You answered at the same time I posted.
Yes, truly believe you have grasped the wrong end of the stick and won't now acknowledge this.
Goodbye - I'm through with talking to robotic-type people.........!
You mention "we" a lot in your previous posts - don't include me in that we.... if you're only just beginning to understands those things - why not just say you.
I was on the Daily Mirror website the other day and came across this interesting news story.
A man cured his terminal cancer by totally altering his diet.
The full story
[url]Man cures himself of cancer using wacky alternative diet - Mirror Online[/url]
Going to the concept of PNI, one could consider that if the man felt he had an element of control over what was happening to him that linking a better emotional response could possibly up-regulate NK cell activity..possibly?:)
Going to the concept of PNI, one could consider that if the man felt he had an element of control over what was happening to him that linking a better emotional response could possibly up-regulate NK cell activity..possibly?:)
I agree it is more than likely, given the links between the functioning of the emotions, the neurological system and the immune system as shown in PNI research.
There is an interesting overview of this incredibly complex subject here for those of us with a lesser grip on biochemistry.
There is also neutrigenomics and epigenitics which also have a effect on how the body functions. With reference to the disappearance of the man's cancer, I would expect an element of neutrigenomics is involved, but probably not without the othe other two disciplines.
Most of this research is by biochemists and has not been accepted or taken on board yet by the medical profession. We looked at this through our course and [url]Jeff Bland's [/url]lectures over the years. He is one of the leading researchers into Functional Medicine which incorporates the above researches with close links to many universities all over USA and beyond too. A fascinating area to look into - and shows that probably the ways of treating people traditionally has in fact firm roots, but is looking at it from the scientific direction.
This is a very interesting story on many levels. When anyone survives a "terminal" diagnosis their story is worth listening to.
Clearly diet together with exercise, and getting enough sleep - and I would add exposure to sunshine to the mix as well and minmalising stress, as being essential to maintaining a healthy immune system, which is key to fending off cancer.
The diet the gentleman in question was/is following is strongly alkaline and that has to be a major factor in his recovery.
I wonder if there is a mental/emotional factor to this as well? One wouldn't be human if one wasn't 'crushed' after receiving a terminal diagnosis. But then finding alternative "cancer cures" on the internet, if you believed in them, one would experience a surge of hope and inner strength...I'm not suggesting a placebo effect here, but the mind is a powerful thing and you can do feats you didn't think you could when you are rightly motivated.
And yes, a bit of an insult to label the diet 'wacky' but it is a good thing to have the story in the national newspapers as it can only help change people's mindsets and awaken people to the possibilities of alternative medicine and sound nutrition.
HI Mountaineer
Like I said earlier cancer is the strangest thing, people I know with good prognosis who are now gone and people with poor prognosis still here.
My friend Janice was diagnosed with DCIS which is a pre-cancerous stage and was advised it was so minor that surgery was all that was required. Within a year she had extensive secondaries. My son had Ewings sarcoma with a very poor prognosis and is still here 9 years on:). My own prognosis was somewhere in between and, touch wood, am still here.
Now I eat a very healthy diet but I am fond of the odd glass of vino and, in fact, continued to have my wine though-out my chemo (must have the liver of a rhino). As we all know alcohol is very acid forming.
I do remember going to see a nutritional therapist when diagnosed who told me I could never, ever, ever, ever drink alcohol again as it was fuel on a fire (lovely woman but I just knew then we weren't going to develop a client/therapist bond). That was 10 years ago! Maybe I have just been lucky but it kind of flies in the face of the healthy living idea which is why I believe there is more to all this than we will ever know.
p.s. I DO take a probiotic supplement every day (did my dissertation on them....now THEY are the be all and end all...to me anyway!!). Massive part of the immune system we are just beginning to uncover.
I think you just do what you feel is best at the time.
Patchouli
Hi Guys ..
Slightly off topic but still it points to a natural remedy that has helped cure a lady from her condition . In this instance it was Crohns disease ..
[url]Eating tree bark cured my Crohn's disease, says grandmother | Mail Online[/url]
x dazzle x
HI Mountaineer
Like I said earlier cancer is the strangest thing, people I know with good prognosis who are now gone and people with poor prognosis still here.
