Many scammers offer a money back gurantee, but it's just words in the end, getting it back is another thing.
Myarka.
you're absolutely right, it's a scam.
Ok, not sure if that's tongue in cheek chakraman, but this looks as if it's bordering on libellous now.
Myarka, you're basing your conclusions on your understanding of electronics, and your assumptions about the physiology. My experience is that this is an area of physiology that many people are totally unaware of. So it's been produced by an lone amateur or very low-resource upstart. Let's remember the huge contribution made to science by amateurs, only this week two amateur astronomers discovered a previously un-noticed supernova out of their garden shed.
So Janet, well, there is a rationale for how this may help, and a rationale for how it may not work exactly as desired due to the complications of the physiology, and a question-mark over whether the box of tricks produces the outputs claimed.
As to whether to buy or not...
I'd say that depends on how important it is to you that you get an exactly right result first time, and lots of other personal values and circumstances, eg. can you afford to lose the cash if it doesn't work, are you well enough to deal with unpredicted side-effects if they occur etc etc. Perhaps you are curious by nature, and would just like to satisfy your interest - there's nothing wrong with that as a justification.
Given the lack of scientific certainty and other considerations, a life-coach is probably best placed to help you, but sooner or later it is you who must decide for yourself and caveat emptor!
Looking at the technical specs for this device, it is a very simple circuit. Anyone with some electronic construction experience can build such device. All the components could be brought at Maplins on the high street for a few £'s.
Whether it works, I don't honestly know. But I wouldn't spend money on something without further investigation. As for the use of electricity and healing, this is not new, but could such a device produce a big enough current to make an effect on the gut, I find that questionable!
RP
Hello Janet
I'm neither a professional zapper user, nor do I have any opinion on the device itself. But I wonder if it might be helpful to look at something in a similar area, that of Hulda Clarke and her zappers? [See: [DLMURL="http://www.drclark.net/en/products_devices/devices/zapper.php"]here[/DLMURL]] It's a far more generic device - aimed at treating parasites, bacteria, viruses, molds and fungi. There are a wide range of frequencies... I guess you choose the one aimed at treating whichever of the above concerns you the most.
Plus there are loads of [DLMURL="http://www.drclark.net/en/testimonials/zapper/index.php"]testimonials[/DLMURL], and there are discussions in Curezone on zappers (use their Search tool). Maybe you could read those, or ask your questions of folk who have actually bought and used them?
As a last suggestion you may wish to approach [url]Bobbys Shop[/url]. His parents spent tens of thousands of pounds and used every conceivable tool for health promotion. I saw a series of very sad but ultimately positive videos on YouTube, and I recall that in one of them they mentioned some sort of zapper-type device. Maybe you could email them and ask what they used, and what their opinion of it was?
Good luck!
Ava x
kvdp, no i don't think it's a scam. wasn't tongue in cheek, more exasperation, which is my shortcoming.
i'm certainly not against it and think they maybe a valid treatment. there is alot of info out there regarding zappers. personally i think we'll be seeing them on pharmacy shelves in the future. they aren't dangerous.
rp, you're right they cannot reach the gut which is generally why as far as hulda clark and her zappers go, they recommend a herbal parasite cleanse in conjunction with. a blend of cloves wormwood and something else if my memory serves me correctly. how effective the overall program is i can't say. although a good anti-putrefactive diet can do similar but more gently and slower i believe. that said, just doing the blood alone may have a great effect, although the lymph again is not so readily got to.
alot of people cannot tolerate herbs, vitamins and/or anything concentrated even flower essences and homeopathy with the alcohol or the fact that potentised or succussed energies can be difficult to ground if there is alot of digestive upset, as such energy medicine treatments and bio-resonance is away of helping the body improve when other approaches hinder as you imbibe nothing.
i think the fact that zappers help alot of people is generally pretty well established.
speaking generally for folk with long term chronic health issues the use of devices that may enable taking responsibilty for one's health and of course becoming independant of the financial burden of private treatment is a boon i think. does this come under that category, possibly. i'm a great believer in diy complimentary therapy. atb...
KVDP be interested to hear your rationale for it and against it!
http://comsci.org.uk/products/becksZapper/silver_maker_zapper.htm
Hi Janet, this is the one I have, but I was gifted it by family.
Hope that helps xx
Hi Janet, I've touched on those earlier. As a method it may well kill germs/candida. The important point as I see it is that germs are not the cause of disease, in some cases they may even be the body's solution to disease. Killing them directly does not address the issue of why we are ill in the first place. Some of the problems of antibiotics are not just the result of the toxins in the antibiotics, but are embedded in the theory that killing germs is the answer to either prevention or cure - it's seldom any better than treating symptoms.
