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Venetian
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I've been reviewing some YouTubes of my dear late friend, Anthony C. Sutton of London on a genuine, incontestable secret society with "sordid" aims, founded in 1832, and which both Bush Presidents are members of.

If interested, start here and then look further:

So it's not "conspiracy theory": it's utter proof of a real one, which has shaped our world. They financed the Russion Revolution, the entire USSR so long as it existed, Hitler too.

It continues, with parts 2 to 4. Here's 2. Do watch this:

Part 3:

Part 4: This is not recent news, but you'll see the pattern:

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Posted : 18/05/2010 12:52 pm
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This is democracy in action?

I've gone to a lecture of a Bones member, McGeorge Bundy, when he lectured in Edinburgh once. My intention - but I was fairly younger - was to question him and expose his membership in front of an academic audience of about 200. But I heard - and these were Brits - their drooling admiration of this little human 'god' as he'd been in power with JFK and ever since, and realised no one at all would get it, and the chairman would probably shut me up mid-question.

While working in London around 1990 I happened to talk about the non-democratic secret society to a wealthy American tourist. We were just chatting ... but suddenly she turned into a living fury, and I almost lost my job. In England! (Her uncle was a member.)

I mentioned this topic on HP before, but it was years ago. The subject is surely worth revisiting a little. I'd never seen YouTubes on it. Two US elections back, out of just about one hundred truly active members in a nation of untold millions of people, both presidential candidates were S & B aka The Order! The subject had come out by then a bit, and brave journalists asked both Kerry and Bush about their membership. They both just replied, "Well, I can't talk about that, because it's a secret."

Yet one was going to be elected in! Is this democracy? First, no member of such a society should be allowed into office, but secondly, in that election both were member so either way, The Order won. What was the point even in voting?

One more brief YouTube:

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Posted : 20/05/2010 12:05 am
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Yup V - not a good situation! It has been covered in various books I've read and it doesn't make me feel any more comfortable. Insidious may be a description!


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 9:49 am
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Would we be able to do anything about it anyway??? imho these very powerful people really have it all and we little people are just best not getting involved tho yes i agree with what you say V and caroline (tho i know it cowardley of me to 🙁
come the revolution :)x


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 5:46 pm
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Yup V - not a good situation! It has been covered in various books I've read and it doesn't make me feel any more comfortable. Insidious may be a description!

Interesting to find someone else who's read books on this. 🙂

There was a magazine article back in the 1970s, but then the subject all disappeared again. Of course, "Insiders" in the USA knew of Skull & Bones. For example, in one period many helped shape and were in the CIA, hence the nick-name for spies, "spooks".

But Antony Sutton really began the ball rolling in the 1980s, along with help from Richard "L" as I'll call him, and a minute bit from myself. Sutton wrote a series of books, essentially one comprehensive book in smaller parts - as major publishers, all tied to The Order, wouldn't touch Sutton by then.

So far as books are concerned, you can't do everything in life and the topic, and research into it, rather dropped out of my life in the early 1990s.

"Secrets of The Tomb" by Alexandra Robbins, since she was a female at Yale, and she really kept at trying to interview disaffected members, is very comprehensive and more of an insider's view. However, Sutton brought out The Order's "Hegelian dialectic" i.e. create a thesis (e.g. Soviet Union), then an antithesis (Nazi Germany) if you can, and then you can "manage conflict" to create a synthesis, or world of your choosing. Alexandra Robbins sees the society as great power-seekers, but stops short a bit. ('Cos she's a Yaley?)

Anything else since I don't know of, though I can only guess that people like David Icke 😮 must have picked up on the subject, with their own unresearched slants!

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Posted : 20/05/2010 5:59 pm
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Are They In Obama's Administration?

Bound to be, really. I haven't really looked but already came up with one: Austan Goolsbee:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austan_Goolsbee

I note he's:

"currently serving under President Barack Obama as a member of the Council of Economic Advisers[1] and as chief economist of a new federal panel, the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board chaired by Paul Volcker."

Great. So The Order are in there on "Economic Recovery" ..... advising (twisting the arm) on economic advice.

Edit to add: Just saw he was also a key member in the Obama Presidential Campaign. I'd have to just guess off-hand right now that Obama "owes them".

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Posted : 20/05/2010 6:06 pm
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Would we be able to do anything about it anyway??? imho these very powerful people really have it all and we little people are just best not getting involved tho yes i agree with what you say V and caroline (tho i know it cowardley of me to 🙁
come the revolution :)x

Put in a funny way. 🙂 But you gotta be kidding? Conspiracies have often been foiled. One fairly strong suggestion is the The Order is the second chapter of an older secret society, the actual Bavarian Illuminati, who were foiled with their plans to take over and change Europe in the late 1700s, probably existing in some form into the early 1800s in Europe - hence creating a similar American chapter. Conspiracies can be foiled.

None of us are "little people". We have as much power as we can try to exert. Sutton's expose of The Order, revealing them to daylight, is an example of just one man - already cast out of the academic circles and working independently - can do.

What's the phrase? Evil prevails if good men do nothing? So it's just for good people to (1) get wise - and (2) I guess be less selfish by acting and doing something. 🙂

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Posted : 20/05/2010 6:14 pm
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Would we be able to do anything about it anyway??? imho these very powerful people really have it all and we little people are just best not getting involved

One further thought on this, in reply.

They are "very powerful" partly because we allow them to be, as they are now partly exposed? "We little people" are involved, like it or not. If you like, we are kind-of at war with them, naturally and unavoidably. Millions of us have died. The Order are documented as having largely financed and technologically supported through Wall Street, the creation of the Soviet State. Then the same for Hitler. The Japanese were "allowed" to attack Pearl Harbour - the White House knew of the coming attack - to justify a Pacific War. They wanted and got the long Vietnam War. Bush took us into Iraq. They were key players behind the Manhatten Project which created the atomic bomb.

In short - 🙂 (ya have to smile in a way) - how involved have we all already been, as victims? Totally, by tens of millions. We can't escape being involved, so might as well do well out of it.

... Yes, granted, it's not so easy for one ordinary citizen in the UK ... I once wrote an article, "Skull and Bones in the White House", to try to stop Bush Snr. becoming the first Bush president: not one newspaper or magazine in Britain even got back to me: they wouldn't touch the topic then.

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Posted : 20/05/2010 8:01 pm
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