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Came across this on a website the other day and it's an alternative treatment for candida. Has anyone heard of it/any experience of it or is it just another waste of money.

Alternative Candida Treatment: Candida Zapper
http://dragonfly75.com/eng/CZ.html

Be interested to hear views of the professionals on this one.


 
Posted : 09/10/2010 8:03 am
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Hi Janet.
I'm no professional, but I use my zapper (a very similar one, but not exact) on occasion and I do feel it makes a difference to the ailments I was using it for.
I apparently electrode tested positive for candida overgrowth (and do suffer with IBS/constant fatigue), but due to the way I use my zapper I can't really tell you either way if it kills candida.
I use it periodcally for a couple of days at a time (not for a many days running as mentioned on the link) and drink shedloads of water as required, and it always helps pick me up to feel I can fight whatever it is that's attacking my immune system at that particular moment.
I'm open-minded enough to know it could just be the increased intake of water that helps me feel better, but I also know that the 20mins sat down with it on makes me feel so envigorated and efficient once again.

I hope that helps you a little. I can go have a look and see what make mine is if you like.
Sarah x


 
Posted : 09/10/2010 1:32 pm
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Hi Sarah

Thanks for replying - I'm perhaps interested now that I know someone has felt benefit from using it.

So please tell me - how do you use it, do you get any side effects from using it, what other benefits have you felt and what do you use it for? Do you think it's worth getting one - I have been tested positive for candida by a stool test but although it proved positive I do wonder because I feel too well in myself when you read how other people feel when they say they have it - my only symptom would be stomach bloating - so wonder if the zapper would have any direct effect on that - what do you think?

Thanks though - I'm interested in anything anyone has to say about this.


 
Posted : 09/10/2010 8:16 pm
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PS

Yes tell me what make yours is - where did you get it from?


 
Posted : 09/10/2010 8:17 pm
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Hi there,
this seems to be based on the discoveries of RR Rife, inventor of the Rife Microscope, that could see incredibly small elements of cells, and who observed a whole ecology below the level of the cell.

I can't go into all the implications here of pleimorphism theory, which was around long before Rife. However, he did discover that different cells, viruses, organelles etc vibrate at certain frequencies, and will die if exposed to the right frequency - much like a glass shattering due to a high note.

Rife reasoned that this method could kill any germ within the body whilst leaving everything else unharmed. As a historical point, the medical profession were so threatened by this idea, that it is said the AMA actually burned down Rife's lab and trashed his career.

However, there was a significant piece missing fromn his theory, and that is the role of germs in health and disease. Robert and Shelley Young explain that the reason the germs/fungi etc are there in the first place is due to the way the body is functioning. For example, candida proliferates in an acidic environment. It (germ, fungus) becomes a dustman or a dustbin for toxic waste, it is the toxins that attract them in the first place.

When you simply kill a germ, their guts spew out into the blood and tissues - this creates a potentially harmful toxic reaction, which is a known complication of antibiotics. The challenge, as the Youngs put it, is to make the body an inhospitable environment for germs etc (for the purposes of this I include candida), at which stage they 'pack up and leave'.

For more info see 'Sick and Tired, reclaim your inner terrain', by Robert and Shelly Young, this concept is a must for any natural healer.

So there may be some merit in the idea of this zapper, to an extent. Whether the box itself actually does anything at all I have no personal knowledge.


 
Posted : 09/10/2010 9:44 pm
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interesting...hal huggins (anti-mercury filling guy) once posited that if you could remove all the candida from your body instantly (which at present is of course impossible) you may become very ill/much worse as the candida has a protective element. in the instance of mercury, i think! candida may prevent conversion to the more lethal methyl mercury and hence protect.

as per the device, i think i'm down with them so long as they are part of an overall program that includes diet and detox. i reckon your body should say whether to slow down with it. i assume the toxic affect of killing a microbe and it letting loose it's guts is whats known as herxheimer reaction. i see that rather than it taking place slowly and naturally as the cns and digestion strengthen, it's being done rapidly using the device (depending on how long treatments are of course).

provided it's not rushed and is supported with diet etc i think they can be a handy tool. one good thing about bio-resonance is the fact that you're not introducing any physical substance into the body that may just add to the overall load rather than have a healing affect. candida diet can be helpful, atb...


 
Posted : 09/10/2010 11:16 pm
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So KVDP and Chakraman - should I buy or should I not? I'm doing a clean diet and trying to make it more alkaline also by eating the right food.


 
Posted : 10/10/2010 6:58 am
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hi, i'm not sure about recommending you part with your money but i'd have no reservation if i could afford it. i'm pretty sure they're harmless, afterall your inputting a tiny electrical current into your body, much smaller than a tens machine. it maybe frequency specific and so have an affect seemingly larger than it's apparent cause but i don't think it can do any harm, "maybe" a strong herx reaction, which isn't anything that bad. i believe it's a safe method. i'd try it myself happily. i even considered making one as the electronic plans are quite simple and freely available. i couldn't vouch for this particular device but i assume it's made on the same ideas as other well known "zapper's".

the worst that can happen is that it does nowt and you get your money back, as offered. (if you buy that one)

usually they have a range of frequencies to combat many microbes but i think this one's marketting is aimed at candida as that is a word many know...perhaps he's being clever. nothing wrong with that per se...so long as it does the most one of these devices can as apparently the differ greatly in functionality.

there are lots of good vids on youtube, here's one by bob beck (i question if it's the best device this century)::

if you click on this vid there is one on the top right that talks of ebay feedback etc which can be a good source of opinons in my experience.

i would flick through a few vids and check out a few different zappers before deciding on one. atb...


 
Posted : 10/10/2010 11:22 am
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Be interested to hear views of the professionals on this one.

As an electronics engineer having a good understanding of resonating frequencies and their effects. I think you would be better off saving your money.

I've also just read the "study" paper linked to the advert and find lacking substance and poorly written. Which implies that's it's written more for the unaware than presenting a scientific study.

Just my take.

Myarka


 
Posted : 10/10/2010 1:00 pm
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Well I was going to ask if it doesn't clear candida what benefits would I get from it?


 
Posted : 10/10/2010 1:57 pm
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In other words what would be the negatives of using it and what would be the positives of using it - would there be an overall improvement in your health etc?


 
Posted : 10/10/2010 1:58 pm
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In other words what would be the negatives of using it and what would be the positives of using it - would there be an overall improvement in your health etc?

The negatives are someone is laughing all the way to the bank with your hard earned cash.

And the positives are the frequencies described are going to do you any harm.

There's no reason why you wouldn't get the same effects from standing close to the speakers of your hi fi.

Myarka.


 
Posted : 10/10/2010 2:11 pm
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The negatives are someone is laughing all the way to the bank with your hard earned cash.

hmmm...he offers a money back gurantee. and yes sound can be used to heal to of course, not sure it would be as direct as attaching electrodes to the skin by an artery. bio-resonance is everywhere and is, i thought, a fairly well recognised school of complimentary therapy.


 
Posted : 10/10/2010 2:36 pm
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hmmm...he offers a money back gurantee.

Many scammers offer a money back gurantee, but it's just words in the end, getting it back is another thing.

Myarka.


 
Posted : 10/10/2010 3:04 pm
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I've read up on it on the internet - there's good reviews and some bad - think for now it's not something I'll pursue - just hadn't heard of this machine before.


 
Posted : 10/10/2010 3:25 pm
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