O.K. so the contrails last longer than a few seconds....so what? They look noticeably different to the chemtrails don't they? Surely that's the main point.
No, they don't look different. The 'proof' shown in the images and the wording of that video show that the person producing it knows nothing about fluid dynamics or how the different factors effect vapour trails in the different atmospheric conditions.
First you say there's a conspiracy then you say the government admits putting chemicals in the atmosphere.....I give up! How do we know if it's stopped?
Do you trust the government to tell you the truth?
I've not said there is a conspiracy, you must have misread.
We don't know it's stopped, but none of the so called 'evidence' presented shows any proof. Sure, governments have shown that they cannot be trusted, but so have many other people in all walks of life, that doesn't mean that everyone is out to try and poison others or fill the atmosphere with chemicals. When proof is presented then fine I'll believe it, but so far, on all the 'evidence' I've been told to look at by friends and others, it's all scaremongering with no foundation, often just regurgitating the same old misinformation which only goes to show the people producing it don't know anything about the science behind vapour trails. The 'facts' presented are clearly false, so how can we 'trust' the people providing those videos, how do we know that they are not being put about by people just trying to scaremonger (in effect terrorize people) in order to try and bring down governments?
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EnergyIz - I can only hope you are right....for all our sakes.
Another thing you can consider Amy, is that if the governments wished to spray chemicals over the population, they would have to do it from much lower altitudes. The wind strength and speeds at high altitudes is significantly more than we experience on a day to day basis at ground level. A good example to look at is the Iclandic volcano ash a few years back (considered heavy particles, not just light chemical sprays) that was thrown so high that it travelled for thousands of miles before settling down, and there was no easy way to predict in which direction it was going to go. A government spraying chemicals at 30,000 feet over a populated area would be damn lucky to have any of it land in that area, or to have any idea where it was going to go... they'd have a better chance using crop sprayers at a few hundred feet, and even then the winds can gust and blow things astray.
If they really wanted to effect a population with some chemicals, they'd do better to just tamper with the water supply. :rolleyes:
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Walking antenna for what? Please explain.
There are numerous youtube videos of numerous scientific research on land and water samples to show the chemical "fallout".
There seem to be several things in the air now. But you will just have to do the research. The youtube videos are different; some are just conspiracy (well this is a conspiracy), some are very detailed gatherings of testimony from scientists and other highly educated and regarded farming and water specialists, some are lectures at conferences.
If you look at bioengineering, chemtrails and haarp (it will take a several hours) but you will get the whole picture. This can only be denied by people that have not done the research. This can only be denied by the people who are asleep. This can only be denied by people who are part of it.
Haarp is a big part of this. That's where the possibility of mind control comes in, being an antenna comes in. Cooling of the planet is nothing compared to the warfare and mind control aspects of haarp. Don't miss the video on patients. Here is where some of the information is hidden. The applications of a tool, machine or product is listed in their request for patient.
The reason I liked this particular video so much was it gave in depth information about a couple of new illnesses that have been not understood untill now...
From chemtrails to pseudo-life...just go to youtube and type it in.
I spent 2 days on youtube looking at these and it is not pleasant. If you don't want to know these things fine; but don't ridicule those who do. You will look very foolish in a few years when this is all revealed. The only thing for bad people to succeed is for good people to do nothing.
gulfcoastms - Thanks for your post. I'd be wary about the validity of youtube clips - although it is an easy medium to find out about subjects. It if often hard to deduce/appraise what is real. That's my problem with HAARP, which - of course -
I've heard of....hard to know where conspiracy and reality fit in there. How do you
get a truth barometer to such stuff? I have an open mind but thereagain a mind that
is too open becomes gullible - I am wary of this.
I understand what you are saying. Amateur videos are to be suspect. But if they are videos of scientists speaking at conferences that carries more weight. Copies of documentaries that were on tv and copies of radio programs that were aired set better with me.
In the kinds of situations where interviews are done for major publications and news programs and the employees involved are relocated and the segment or article never appears? What else is there but the internet. And I have to say something scary happened when I tried to look up some words on the wickadictionary and websters; they went blank when I put in certain words. I was able to look these words on open internet but these words were blocked from those 2 info sites.
When I go for information...I go for time. I look at the well produced, previously aired 1 hour or more type documentaries that are not shock value conspiracy oriented nut case type presentations. Videos of scientific conferences appeal to me the most. These are always an hour or more. I also like medical conferences.
gulfcoastms - thanks for sharing your helpful guidelines. I will bear them in mind. Yes I fully believe you when you had those odd encounters with your searches. I think governments are much more sinister/underhanded/secretive than most people suppose.
Terrible things have been done by my gov in my co. There is a history of Tuskegee. Black people in this town were allowed to suffer the effects of syphilis for medical information. This is as horrible as Nazi Germany. Ant biotics were available at the time but the free clinic was run by the gov and the "patients" were not given them. They were monitored untill they died.
It took many years for agent orange victims to be recognized. The same with the service members that were purposely exposed to atomic tests in the desert in the 50s and 60s. And Gulf war syndrome was denied. My gov has a history of conspiracy and cover up. Men with power don't always behave. This is why we MUST HAVE WOMEN IN GOVERNMENT!
Another example is the history of excito toxins (msg and aspartame). The terrible damage that they are doing to us and how they were allowed to become legal for additves to food. The employment histories and financial success of the people involved in getting this approval are shocking.
New theories about aids being caused by contamination of polio vacancies in Africa are blowing me away. If this can be proven??? OMG...Can you imagine the ramifications? We will know in 10 or 20 years if this is true. I saw a compilation of clips from very wealthy and powerful men saying we need to reduce the population. Are they doing something about it?
I know I sound insane. This 2 day journey into youtube has been terrifying to the point that I have to go back to sleep for a while. I can hardly stand this information. And what can "I" do about it? Tell 2 friends and you tell 2 friends and they tell 2 friends....
gulfcoastms - yes I am not surprised by what you say. Reminds me of the tongue in cheek joke "paranoia is seeing things as they really are!" - more than a modicum of truth in that.
Guess who produced agent orange? (You probably know) Why, Monsanto no less!
The multinational biotech company that are involved in GM foods (don't get me started). Monsanto have bought up leading bee research firms in US, following their pesticides being linked to depleting the bee population. So now they are in a prime position to cook the books. Insidious and very worrying. Anyway, this is getting off topic so will leave it here.
This is why we MUST HAVE WOMEN IN GOVERNMENT!
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I'm not sure that this would help. Women can be as power-crazed and as sure they know best for everyone as men can.
I'm not sure that this would help. Women can be as power-crazed and as sure they know best for everyone as men can.
Yes....one word - Thatcher!!! (Ducks for cover! :hidesbehindsofa: )