My friend Janice was diagnosed with DCIS which is a pre-cancerous stage and was advised it was so minor that surgery was all that was required. Within a year she had extensive secondaries. My son had Ewings sarcoma with a very poor prognosis and is still here 9 years on:). My own prognosis was somewhere in between and, touch wood, am still here.
Now I eat a very healthy diet but I am fond of the odd glass of vino and, in fact, continued to have my wine though-out my chemo (must have the liver of a rhino). As we all know alcohol is very acid forming.
I do remember going to see a nutritional therapist when diagnosed who told me I could never, ever, ever, ever drink alcohol again as it was fuel on a fire (lovely woman but I just knew then we weren't going to develop a client/therapist bond). That was 10 years ago! Maybe I have just been lucky but it kind of flies in the face of the healthy living idea which is why I believe there is more to all this than we will ever know.
p.s. I DO take a probiotic supplement every day (did my dissertation on them....now THEY are the be all and end all...to me anyway!!). Massive part of the immune system we are just beginning to uncover.
I think you just do what you feel is best at the time.
Patchouli
No matter how one might want to dress it up, this man has 'cured' his "terminal cancer" simply by changing his diet and taking a few supplements (You can get vitamin C in Tescos and selenium in Boots), it's such a simple basic approach that anyone could do and the ramifications for allopathic cancer 'industry' are huge. 30 years ago I doubt any editor would have dared to print the story.
Dropping red meat, dairy and sugar from one's diet would seem to be a prerequisite for anyone with cancer, though not information coming through the cancer charities...
I'm glad you and your son have made it through your cancer experiences.
As you say, you have to play it as you feel it at the time.
Wine is a no-no for cancer sufferers, but then maybe it kept your spirits up and added to your quality of life, so in that respect it was a positive.
As you, I do believe in the importance of a positive attitude. I'm also a great believer in spiritual healing, and visualisation. What is it they say, we use only 5% of our brain capacity? I think there are great possibilities in the fields, not just of nutrition, but in body chemistry and self-healing as well, just waiting to be discovered.
Wine is a no-no for cancer sufferers, [COLOR="Red"]but then maybe it kept your spirits up and added to your quality of life, so in that respect it was a positive.
As you, I do believe in the importance of a positive attitude. I'm also a great believer in spiritual healing, and visualisation. What is it they say, we use only 5% of our brain capacity? I think there are great possibilities in the fields, not just of nutrition, but in body chemistry and self-healing as well, just waiting to be discovered.
I have heard there have been studies done whereby dieters were split into two groups, one half were allowed chocolate and the other half were not. The stress levels of the ones not allowed chocolate rocketed which is obviously very unhealthy (and can lead to weight gain biochemically)....it's all in the mind and why I don't believe in "diets" as such.
Which is why I love PNI and even with 20+ years in nursing and 10 in natural health I believe we know so very little about our bodies. 😀
Hi Guys ..
Slightly off topic but still it points to a natural remedy that has helped cure a lady from her condition . In this instance it was Crohns disease ..
[url]Eating tree bark cured my Crohn's disease, says grandmother | Mail Online[/url]
x dazzle x
Yes, I read this (did my dissertation for NT in probiotics and Crohns). It doesn't say in the article what the compound was in the bark that helped. I am sure people with a herbalism background would know (given I didn't get to finish my herb degree due to course provider folding :mad:)
Shame it said she was going to sell "her secrets" to a pharmaceutical company but in actuality I don't think it is possible to patent something like that anyway. Tashanie may know more.
I always have to give these disclaimers-I am heading into my 8th year of not curing my cancer. I have NO PROOF that what I have done for the past seven years and 9 months has had ANY effect on my cancer. I have no proof that changing my diet, increasing the alkalinity of my blood and taking MSM, the dreaded laetrile-B17, Omega 3's, Vit D-3, etc has had any effect on my life. In this time period, I have not been chemo'd, radiated or operated on and have not, to the best of my knowledge, introduced any know carcinogens into my body. Having said all that- I feel pretty darn good 🙂
kcat
Shame it said she was going to sell "her secrets" to a pharmaceutical company but in actuality I don't think it is possible to patent something like that anyway. Tashanie may know more.
I wonder Patchouli if there is any intent by the pharmaceutical companies in question to use such a formula for widespread distribution or they will rather just sit on it so that the formula doesn't become known / available to the general public .
x dazzle x