Hi,
Having had a wonderful massage from a friend who has just qualified, I was surprised that she wanted me to be wrapped in a towel but not get on the table myself, she would instead help me get on the table.
I was surprised because when I trained 12/13 years ago we left the client to get onto the table themselves, get comfy under the towel and then come in and readjust the towel / add another one.
She explained its because of insurance purposes, you can't let the client get on or off the table themselves lest they fall off and injure themselves which makes sense. Only I wanted to avoid using towels, and instead work with sheets and it would be great if I could let the client get onto the table themselves and get comfy under the sheet before I come into the room.
What does everyone on here do?
Thanks.
Hi there
New one on me. But then I trained in medieval times 🙂
Golden raspberry to the first person to say "Health and Safety Gone Mad!" other than me obviously....
I sometimes hang around for those more fragile clients that I see, and help them on and off the couch, but other than that, most individuals just want to be left to their own devices - some even start to undress in the car park :dft002:
What a load of........ No - not going to crack!
I - some even start to undress in the car park :dft002:
What a load of........ No - not going to crack!
laugh!
I find the original post amusing but this line cracked me up.
Health and safety!
Hope they mature up and start trusting peoples' intelligence a bit. Treating people like dunces...to give them rules on silly matters is disrespectful to human intelligence.
Nosey so and so's
didn't crack up either! swearing quietly and calmly instead. haha!
Always good sense from Jnani and Jabba! Thing is where do we draw the line with possible insurance claims? If clients can't be trusted to get on the couch themselves then are we being negligent leaving them in the treatment room unsupervised? Should we be helping them undress safely? What happens if they trip over the towel/sheet?
Unless anyone can point to something in their insurance document that says any of the above are an essential part of what we do then I would have thought asking the client if they're ok to get undressed/on the couch and we're just outside if they need any help would have been acceptable professional practice.
When I first started working I had a frail elderly lady client on lots of medication. I asked her to check with her doctor that he was happy she was having gentle massage. His feedback was "she was fit enough to get on the couch so she was fit enough for a massage" - a pretty enlightened response for a doctor in those days.
I've had a couple of clients this morning, and made a point of asking them if they needed any help getting on to the couch ........... I live in deepest darkest Fife........ the answers were far from polite!
Also had the chance to think back on a course I did in the USA in 1991. It was reflexology. We spent 4 hours, one Saturday morning, learning how to 'drape' clients - heaven forbid you should accidentally glimpse 'flesh', other than the area that you were treating.!!!!! Then I thought about a massage I had when I lived in Belgium. I practically had my clothes removed for me (and was asked to remove everything) then told to lay face down on a very hard couch with paper cover (yeuch!) - admittedly the room was like a sauna, but no cover was offered throughout the treatment (prone and supine) which, I have to say, was one of the best massages I ever had.
Thanks for your responses everyone.
I'm relieved that I don't have to help my clients on and off the couch and I'm further relieved that ITEC insurance won't be expecting me to do this either! 😀
I will also feedback your responses to my friend as I'm sure she'd love to hear them.
Cheers,
Kirsty
I've had a couple of clients this morning, and made a point of asking them if they needed any help getting on to the couch ........... I live in deepest darkest Fife........ the answers were far from polite!
Also had the chance to think back on a course I did in the USA in 1991. It was reflexology. We spent 4 hours, one Saturday morning, learning how to 'drape' clients - heaven forbid you should accidentally glimpse 'flesh', other than the area that you were treating.!!!!! Then I thought about a massage I had when I lived in Belgium. I practically had my clothes removed for me (and was asked to remove everything) then told to lay face down on a very hard couch with paper cover (yeuch!) - admittedly the room was like a sauna, but no cover was offered throughout the treatment (prone and supine) which, I have to say, was one of the best massages I ever had.
I have to say I had a massage like that in Turkey too and it was divine. Not that I can imagine getting one like that in the UK 😮
Health and safety!
Hope they mature up and start trusting peoples' intelligence a bit.
Who is "they"?
If this is an insurance company demand, they don't care about safety - simply, "are you going to be sued"? If not - then who?
Who is "they"?
If this is an insurance company demand, they don't care about safety - simply, "are you going to be sued"? If not - then who?
You seriously asking me who is "they"? If yes. it is a daft one, if no, what are you saying exactly Crowan?
I say to clients to get on the table, I describe exactly how, and ask them to cover themselves like a sheet, otherwise we would waste 10 precious minutes of their nice massage unravelling them out of the towel. They usually get the picture.
how does she help clients on and off the table?
has she had lifting and moving training?
i could imagine some insurance not covering you if you were to injure yourself by helping a client
where do you stand if the client gets injured while being helped?
You seriously asking me who is "they"? If yes. it is a daft one, if no, what are you saying exactly Crowan?
Yes, I'm serious. I am very rarely not serious. It has become common to say "Health and Safety!" as if - in itself - it were an explanation. It isn't. So I asked what you meant.
Last time I had a massage (at a 5*luxury spa) I was left to get onto the table and get myself comfy under the towel. ..........
Anyone got any idea which insurance company may have stipulated this in it's policy???
Idiotic!