly illogical.
You clearly dislike that I correct you on your woefully skewed judgement on New Agers (of which I have ample real, interactive experience with so your ignorance is easily seen).
It is the nature of replies that not everything in a post gets addressed, i.e. members pick out the areas that they wish to offer feedback on. I could say the same to yourself since you have done the same so please observe how you are here because what you are accusing me of is exactly what you are doing yourself!
You have offered your way of solving the issue here (to Poppy-summer) which I have not directly criticised. However, I did take you up on you saying that you don't recognise that awareness is ALSO used in other routes/techniques, i.e. not exclusively in your solution.
I'm also starting to understand about not having people rope me into things.
I'm a person who likes to do what I want and when I want.
When I was younger I was very eager to please and diverting my energy here, there and everywhere.
It's funny seeing how different everything is when you stop doing this.
I might be slightly wrong in what I'm saying here but to me it makes sense.
Hahahaha I've come in as a healing energy.
I value both your opinions equally with regards to my initial post in this thread and I thank you for taking the time to offer your views.
xx
Hahahaha I've come in as a healing energy.
I value both your opinions equally with regards to my initial post in this thread and I thank you for taking the time to offer your views.
xx
Thank you.
It is unfortunate that jnani and I are seen to be continuing our same arguments that have not been reconciled from a previous thread. I find it peculiar that she does not recognise, in herself, what she is (peculiarly) accusing myself of. That does require humility and honesty. I have no problem in admitting where I may be at fault since I am more interested in truth than propagating my own belief. It will be interesting to see if she addresses the points I have raised in my last post to her (above).
I welcome reaching a better understanding with her via PM if she is amenable to this.
Haha intellectual differences. That's okay though 🙂
Haha intellectual differences. That's okay though 🙂
Yes it would be OK if it stayed on a civil level. Jnani's last post here clearly shows how much she dislikes me - witness the sarcastic tone of her post (page 2 # 36)....and then ends the post with 'Love' (??) 
I hope to be able to resolve our differences but I am due for an operation this week and am mindful to avoid any stress, so I may delay responding until much later. If jnani likes the idea of PMing me to reach a better understanding of each other, then could she please wait until next Friday 22nd? Thank you.
Hahaha
Oh sorry to hear about that. Good luck with it all.
xx
Yes it would be OK if it stayed on a civil level. Jnani's last post here clearly shows how much she dislikes me - witness the sarcastic tone of her post (page 2 # 36)....and then ends the post with 'Love' (??)
I hope to be able to resolve our differences but I am due for an operation this week and am mindful to avoid any stress, so I may delay responding until much later. If jnani likes the idea of PMing me to reach a better understanding of each other, then could she please wait until next Friday 22nd? Thank you.
Quite a lot of disagreement. I'm not detecting dislike. After all, you and I disagree sometimes and I certainly don't dislike you.