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Crowan
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"If there’s one simple fact about past Earth climates that should keep you awake at night it’s this — warming the world ocean eventually produces a killing mechanism that is unrivaled by any other in Earth’s deep past. Great asteroids, gamma ray bursters, earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanism — none of these can rival the vast damage to life on planet Earth resulting from ocean warming."

https://robertscribbler.com/2016/09/08/new-study-blow-torch-like-ocean-warming-advances-killer-seas-shifts-el-nino-heats-hydrates/


 
Posted : 08/09/2016 9:36 pm
amy green
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Rather than predictions, I find the current trend/state of affairs more interesting and hard hitting.

On this same topic....

Ocean warming is already affecting ecosystems from polar to tropical regions, driving entire groups of species such as plankton, jellyfish, turtles and seabirds up to 10 degrees of latitude towards the poles, causing the loss of breeding grounds for turtles and seabirds, and affecting the breeding success of marine mammals, according to the report. (International Union for Conservation of Nature)...

Here is the full article...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/09/160906085016.htm


 
Posted : 08/09/2016 10:04 pm
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While I agree that your article is important, I'm not sure why it is preferable to 'predictions'. This is no more a 'prediction' than saying that if you jump off a cliff you will fall.


 
Posted : 13/09/2016 10:06 pm
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While I agree that your article is important, I'm not sure why it is preferable to 'predictions'. This is no more a 'prediction' than saying that if you jump off a cliff you will fall.

The link I gave deals with hard facts. Future predictions have unknown influential factors - questionable probabilities.


 
Posted : 13/09/2016 10:33 pm
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And the link I gave is hard facts followed by what, according to science, will happen as a result.


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 10:05 pm
amy green
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And the link I gave is hard facts followed by what, according to science, will happen as a result.

Yes the hard facts are about the current situation and then it moves away from the known with predictions, using words like "likely" and "possibly".

Of course the situation looks very bleak but who can tell how fast or slowly this will escalate or what may intervene, by way of influencing factors to change the prediction?


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 10:55 pm
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Yes the hard facts are about the current situation and then it moves away from the known with predictions, using words like "likely" and "possibly".

Of course the situation looks very bleak but who can tell how fast or slowly this will escalate or what may intervene, by way of influencing factors to change the prediction?

And what are the advantages of not taking notice?


 
Posted : 16/09/2016 10:50 pm
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And what are the advantages of not taking notice?

I did not put that as an option...I am just saying that peope's eyes glaze over about predictions since they do not have the same alarming clout as what is currently the case, i.e. predictions are possibilities only....a maybe.


 
Posted : 16/09/2016 11:17 pm
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I do think there's a lot of difference between predictions based on bias/belief - such as occur sometimes in politics and economics - and those based on fact, as in science. However, I accept that many people are scientifically illiterate and therefore don't see the difference.

Predictions made, over the last 200 years, about Climate Change have, on the whole, been fulfilled. Where there has been discrepancy, it has been that the actuality has been even worse than predicted.

Now - if you had said:

I did not put that as an option...I am just saying that peope's eyes glaze over about predictions since they do not have the same alarming clout as what is currently the case, i.e. predictions are possibilities only....a maybe.

to begin with, I would probably have agreed. But you didn't. You said:

Rather than predictions, I find the current trend/state of affairs more interesting and hard hitting.

which leads me to wonder why it has to be 'either/or'. I find both of interest.


 
Posted : 21/09/2016 2:05 pm
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