Swab any member of this forum and you'll find practically every 'pathogen' known to man, and many unknown, yet we're clearly not all dying. You'll find MRSA, HIV, Candida, Streptococcus, influenza, meningococcus, the lot. So clearly disease is not just about germs, there is a whole context to every problem.
Myarka, yes the components may be cheap, I fail to see the relevance The ingredients of a loaf of bread cost pennies, yet most of us are happy to pay somebody else to make it. What we're paying for is the knowledge and time of somebody who knows something we don't.
As usual, I would say, if you want a quick fix, then that's for you to choose based on your own value set. If you want an answer to your health problems, check in with a practitioner who can give you the personal guidance required. If you want to try out this gizmo, then find somebody who treats using one, they are out there.
Nb. for more on the relevance of germs in disease, look at 'Bechamp or Pasteur, a lost chapter in the history of biology', by Ethel Douglas Hume. It's an explosive and brilliantly researched piece that will shatter all your beliefs about germs.
Also Henry Lindlahr's 'philosophy of natural therapeutics', which looks at the broader context of disease, and where germs fit in.
And Robert and Shelley Young's 'Sick and Tired' as already mentioned.
Hi
From a Chinese medicine point of view candida is associated with Dampness. Dampness may be from certain foods, environmental factors and digestive weakness (Spleen Qi Xu). So to me candida is a reflection of the internal dysbiosis/ecology of the gut to the external dysbiosis/ecology of the world we are living in (and that can be emotional as well - stress, over thinking etc). If we can improve our digestive fitness and change lifestyle habits, the immune system can improve and food/chemical intolerences decrease.
I can't see nothing wrong in using devices, herbs, dietary suppliments, elimination diets to kick start the body into action, but I notice that many candida suffers like to detox and then retox again. So to me building immunity and strengthening digestive capacity is more of an important long term strategy.
Kvpd, I think it was me that mentioned about cheap electronic components 😉 And I agree with you about germs, there is lack of awareness of ecology - internally and externally.
Best Wishes
RP
Yes I agree with some of the comments you make about dampness etc. a lot of what you have said about candida is exactly what an acupunturist told me.
RP, thanks for the correction, Myarka, my apologies for miscrediting you.
As a parting shot, I do notice a general effect of 'quick fixes' of all kinds, when they are applied without a constitutional approach. This applies to liver flushes, herbs, detoxes, spinal manipulation, etc etc.
As the patient begins to feel better during the 'palliative' early stages, they resume with vigour the habits that got them into the mess in the first place. The small release of energy or reserve that has enabled this should have been applied to recovery instead, and is quickly depleted. So unless the patient addresses many things, the therapy can actually enable the patient to get further into the hole.
What should happen is the energy made available by the intervention should be reserved for changes that will enable the next bit of recovery.
As a parting shot, I do notice a general effect of 'quick fixes' of all kinds, when they are applied without a constitutional approach...
I'm in absolute agreement with you. But for folk like Janet who have had a an excellent diet over the long-term, and the guidance of a therapist I do think that psychologically it's important to try other things. I think we need to add new tools to our armoury if only to invigorate us with hope - that we are continuing to address our health issues. Otherwise one can feel that we are plodding along and not getting anywhere. [Mind you the new tool/s might still get you nowhere, but at least you tried.]
I do take your point though, that some folk can fall prey to lurching from one quick fix to another, without the underpinning of a healthy diet and lifestyle. And that is very much to be discouraged.
Ava x
Nb. for more on the relevance of germs in disease, look at 'Bechamp or Pasteur, a lost chapter in the history of biology', by Ethel Douglas Hume. It's an explosive and brilliantly researched piece that will shatter all your beliefs about germs.
Also Henry Lindlahr's 'philosophy of natural therapeutics', which looks at the broader context of disease, and where germs fit in.
And Robert and Shelley Young's 'Sick and Tired' as already mentioned.
i have one of henry lindlahrs books, he's very good, knows his subject well.
rudolph steiner had some interesting ideas on pathogenic microbes; for instance he claimed that once the body had successfully fought off measles without intervention other than natural support, that the central nervous system was thus strengthened. hence they maybe an antagonistic catalyst for reaching your full physical potential.
Well, measles in an interesting case in point, seen by some, not so much a disease as a developmental milestone, only fatal or harmful in the presence of malnutrition. But we're going OT now. For more info see some of the publications from '[url]the informed parent[/url]', there's a lovely little text by homoeopath Trevor Gunn on the subject of natural immunity - very modern, well researched, intereting and easy to read.