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(@steve111)
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I have had a very pain full groin my massage therapist told me with Imformed consent she would massage me there well I gave consent.
But as she was massaging me there she touched my scrotum several times should she have done this or not?


 
Posted : 24/01/2011 8:48 pm
myarka
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But as she was massaging me there she touched my scrotum several times should she have done this or not?

Almost certainly not, but your question was "Informed consent". What information did she give you about the treament? Was she qualified to treat a groin strain? If so, what she do to determine the cause?

Massage therapist should be professional at all times, that part you haven't really described.

But the bottom line, is if you believe her touching was inappropriate, then it was.

HTH,
Myarka


 
Posted : 24/01/2011 9:07 pm
 cola
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Unless you were holding things out of theway, there is the possibility of contact with such work if your therapist did not use constricting draping to keep things out of the way. It was most likely with the back of the hand. The request for you to give informed consent indicates she probably made you aware that there could be possible contact and you had the opportunity to say that you would not appreciate it, you also had the opportunity to say contact was being made during the treatment. You did not feel as if you were being fondled did you?

She should not have made such contact, but if you had the treatment wearing boxer shorts or no underpants, and not holding stuff out of the way, things may be closer to the area being worked on than intended.

Did you go to a sports massage therapist or a holistic massage practitioner or some other qualification?


 
Posted : 24/01/2011 10:27 pm
Reiki Pixie
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Is this a wind up?


 
Posted : 24/01/2011 11:00 pm
 cola
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most likely a wind up, but you can't be sure.


 
Posted : 25/01/2011 1:19 am
coolhandluke
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Surely it can't be the school holidays already:rolleyes:?


 
Posted : 25/01/2011 9:49 am
(@steve111)
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I had been to this therapist 10 or 12 times and had no bother but when I told her about the pain in my groin and then said she could help I thought it would just be the top of my groin but she went well down between my legs. I most admit the massage did releave a lot of the pain from down there but the back of her hand did rub up my scrotum


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 12:10 pm
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Hi Steve

Informed consent, equates to you being informed of what this or that procedure entails etc, you are then supposed to agree or disagree to what is offered, that is the way informed consent works.

In this instance you should have had the area and muscles explained so you could make up your mind before the procedure started, it sounds like the person who gave you the treatment knows what they are doing, unfortunately they did not explain this to you fully before getting your informed consent.

As some of the muscles are situated beneath your scrotum, then your bits are usually just moved out of the way (this should have been explained), if you want this problem sorting out, then unless you can remove your bits before the treatment starts and put them back on later, then they are in the way and need to be moved out of the way as much as possible, unfortunately males are not as tidy as females down there. 😉

Please look in an anatomy book at the muscular system, especially the ones which go around and through the groin which need working, you should have a more complete understanding of what needs working to effect a change.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 2:15 pm
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Thank you Paul for that. I some times do not listen that well so it could have been me at fault not her. If I let her massage that area again I think I will get some y front pants they will give her access to my groin and keep other things away from her I do not usually have any thing on just some big towels over me
Steve


 
Posted : 28/01/2011 8:23 am
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I have had groin and leg pain on and off for a long time I do have massages every 4 or 5 weeks but up untill reasently I never told her about the pain I got down there. Anyway after I told her she said she thought she could help as long as I consented to the treatment because it would involve her hands working on me in the genital area and that she would have to hold them to the side at times. She is a genuine therapist so I am sure it must be OK as long as you were imfored of it before hand


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 10:45 am
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I have had groin and leg pain on and off for a long time I do have massages every 4 or 5 weeks but up untill reasently I never told her about the pain I got down there. Anyway after I told her she said she thought she could help as long as I consented to the treatment because it would involve her hands working on me in the genital area and that she would have to hold them to the side at times. She is a genuine therapist so I am sure it must be OK as long as you were imfored of it before hand

If by the above you mean that she would hold your genitals to the side at times during the treatment then you have either misunderstood her or she is not proposing a very professional treatment!! I think what she meant is that she may require YOU to hold your genitals to the side - out of the way - whilst she works around your groin area.

Kitten


 
Posted : 26/02/2012 6:14 pm
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aarrhh well at least this post has an happy ending 😉


 
Posted : 27/02/2012 8:30 pm
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If by the above you mean that she would hold your genitals to the side at times during the treatment then you have either misunderstood her or she is not proposing a very professional treatment!! I think what she meant is that she may require YOU to hold your genitals to the side - out of the way - whilst she works around your groin area.

Kitten

Hi Kitten 34
Thanks for your reply I have been for the treatment this morning. Please do not think bad of this lady she is a genuine therapist I saw her this morning and she did the treatment I am a big man (22stone) and I am sure she new that I would strugle to get my hand down there and that is the reason she said and did push my bits to one side and hold them there untill her other hand had finnished it was not done in a sexual way at all she said if I like she would put a towel over them and hold them in it but I told her I was happy with out it


 
Posted : 28/02/2012 3:16 pm
derekgruender
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Hi Kitten 34
Thanks for your reply I have been for the treatment this morning. Please do not think bad of this lady she is a genuine therapist I saw her this morning and she did the treatment I am a big man (22stone) and I am sure she new that I would strugle to get my hand down there and that is the reason she said and did push my bits to one side and hold them there untill her other hand had finnished it was not done in a sexual way at all she said if I like she would put a towel over them and hold them in it but I told her I was happy with out it

Wish I hadn't read this straight after my tea! :002:


 
Posted : 28/02/2012 6:15 pm
(@sportstherapy)
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Call me old fashioned by that just sounds strange!


 
Posted : 28/02/2012 11:36 pm
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